2024 Prospect Voting Results

[duewizard]

1. Jackson Chourio
   Undisputable. Franchise cornerstone for the next decade.
2. Jeferson Quero
   Nothing new. Love the hit tool. Love the glove. Waiting to see how he recovers from injury and how he does in Nashville. Ranked above Misio because I think Quero is a safer bet to be a solid major leaguer.
3. Jacob Misiorowski
   Misio has a higher ceiling than Quero, but the control is the question. We'll see what happens this season as they increase his innings. Hopefully the lab can help him get even below average control. Future TOR.
4. Tyler Black
   Great tools all around. Should be on a platoon at 3B by opening day at the very least. Nothing left to prove at the minor league level.
5. Robert Gasser
   Again, nothing left to prove. Consistent arm to solidify the middle of the rotation for years to come. Ranked higher than C-Rod because he is major league ready
6. Brock Wilken
   Another great hit tool, with great power. Future first baseman. Could be in the majors as early as this year, depending on how he does in Biloxi and Nashville.
7. Carlos F Rodriguez
   . I like C-Rod's ceiling better than Gasser's, but Robert is ready to go to the majors. C-Rod is still unproven in AAA. Shouldn't be too much of a challenge, and I expect him in Milwaukee by September.
8. Luis Lara
   I'm not as high as others are on him. I don't like the complete lack of power. An elite defender with what could be an elite hit tool. I think the future is too uncertain with him for me to rank him any higher.
9. DL Hall
   The stuff is amazing. He just can't get it under control. The reliever risk is too high. We'll see how he does with the pitching lab. Results late in the season are encouraging, so we shall see.
10. Cooper Pratt
    Love the tools and the idea of him. Now I need to see him perform in Carolina.
11. Joey Ortiz
    Nothing to prove in the minors and an elite glove. Can he perform in the big leagues?
12. Mike Boeve
    Strong profile but struggled in Appleton. Need to see how he'll adjust.
13. Eric Brown Jr
    I wasn't very high on him last year, but I think he is better than I gave him credit for. Great performance in the AFL, I do need to see more power develop.
14. Yophery Rodriguez
    Has done great in the DR. Need to see how he does stateside before ranking him higher.
15. Logan Henderson
    Ace in Carolina. Needs to face better competition closer to his age.
16. Josh Knoth
    Fantastic pure stuff. Unproven in the minors so ranked low. Need to see how he'll do.
17. Luke Adams
    Great all around. Needs better competition
18. Eric Bitonti
    Love the promise he shows. Waiting to see how he does at the pro level before ranking him any higher.
19. Wes Clarke
    Love the bat. I think he has a chance to make the OD roster. I honestly prefer him to Bauers.
20. Shane Smith
    Electric reliever. 60 innings and an ERA under 2? Sign me up. I think he can break camp in 2025.

Really solid and deep group. The Top 30 to 15 are really hard to rank. Guys like Ortiz or Boeve would have been #1 a few years ago. Exiting future. I rank based on tools but also performance. If your bat is allegedly plus-plus, you should show some results. Otherwise what good does that tool do?

Here are some other guys I like in no particular order.

Juan Baez, Demetrio Nadal, Patricio Aquino, Coleman Crow, Dylan O'Rae, Ryan Birchard, Bishop Letson, Daniel Guilarte, Edwin Jimenez, Bradley Blalock, Ryan Brady, Will Rudy, Satchell Norman, Melvin Hernandez, Eric Prado, Eniel Cortez, 

 

 

[brooks_quichenick]

1. Jackson Chourio
2. Jeferson Quero
3. Tyler Black
4. Jacob Misiorowski
5. Luis Lara
6. Brock Wilken
7. Robert Gasser
8. DL Hall
9. Carlos F Rodriguez
10. Joey Ortiz
11. Cooper Pratt
12. Mike Boeve
13. Logan Henderson
14. Eric Brown Jr
15. Luke Adams
16. Josh Knoth
17. Yophery Rodriguez
18. Eric Bitonti
19. Dylan O'Rae
20. Daniel Guilarte

[Brewers13]

1. Jackson Chourio
2. Jeferson Quero
3. Jacob Misiorowski
4. Tyler Black
5. Joey Ortiz
6. DL Hall
7. Robert Gasser
8. Brock Wilken
9. Cooper Pratt
10. Carlos F Rodriguez
11. Luis Lara
12. Mike Boeve
13. Yophery Rodriguez
14. Eric Brown Jr
15. Josh Knoth
16. Luke Adams
17. Logan Henderson
18. Eric Bitonti
19. Daniel Guilarte
20. Bradley Blalock

[docduany]

1. Jackson Chourio
2. Jeferson Quero
3. Jacob Misiorowski
4. Tyler Black
5. DL Hall
6. Robert Gasser
7. Brock Wilken
8. Joey Ortiz
9. Cooper Pratt
10. Carlos F Rodriguez
11. Luis Lara
12. Eric Brown Jr
13. Josh Knoth
14. Logan Henderson
15. Mike Boeve
16. Eric Bitonti
17. Luke Adams
18. Bradley Blalock
19. Wes Clarke
20. Coleman Crow

[Sugarrayray]

1. Jackson Chourio
2. Jeferson Quero
3. Jacob Misiorowski
4. Tyler Black
5. Robert Gasser
6. Carlos F Rodriguez
7. Brock Wilken
8. Luis Lara
9. Joey Ortiz
10. DL Hall
11. Yophery Rodriguez
12. Cooper Pratt
13. Josh Knoth
14. Eric Bitonti
15. Logan Henderson
16. Eric Brown Jr
17. Mike Boeve
18. Luke Adams
19. Daniel Guilarte
20. Dylan O'Rae

I love this farm system!!!!!

[cmow]

1. Jackson Chourio
2. Tyler Black
3. Jeferson Quero
4. Jacob Misiorowski
5. DL Hall
6. Joey Ortiz
7. Yophery Rodriguez
8. Robert Gasser
9. Brock Wilken
10. Carlos F Rodriguez
11. Cooper Pratt
12. Luis Lara
13. Mike Boeve
14. Luke Adams
15. Eric Brown Jr
16. Josh Knoth
17. Eric Bitonti
18. Logan Henderson
19. Ryan Birchard
20. Daniel Guilarte

[wiguy94]

1. Jackson Chourio
2. Jeferson Quero
3. Jacob Misiorowski
4. Tyler Black
5. Joey Ortiz
6. Robert Gasser
7. Brock Wilken
8. Carlos F Rodriguez
9. Luis Lara
10. Eric Brown Jr
11. Cooper Pratt
12. Luke Adams
13. Josh Knoth
14. Logan Henderson
15. Yophery Rodriguez
16. Daniel Guilarte
17. Mike Boeve
18. Eric Bitonti
19. Jadher Areinamo
20. Oliver Dunn

I didn't include DL Hall because he's not a prospect according to the MLB.  My top 30 is rounded out like this.

21. Dylan O'Rae (IF/OF)

22. Bradley Blalock (RHP)

23. Coleman Crow (RHP)

24. Wes Clarke (1B/DH)

25. Ryan Birchard (RHP)

26. Matthew Wood (C)

27. Alexander Cornielle (RHP)

28. Will Rudy (RHP)

29. Juan Baez (IF)

30. Patricio Aquino (RHP)

[Joseph Zarr]

1. Jackson Chourio
2. Jacob Misiorowski
3. Tyler Black
4. Jeferson Quero
5. Yophery Rodriguez
   I'm going big here. I just watched the DSL video. It is abundantly crystal clear the Crew expects Big Big things here.
6. Luis Lara
7. Brock Wilken
8. DL Hall
   Hall has nasty stuff. Get him in the Brewers Lab and I already think he's the best pitcher in the organization. Doesn't have the raw nasty of a Misiorowski but he's further along and could be filthy as well.
9. Robert Gasser
10. Cooper Pratt
11. Carlos F Rodriguez
12. Joey Ortiz
13. Mike Boeve
14. Eric Brown Jr
15. Josh Knoth
16. Luke Adams
17. Eric Bitonti
18. Logan Henderson
19. Patricio Aquino
20. Bradley Blalock

This system is absurdly deep 1-15. My goodness. We get past there and it just gets fascinating because there are so many intriguing players we simply need to see more of. With the new Academy in the D.R., we're cooking with gas folks.

[tbbc82]

1. Jackson Chourio
2. Joey Ortiz
3. Jeferson Quero
4. Tyler Black
5. Carlos F Rodriguez
6. Robert Gasser
7. DL Hall
8. Cooper Pratt
9. Jacob Misiorowski
10. Brock Wilken
11. Josh Knoth
12. Luke Adams
13. Mike Boeve
14. Eric Bitonti
15. Coleman Crow
16. Oliver Dunn
17. Wes Clarke
18. Eric Brown Jr
19. Logan Henderson
20. Dylan O'Rae

[Austin Tatious]

1. Jackson Chourio
2. Jacob Misiorowski
3. Jeferson Quero
4. Brock Wilken
5. Luis Lara
6. Tyler Black
7. DL Hall
8. Joey Ortiz
9. Robert Gasser
10. Cooper Pratt
11. Yophery Rodriguez
12. Carlos F Rodriguez
13. Eric Brown Jr
14. Luke Adams
15. Mike Boeve
16. Logan Henderson
17. Josh Knoth
18. Eric Bitonti
19. Juan Baez
20. Coleman Crow

[titletownking]

1. Jackson Chourio
2. Jacob Misiorowski
3. Jeferson Quero
4. Brock Wilken
5. Tyler Black
6. Robert Gasser
7. Joey Ortiz
8. Carlos F Rodriguez
9. DL Hall
10. Luis Lara
11. Cooper Pratt
12. Josh Knoth
13. Mike Boeve
14. Eric Brown Jr
15. Dylan O'Rae
16. Luke Adams
17. Eric Bitonti
18. Yophery Rodriguez
19. Logan Henderson
20. Daniel Guilarte

[Jose Cardenal]

1. Jackson Chourio
2. Jeferson Quero
3. Jacob Misiorowski
4. Tyler Black
5. Joey Ortiz
6. Robert Gasser
7. Brock Wilken
8. DL Hall
9. Carlos F Rodriguez
10. Luis Lara
11. Cooper Pratt
12. Mike Boeve
13. Yophery Rodriguez
14. Eric Brown Jr
15. Josh Knoth
16. Luke Adams
17. Eric Bitonti
18. Logan Henderson
19. Dylan O'Rae
20. Daniel Guilarte

[sveumrules]

Way to go to everybody who took the time to put together a list.

Breaking down the votes somewhat I'd say the tiers are essentially something like this...

BIG TIME STUD
Jackson Chourio (34 of 36 #1 Votes)

CONSENSUS TOP 50 TYPES
Jeferson Quero (33 of 36 #2 to #4 Votes)
Jacob Misiorowski (31 of 36 #2 to #4 Votes)
Tyler Black (29 of 36 #2 to #4 Votes)

TOP 100 OR JUST OUTSIDE OF IT TYPES
Brock Wilken (#4 High to #11 Low)
Robert Gasser (#4 High to #10 Low)
DL Hall (#3 High to #12 Low)
Joey Ortiz (#4 High to #15 Low)
Carlos Rodriguez (#4 High to #12 Low)
Luis Lara (#5 High to #19 Low)

HIGHER UPSIDE NEXT WAVE
Cooper Pratt (#7 High to #15 Low)
Eric Brown Jr (#8 High to UR Low)
Josh Knoth (#9 High to UR Low)
Yophery Rodriguez (#5 High to UR Low)

STILL PRETTY DANG EXCITING NEXT WAVE
Mike Boeve (#12 High to UR Low)
Luke Adams (#11 High to UR Low)
Eric Bitonti (#13 High to UR Low)
Logan Henderson (#10 High to UR Low)

Those 18 were all pretty much on the majority of the ballots submitted.

After that looks like Baez and Guilarte got the most votes among a group of guys like Wes Clarke, Shane Smith, Dylan O'Rae, Bradley Blalock, Coleman Crow, Ryan Birchard, Oliver Dunn, Jadher Areinamo, Patricio Aquino, Jorge Quintana and others who got a couple few votes each.

[sveumrules]

5 hours ago, clancyphile said:

• Melvin Hernandez
  Outlier performance in the DSL cant be ignored
• Enniel Cortez
  Performance was a massive outlier in 2023.
• Eric Prado
  Also a massive performance outlier

These are fun guys to keep an eye on no doubt given their encouraging DSL results at such young ages, but the main outlier for Hernandez and Prado is that their ERAs (2.06 and 1.54) are so much lower than their peripherals would imply (3.58 and 3.91 FIPs, respectively).

Cortez is easily the most exciting for me from a statistical standpoint since his 2.64 FIP is on a whole other level compared to the other two.

EC: 9.66 K9 | 0.99 BB9 | 9.80 K/BB | 0.20 HR9
MH: 7.71 K9 | 2.31 BB9 | 3.33 K/BB | 0.26 HR9
EP: 8.12 K9 | 3.07 BB9 | 2.64 K/BB | 0.44 HR9

Hopefully some of them make it over to Arizona this year so we can get further intel. As we've seen with guys like Edwin Jimenez, Stiven Cruz, Alexander Cornielle, and Alexander Vallecillo recently it's a long road from encouraging DSL results to replicating those outlier performances over larger samples against more advanced competition at the lower levels stateside.

[Harold Hutchison]

11 hours ago, sveumrules said:

These are fun guys to keep an eye on no doubt given their encouraging DSL results at such young ages, but the main outlier for Hernandez and Prado is that their ERAs (2.06 and 1.54) are so much lower than their peripherals would imply (3.58 and 3.91 FIPs, respectively).

Cortez is easily the most exciting for me from a statistical standpoint since his 2.64 FIP is on a whole other level compared to the other two.

EC: 9.66 K9 | 0.99 BB9 | 9.80 K/BB | 0.20 HR9
MH: 7.71 K9 | 2.31 BB9 | 3.33 K/BB | 0.26 HR9
EP: 8.12 K9 | 3.07 BB9 | 2.64 K/BB | 0.44 HR9

Hopefully some of them make it over to Arizona this year so we can get further intel. As we've seen with guys like Edwin Jimenez, Stiven Cruz, Alexander Cornielle, and Alexander Vallecillo recently it's a long road from encouraging DSL results to replicating those outlier performances over larger samples against more advanced competition at the lower levels stateside.

Cortez had sheer dominance. Five walks all season. Not in a start or a week, ALL SEASON. Plus he had more that a strikeout an inning. 

Prado... something's happened there. I can't see/know exactly what, but the guy just didn't give up a lot of hits - his 5.3 H/9IP was identical to Misiorowski - and his walk rate was about 40% lower. He didn't have the strikeouts, but he looks like he took the Adrian Houser/Colin Rea approach.

Hernandez's big outliers for me are his age (this was an age 16 season) and to a lesser extent, his control/command (1 HR, 9 BB all season). At 16, he's going to mature physically and won't be 5'11", 139 pounds. But he's already shown some very good/excellent things to me - particularly on the mental side of things. Not just in terms of not being intimidated, but also in knowing how to pitch and getting the most out of his stuff. And that stuff WILL go up a few ticks. He and Juan Baez are my big bets here (Yophery Rodriguez a little less so due to the crowded OF, but he could be a lefty Chourio with better strike zone judgement).

 

[sveumrules]

30 minutes ago, clancyphile said:

Cortez had sheer dominance. Five walks all season. Not in a start or a week, ALL SEASON. Plus he had more that a strikeout an inning. 

Prado... something's happened there. I can't see/know exactly what, but the guy just didn't give up a lot of hits - his 5.3 H/9IP was identical to Misiorowski - and his walk rate was about 40% lower. He didn't have the strikeouts, but he looks like he took the Adrian Houser/Colin Rea approach.

Hernandez's big outliers for me are his age (this was an age 16 season) and to a lesser extent, his control/command (1 HR, 9 BB all season). At 16, he's going to mature physically and won't be 5'11", 139 pounds. But he's already shown some very good/excellent things to me - particularly on the mental side of things. Not just in terms of not being intimidated, but also in knowing how to pitch and getting the most out of his stuff. And that stuff WILL go up a few ticks. He and Juan Baez are my big bets here (Yophery Rodriguez a little less so due to the crowded OF, but he could be a lefty Chourio with better strike zone judgement).

Right, Cortez had sheer dominance. If one were going to try to rationalize any of these three pitchers being ranked #3 on stats alone (because I'm pretty sure no one on this board has actually seen them pitch) he would be the one. Among 67 pitchers aged 16/17 in the DSL with at least 30 IP his 9.80 K/BB ranked 1st, his 0.99 BB/9 ranked 1st, his 2.64 FIP ranked 3rd, his 3.09 xFIP ranked 2nd. 

Hernandez is ten months younger, sure, but his meaningful indicators weren't nearly as impressive - 7.81 K9 vs 9.66 K9, 2.31 BB9 vs 0.99 BB9 - that's why his FIP came in almost a full run higher at 3.58. Still encouraging no doubt, but only 12th among those 67 DSL pitchers aged 16/17 to throw at least 30 IP. 

Comparing Prado to Misiorowski on raw stats is Apples to Filet Mignon. One put up his numbers in the DSL, the other in the Carolina, Midwest and Southern Leagues. This is multiple magnitudes of difference in competition level. Not to mention there exists video evidence of Misio being a mammoth human with ridiculous stuff. We literally know nothing about Prado (or any of these guys) besides what it says on a computer screen.

"I can't see/know exactly what", sums up our collective knowledge of these pitchers outside of their stat lines pretty well.

[CheeseheadInQC]

Yah, it is tough to know much stuff wise about the DSL pitchers. Honestly, despite him having repeated the level, based off just stats you could make a case for ranking Flores before those three just because of the combination of K rate and extreme ground ball tendencies.

[Joseph Zarr]

Personally, basing any judgments on the DSL players is a fool's errand. We don't know anything. We don't even know how accurately the scorecard was kept. Nothing. I think it's reasonable to present a case of:

"We likely need to keep an eye on this or these players given <insert statistical outlier here>..."

AND, do as I say...not as I do. I placed Yophery Rodriguez in my Top 10 because of how he was featured in a Brewers Dominican Academy hype video. Bahahahahah. 😅But, then again, I think you all know by now I don't invest a single ounce of truth in these rankings. I let their play on the field tell my eyes and guide me. Rodriguez could be a phenomenal talent. He might plateau stateside. Who knows?!?

All these young men are super talented. I think, to a man, we all just hope they fulfill the best versions of themselves. At least, that's all I really want for them.

 

 

[Matt]

**me before seeing the Dominican Academy video**

"I don't know...maybe #5 is too high for Yophery. I mean, what do I know, really?"

**me after seeing the Dominican Academy video**

"What is higher than #1 and can I vote again?"

[StearnsFTW]

I know voting is closed, but I wanted to make a list anyway.  Thanks for putting this together.

 

1. Jackson Chourio

2. Jeferson Quero

3.  Jacob Misiorowski

4.  Joey Ortiz

5.  Yophery Rodriguez

6. Tyler Black

7.  Brock Wilken

8.  Luis Lara

9.  D.L. Hall

10.  Cooper Pratt

11.  Robert Gasser

12.  Carlos Rodriguez

13.  Eric Bitonti

14.  Eric Brown, Jr.

15.  Bradley Blalock

16.  Josh Knoth

17.  Felippo Di Turri

18.  Logan Henderson

19.  Jadher Areinamo

20.  Luke Adams

[CheeseheadInQC]

1 hour ago, Joseph Zarr said:

Personally, basing any judgments on the DSL players is a fool's errand. We don't know anything. We don't know accurately the scorecard was kept. Nothing. I think it's reasonable to present a case of:

"We likely need to keep an eye on this or these players given <insert statistical outlier here>..."

AND, do as I say...not as I do. I placed Yophery Rodriguez in my Top 10 because of how he was featured in a Brewers Dominican Academy hype video. Bahahahahah. 😅But, then again, I think you all know by now I don't invest a single ounce of truth in these rankings. I let their play on the field tell my eyes and guide me. Rodriguez could be a phenomenal talent. He might plateau stateside. Who knows?!?

All these young men are super talented. I think, to a man, we all just hope they fulfill the best versions of themselves. At least, that's all I really want for them.

 

 

I feel like Rodriguez is high enough profile that we got scouting reports to back up the stats. We’ve at least gotten a snippet here or there on Di Turi and Ibarguen, too. Anything beyond that falls into the interesting sleeper category based on organizational signals and stat lines (find a player who didn’t strike out much who got a lot of playing time at a premium position).

[jay87shot]

I always struggle with the Latino 16/17 year old guys, after Gilbert Lara I kind of try and not rank guys in the top 10 until they have played in rookie ball or higher. However those of you putting Rodriguez 5,6,7,8 etc that is understandable because it at least appears that he has some Jackson Chourio type potential in him and I would be really surprised if he doesn't start the year in A-ball. I could easily see myself moving him into the top 5-6 with a solid month or so in the minor league season (and a few current prospects graduating).

[biedergb]

Yeah it’s the production vs potential debate in prospect analysis. If you love potential you rank Y. Rodriguez very high based upon his stats and pedigree (highly touted IFA) and just like Gilbert Lara and Larry Ernesto that is very fair to do. If you like production more then you rank guys like Clarke among others higher because of what they have done against higher level pitching.

It is easiest for guys like Chourio, Black and Quero when you have both. After that it’s your own scale.

Thats what makes this so cool - we see everyone else’s barometer for prospects.

[Jim Goulart]

 

[StearnsFTW]

Agree with the potential/production argument.  Slippery slope.  I had Rodriguez at 5 based on potential (obviously).

 

I would also like to point out that I've ranked Gilbert Lara and Hedbert Perez well within my top 5 in the past as well (but Chourio too).