Grading all Brewer trades (of Brewers on current active roster)

[adambr2]

Disclaimer: Just my personal opinions, others will disagree, this is all subjective, etc etc. 

 

 

S Tier trades

 

Esteury Ruiz for William Contreras and Joel Payamps

 

This one doesn't warrant much debate about where it should fall. It was an absolute homerun. 

 

Adam Lind for Freddy Peralta, Carlos Herrera, and Daniel Missaki

 

I'm not sure exactly where the careers of Herrera and Daniel Missaki went, and it makes no difference for the purposes of grading this trade. Getting a career of a starting pitcher the caliber of a Freddy Peralta for 1 year of a so-so first baseman is as good as it gets.

 

Lewis Brinson, Monte Harrison, Isan Diaz, and Jordan Yamamoto for Christian Yelich

 

This one is a bit more complex, taking into account that Yelich had a few down years after a couple years of MVP level play. However, this still falls into the S tier when you get two MVP level years of a prime player, and nothing that the Brewers gave up ended up being something sorely missed. 

 

Justin Chambers for Bryan Hudson

 

Hudson is crushing it for the Brewers pen and they have numerous years of bullpen control here. How can it not be S tier?

 

A Tier -

 

Josh Hader for Robert Gasser, Dinelson Lamet, Taylor Rogers, Esteury Ruiz

 

The only reason that I'm excluding this trade from the S tier is 1) because I'm grading the Ruiz trade on a standalone basis, and 2) The argument could be made that this trade hurt the Brewers in the pennant race that season. Still, on paper, getting years of Robert Gasser, along with a prospect on the tier of Ruiz for what was only going to be a 1.5 year rental of an expensive Hader, puts this at least on the A tier.

 

Hunter Renfroe for Janson Junk, Elvis Peguero, and Adam Seminaris

 

Renfroe is doing nothing for the Angels – without even knowing what we will get out of Junk, the value of Peguero alone in the bullpen has made this one worthwhile. This falls into the A tier only for having less value than some of the S tier trades above.

 

Corbin Burnes for DL Hall, Joey Ortiz, and 34th overall pick in 2024

 

Again, Ortiz, who looks like a budding star, makes this look like a potential great deal, without yet knowing what we'll get out of Hall and the 34th pick. I can't put it on the S tier, because Burnes is still a fantastic asset who would arguably have made us better this year. However, Ortiz has been too good to put it lower than A.

 

Taylor Floyd for Trevor Megill

 

The Twins got a minor league body, and the Brewers got a great arm for their pen and an interim closer. That'll do. 

 

Cash for Bryse Wilson

 

Bryse has been a pretty key swingman in the pen. Given what they gave up to acquire him, another great deal. 

 

 

B Tier 

 

Drew Rasmussen and JP Feyereisen for Willy Adames

 

This is probably one of the few trades that it is reasonable to argue that the Brewers took the loss on, although it would also be reasonable to argue that they didn't. Rasmussen was converted to a started by the Rays and flourished as one when healthy, but has still struggled with injuries. Feyereisen provided some good value before also succumbing to injuries. Adames has been up and down for the Brewers, but the highs have exceeded the lows. 

 

C Tier

 

Hendry Mendez and Robert Moore for Oliver Dunn

Mendez and Moore are somewhat intriguing but nothing to panic about losing at this point. Dunn has been a meh role player for the Brewers, but not useless. 

 

D Tier 

 

Brian Sanchez and Jace Avina for Jake Bauers

 

Sanchez and Avina both are having really fantastic minor league seasons. Though they're young lottery tickets and a long ways away from knowing if it'll ever translate to big league success, trading either for a journeyman like Bauers would be a large loss if either pans out. 

 

 

A few observations 

 

• This is not a very homegrown roster, it was mostly assembled by trade. That is not a criticism, just an observation. 
   
• Say what you want about the draft misses by this organization, but the trade results have been nothing short of fantastic. This is a very underrated front office. The homeruns are plentiful. The misses are few and at this point, minor. 
   
• The Brewers pitching lab might be one of their most valuable assets. Not a coincidence that most of the hits involve pitching, and the success of this lab extends beyond just trade acquisitions, as we see with guys like Colin Rea.
   

[wiguy94]

B-Tier is too low for the Adames trade. Adames has put up 13.2 fWAR since that trade which is 22nd most among position players in that time. Rasmussen and Feyereisen have put up 6.8 fWAR since that trade. Adames remains highly underrated by this fanbase and that's just his on the field value not even factoring in what he means in the clubhouse.

[CheeseheadInQC]

6 minutes ago, wiguy94 said:

B-Tier is too low for the Adames trade. Adames has put up 13.2 fWAR since that trade which is 22nd most among position players in that time. Rasmussen and Feyereisen have put up 6.8 fWAR since that trade. Adames remains highly underrated by this fanbase and that's just his on the field value not even factoring in what he means in the clubhouse.

Adames also stabilized a position the Brewers had often struggled with. From 2010-2020 they had as many seasons dead last in shortstop fWAR as they had in the top 20 (4 each).

[wiguy94]

1 minute ago, CheeseheadInQC said:

Adames also stabilized a position the Brewers had often struggled with. From 2010-2020 they had as many seasons dead last in shortstop fWAR as they had in the top 20 (4 each).

And we traded from an area of extreme depth in SP and RP. Rasmussen in general was an extreme injury risk, so the fact he had a major injury after leaving is not at all surprising.

[KeithStone53151]

Your criteria ignores some of the biggest misses, such as trading Reese Olson for Daniel Norris. I don't want to take too much from what you've pulled together, I just don't think it's fair to say their misses are few and minor as your criteria doesn't really touch on the misses. Any bad trades wouldn't involve a player on the roster, so the criteria is structurally designed to ignore the bad ones.

[ClosetBrewerFan]

You failed to include Justin Yeager in the Ruiz trade. Shame.  He might be the best of the three we received.

[sveumrules]

4 minutes ago, KeithStone53151 said:

Your criteria ignores some of the biggest misses, such as trading Reese Olson for Daniel Norris. I don't want to take too much from what you've pulled together, I just don't think it's fair to say their misses are few and minor as your criteria doesn't really touch on the misses. Any bad trades wouldn't involve a player on the roster, so the criteria is structurally designed to ignore the bad ones.

Yeah, Reese Olson and David Fry would look great on this team right now. Might have a ten game division lead already.

Good thing the guy that traded them away works in New York now.

[Outlander]

The Yelich trade isn't complex, no doubt one of the best Brewers trades ever, the Marlins received negative in return. Even if you don't  agree with the extension, it wasn't  part of the trade. 

Also, agree with the point that limiting it to active players by nature is going to exclude bad trades. Even though the Brewers are in first I think most would like some better starting pitching so that Norris trade will continue to sting.

 

[KeithStone53151]

4 minutes ago, Outlander said:

The Yelich trade isn't complex, no doubt one of the best Brewers trades ever, the Marlins received negative in return. Even if you don't  agree with the extension, it wasn't  part of the trade. 

Also, agree with the point that limiting it to active players by nature is going to exclude bad trades. Even though the Brewers are in first I think most would like some better starting pitching so that Norris trade will continue to sting.

 

With the yelich trade, you also have to ignore the extension in my opinion. The contract he was under we got crazy crazy value. The extension and subsequent injury and poor performance weren't really related to the trade

[sveumrules]

How “bad” the Yelich extension has been is often quite overstated to begin with.

His worst year (2021) was the last year of the original Marlins extension, so he only got $14M for that 1.4 WAR.

The big money ($26M) kicked in for 2022 when he put up 2.1 WAR.

Last year that $26M bought 3.8 WAR, this year Yelich is on pace for something like 6-7 WAR.

Since the second extension kicked in Yelich has notched 7.6 WAR for about $61.5M, or $8.1M per win.

If he stays healthy and keeps pace it will be closer to $7.5M per win by the end of the season for the first three years of the extension.

Average returns for players at the top of the pay scale is closer to $10M per win, so Yelich is on the right side of the ledger.

All the fears about his albatross contract holding back the Brewers from being competitive have yet to come to fruition.

[CheezWizHed]

12 hours ago, KeithStone53151 said:

Your criteria ignores some of the biggest misses, such as trading Reese Olson for Daniel Norris. I don't want to take too much from what you've pulled together, I just don't think it's fair to say their misses are few and minor as your criteria doesn't really touch on the misses. Any bad trades wouldn't involve a player on the roster, so the criteria is structurally designed to ignore the bad ones.

I think he was mostly focused on the roster generation for this year.  Yes, Olson could be a SP option for the Brewers right now, but I don't think a missed trade in 2021 was the point of what he was doing.  Maybe if the trade was meant for this year... 

15 minutes ago, sveumrules said:

How “bad” the Yelich extension has been is often quite overstated to begin with.

His worst year (2021) was the last year of the original Marlins extension, so he only got $14M for that 1.4 WAR.

The big money ($26M) kicked in for 2022 when he put up 2.1 WAR.

Last year that $26M bought 3.8 WAR, this year Yelich is on pace for something like 6-7 WAR.

Since the second extension kicked in Yelich has notched 7.6 WAR for about $61.5M, or $8.1M per win.

If he stays healthy and keeps pace it will be closer to $7.5M per win by the end of the season for the first three years of the extension.

Average returns for players at the top of the pay scale is closer to $10M per win, so Yelich is on the right side of the ledger.

All the fears about his albatross contract holding back the Brewers from being competitive have yet to come to fruition.

I keep holding my breath that his back will catch up with him again.  Hopefully he remains healthy.  He was clearly not the same hitter a couple of years ago.  If he was healthy no one would have an issue, but chronic back issues are nothing to sneeze at. 

[SF70]

15 hours ago, adambr2 said:

Disclaimer: Just my personal opinions, others will disagree, this is all subjective, etc etc. 

 

 

S Tier trades

 

Esteury Ruiz for William Contreras and Joel Payamps

 

This one doesn't warrant much debate about where it should fall. It was an absolute homerun. 

 

Adam Lind for Freddy Peralta, Carlos Herrera, and Daniel Missaki

 

I'm not sure exactly where the careers of Herrera and Daniel Missaki went, and it makes no difference for the purposes of grading this trade. Getting a career of a starting pitcher the caliber of a Freddy Peralta for 1 year of a so-so first baseman is as good as it gets.

 

Lewis Brinson, Monte Harrison, Isan Diaz, and Jordan Yamamoto for Christian Yelich

 

This one is a bit more complex, taking into account that Yelich had a few down years after a couple years of MVP level play. However, this still falls into the S tier when you get two MVP level years of a prime player, and nothing that the Brewers gave up ended up being something sorely missed. 

 

Justin Chambers for Bryan Hudson

 

Hudson is crushing it for the Brewers pen and they have numerous years of bullpen control here. How can it not be S tier?

 

A Tier -

 

Josh Hader for Robert Gasser, Dinelson Lamet, Taylor Rogers, Esteury Ruiz

 

The only reason that I'm excluding this trade from the S tier is 1) because I'm grading the Ruiz trade on a standalone basis, and 2) The argument could be made that this trade hurt the Brewers in the pennant race that season. Still, on paper, getting years of Robert Gasser, along with a prospect on the tier of Ruiz for what was only going to be a 1.5 year rental of an expensive Hader, puts this at least on the A tier.

 

Hunter Renfroe for Janson Junk, Elvis Peguero, and Adam Seminaris

 

Renfroe is doing nothing for the Angels – without even knowing what we will get out of Junk, the value of Peguero alone in the bullpen has made this one worthwhile. This falls into the A tier only for having less value than some of the S tier trades above.

 

Corbin Burnes for DL Hall, Joey Ortiz, and 34th overall pick in 2024

 

Again, Ortiz, who looks like a budding star, makes this look like a potential great deal, without yet knowing what we'll get out of Hall and the 34th pick. I can't put it on the S tier, because Burnes is still a fantastic asset who would arguably have made us better this year. However, Ortiz has been too good to put it lower than A.

 

Taylor Floyd for Trevor Megill

 

The Twins got a minor league body, and the Brewers got a great arm for their pen and an interim closer. That'll do. 

 

Cash for Bryse Wilson

 

Bryse has been a pretty key swingman in the pen. Given what they gave up to acquire him, another great deal. 

 

 

B Tier 

 

Drew Rasmussen and JP Feyereisen for Willy Adames

 

This is probably one of the few trades that it is reasonable to argue that the Brewers took the loss on, although it would also be reasonable to argue that they didn't. Rasmussen was converted to a started by the Rays and flourished as one when healthy, but has still struggled with injuries. Feyereisen provided some good value before also succumbing to injuries. Adames has been up and down for the Brewers, but the highs have exceeded the lows. 

 

C Tier

 

Hendry Mendez and Robert Moore for Oliver Dunn

Mendez and Moore are somewhat intriguing but nothing to panic about losing at this point. Dunn has been a meh role player for the Brewers, but not useless. 

 

D Tier 

 

Brian Sanchez and Jace Avina for Jake Bauers

 

Sanchez and Avina both are having really fantastic minor league seasons. Though they're young lottery tickets and a long ways away from knowing if it'll ever translate to big league success, trading either for a journeyman like Bauers would be a large loss if either pans out. 

 

 

A few observations 

 

• This is not a very homegrown roster, it was mostly assembled by trade. That is not a criticism, just an observation. 
   
• Say what you want about the draft misses by this organization, but the trade results have been nothing short of fantastic. This is a very underrated front office. The homeruns are plentiful. The misses are few and at this point, minor. 
   
• The Brewers pitching lab might be one of their most valuable assets. Not a coincidence that most of the hits involve pitching, and the success of this lab extends beyond just trade acquisitions, as we see with guys like Colin Rea.
   

This team has the most underrated FO in baseball, and it’s not close.

I’ve yet to see MKE rank inside the top 10 of FO’s from any rankings I’ve seen, which is ridiculous when one considers what they’ve accomplished in totality the last 8+ years.

Consistently winning while simultaneously rebuilding/building-up their infrastructure — without a tank (Baltimore), or major sell-off should automatically put them in the conversation for best small-market FO’s with Tampa & Cleveland.

And that was before Stearns left for NY with Arnold taking the baton and improving the organization even more so.

[Brian]

On MLB Network: They said Brewers traded away Cy Young winner Corbin Burns, lost there all star closer Williams, lost starters Woodruff and Miley, lost there manager and have the largest lead in the MLB, 7 games. Pat Murphy deserves a lot of credit also for guiding the team to the NL central lead amid all the injuries. 

[Underachiever]

12 hours ago, KeithStone53151 said:

 Any bad trades wouldn't involve a player on the roster, so the criteria is structurally designed to ignore the bad ones.

That's not true. If Drew Rasmussen had won a Cy Young with the Rays, Adames would still be on the Brewers roster, and the trade would be seen differently. I think that the lack of success of the players that the Brewers traded away is part of the grades of these trades. Yelich, Peralta, all were traded for the eventual WAR equivalent of a bag of balls, and they would also still be on the team if the players traded away had some success. 

[Outlander]

It is true, if Drew Rasmussen was a Cy Young winner it still wouldn't be a bad trade. Bad players don't stick. Yelich and Peralta were bad trades for the Marlins and Mariners but wouldn't be listed as a bad trade. Reese Olson would be a great player to have on the roster so makes no sense to ignore that.

[gregmag]

17 hours ago, KeithStone53151 said:

Your criteria ignores some of the biggest misses, such as trading Reese Olson for Daniel Norris. I don't want to take too much from what you've pulled together, I just don't think it's fair to say their misses are few and minor as your criteria doesn't really touch on the misses. Any bad trades wouldn't involve a player on the roster, so the criteria is structurally designed to ignore the bad ones.

What other "biggest misses" are you thinking of?  You suggest that Olson for Norris is representative ("such as") of other, equally bad trades.  You criticize the OP for being selective.  What's your full, non-selective argument?

Off the top of my head, the worst recent trades I can think of after Olson-Norris are Richards and Francis for Tellez, Strzlecki for Chafin, Kelly and Mathias for Bush, and Toro for Patrick.  None of those is consequential, let alone anywhere near as bad as Olson-Norris.  Patrick may still help us.

I think it's also misleading to suggest that the OP's approach mainly excludes bad trades.  I don't think it excludes any great ones.  But it excludes the very helpful deadline deals for Canha and Santana.  In addition, Taylor / Houser looks like addition by subtraction even if we get nothing out of Coleman Crow.  Same for Urias for Blalock, who is looking pretty good.  Alex Jackson for McKendry won't sting and could still help.

I'm not sure your point boils down to anything more than "count the Olson deal as a substantial negative," which is entirely fair.  But I can't immediately think of anything else that would change the OP's bottom line.

[wiguy94]

1 minute ago, gregmag said:

What other "biggest misses" are you thinking of?  You suggest that Olson for Norris is representative ("such as") of other, equally bad trades.  You criticize the OP for being selective.  What's your full, non-selective argument?

Off the top of my head, the worst recent trades I can think of after Olson-Norris are Richards and Francis for Tellez, Strzlecki for Chafin, Kelly and Mathias for Bush, and Toro for Patrick.  None of those is consequential, let alone anywhere near as bad as Olson-Norris.  Patrick may still help us.

I think it's also misleading to suggest that the OP's approach mainly excludes bad trades.  I don't think it excludes any great ones.  But it excludes the very helpful deadline deals for Canha and Santana.  In addition, Taylor / Houser looks like addition by subtraction even if we get nothing out of Coleman Crow.  Same for Urias for Blalock, who is looking pretty good.  Alex Jackson for McKendry won't sting and could still help.

I'm not sure your point boils down to anything more than "count the Olson deal as a substantial negative," which is entirely fair.  But I can't immediately think of anything else that would do much to change the OP's bottom line.

Fry for Mejia is looking pretty terrible right now. Olson and Fry trades definitely looking like the 2 worst of the Stearns era.

[KeithStone53151]

26 minutes ago, gregmag said:

What other "biggest misses" are you thinking of?  You suggest that Olson for Norris is representative ("such as") of other, equally bad trades.  You criticize the OP for being selective.  What's your full, non-selective argument?

Off the top of my head, the worst recent trades I can think of after Olson-Norris are Richards and Francis for Tellez, Strzlecki for Chafin, Kelly and Mathias for Bush, and Toro for Patrick.  None of those is consequential, let alone anywhere near as bad as Olson-Norris.  Patrick may still help us.

I think it's also misleading to suggest that the OP's approach mainly excludes bad trades.  I don't think it excludes any great ones.  But it excludes the very helpful deadline deals for Canha and Santana.  In addition, Taylor / Houser looks like addition by subtraction even if we get nothing out of Coleman Crow.  Same for Urias for Blalock, who is looking pretty good.  Alex Jackson for McKendry won't sting and could still help.

I'm not sure your point boils down to anything more than "count the Olson deal as a substantial negative," which is entirely fair.  But I can't immediately think of anything else that would change the OP's bottom line.

Well, ignoring some misses doesn't really change that the Brewers over the last 20 years have won a heck of a lot more trades than they've lost. It's frankly not even close, I never intended to imply he's being selective and the Brewers actually suck at trading. But we did miss some. I just wanted to point out that how he set up his criteria, of only selecting players on the current roster and how they were acquired, ignores instances like the Olson/Norris trade. You can also add in David Fry.

Someone else brought up adames/rasmussen. If adames was trash, he'd be gone by now....and that trade wouldn't be listed above. If Adames is what he is currently, but rasmussen was a cy young, that trade would probably grade a C or so. 

I also specifically said I wasn't trying to take too much away from what he pulled together. It acted as a "how we constructed our roster and how good those trades were". It was a simply observation.

[adambr2]

18 hours ago, KeithStone53151 said:

Your criteria ignores some of the biggest misses, such as trading Reese Olson for Daniel Norris. I don't want to take too much from what you've pulled together, I just don't think it's fair to say their misses are few and minor as your criteria doesn't really touch on the misses. Any bad trades wouldn't involve a player on the roster, so the criteria is structurally designed to ignore the bad ones.

Well, not always -- just because you "lose" a trade doesn't necessarily mean that the player you acquired is so bad that they don't belong on an MLB roster. 

Reese was obviously a big miss though, so I do get your larger point. I understand it's not a perfect evaluation or process, just more of a big picture look into how this team was assembled. My post was lengthy and long-winded enough so I had to draw the line somewhere as it would have been unreadable if I had tried to include every single trade over the last X number of years. 

[Brian]

All the milb teams starting to get active. 

https://www.milb.com/roster/transactions

[biedergb]

Re: the trades. I was starting to do a write up like this of the 2017 era on. When the brewers accelerated the rebuild by being competitive in 2017 a year or two ahead of the plan.

I am traveling now, but off the top of my head, Grisham for Urias/Lauer was a bad trade because of the years Grisham has had since 2020. Lauer had an amazing season split over 2 seasons, and Urias had a great 2021 - and yet to see if Blalock becomes anything.  Close but a loss.  Kelly for Bush was a disaster, and Kelly has not made a MLB debut so time will tell, but Bush was such a negative. Same for Peters for Rosenthal, who amounted to nothing and Peters is hitting. Fry and Olson were just big time misses. Those will happen, and Adames was a win. But the Tellez trade was a wash.

Re: Yelich extension.  His extension looming in 2022 may have hampered deals in 2021 to get the team some offensive help in ‘21 and ‘22. His rebound last year and hopefully this year make it easier to take.  But that looming contract with down years did hurt the chances of playoff success in ‘21, and along with the Hader trade helped submarine the ‘22 season in my opinion.

[adambr2]

The Grisham/Davies for Urias/Lauer ended up being completely immaterial. Both sides at various points had reason to say they won it, and though I don't know how the "WAR" comparisons look on it, looking back I'd say nobody did. It's just a total wash to me. 

[Jopal78]

Getting the better end of trades over the last couple of years offsets how miserable the Brewers have been in free agency.

At least 16 million for Hoskins who has been slightly better than replacement level.

8.5 million for Wade Miley had issues staying healthy not been able to the last 3-5 years. 

Gary Sanchez doesn’t have an every day position that is making $4 million for a 0.1 bWAR.

To tie into your trade comments, the JBJ signing was so bad they had to give up quality prospects just to move his contract for Renfroe.

The Kolten Wong signing didn’t work out; he was traded in a cost-cutting deal for Jesse Winker who gave the Brewers absolutely nothing.

The Lorenzo Cain signing also was a disaster another player seemingly always with nagging injuries which eroded his skills and lead  Brewers to eat millions of dollars when they designated him for assignment.

 

So I think it’s safe to say theyre astute when it comes to making trades and the opposite in free agency 

[sveumrules]

34 minutes ago, Jopal78 said:

Getting the better end of trades over the last couple of years offsets how miserable the Brewers have been in free agency.

At least 16 million for Hoskins who has been slightly better than replacement level.

8.5 million for Wade Miley had issues staying healthy not been able to the last 3-5 years. 

Gary Sanchez doesn’t have an every day position that is making $4 million for a 0.1 bWAR.

To tie into your trade comments, the JBJ signing was so bad they had to give up quality prospects just to move his contract for Renfroe.

The Kolten Wong signing didn’t work out; he was traded in a cost-cutting deal for Jesse Winker who gave the Brewers absolutely nothing.

The Lorenzo Cain signing also was a disaster another player seemingly always with nagging injuries which eroded his skills and lead  Brewers to eat millions of dollars when they designated him for assignment.

 

So I think it’s safe to say theyre astute when it comes to making trades and the opposite in free agency 

Hoskins has a 128 wRC+. Sure his 0.3 WAR is held back by being a slow DH/1B, but the Brewers are getting what they paid for in the box and I’d imagine they’d gladly pay him $18M next year if he finishes the year out healthy and hitting like he has.

Miley is a sunk cost this year, yes, but in 2018/23 they got 5.5 rWAR for a total of $7M so I think they still came out pretty far ahead in the aggregate.

Sanchez has been underwhelming as. DH, but in his 49 PA as a backup catcher he has a 142 wRC+ and he’s also posted a 167 wRC+ in his nine pinch hit PAs. He’s being paid like a bench player and has performed in that capacity.

Wong turned in 4.9 fWAR | 6.4 bWAR for $18M before being dealt, that was an excellent value signing.

Lorenzo pretty much earned his whole contract in 2018, but even with the down years at the end came in at 8.5 fWAR | 13.8 bWAR for $64 million after opting out in 2020 so that deal was still even money at worst.

[Jopal78]

17 minutes ago, sveumrules said:

Hoskins has a 128 wRC+. Sure his 0.3 WAR is held back by being a slow DH/1B, but the Brewers are getting what they paid for in the box and I’d imagine they’d gladly pay him $18M next year if he finishes the year out healthy and hitting like he has.

Miley is a sunk cost this year, yes, but in 2018/23 they got 5.5 rWAR for a total of $7M so I think they still came out pretty far ahead in the aggregate.

Sanchez has been underwhelming as. DH, but in his 49 PA as a backup catcher he has a 142 wRC+ and he’s also posted a 167 wRC+ in his nine pinch hit PAs. He’s being paid like a bench player and has performed in that capacity.

Wong turned in 4.9 fWAR | 6.4 bWAR for $18M before being dealt, that was an excellent value signing.

Lorenzo pretty much earned his whole contract in 2018, but even with the down years at the end came in at 8.5 fWAR | 13.8 bWAR for $64 million after opting out in 2020 so that deal was still even money at worst.

I figured you’d say that. Theres a metric to make any point one wants to make. 

Brewers are spending 28.5 million this year on  Hoskins, Sanchez and Miley. Hoskins hits homeruns is league average at getting on base but can’t run and is below average in everything else. Sanchez hits homeruns and  is below average everywhere else. Miley wasnt healthy when camp opened. Poor production for their 28.5 million dollars any way you cut it.