Trade deadline day thread

[SRB]

4 minutes ago, ClosetBrewerFan said:

I can buy this argument. But that definitely supports the Brewers being cheap.  So they had no room in the payroll at all?  We are only talking about few million increase.  What about all the sellouts they have had recently, particularly the weekday Miz starts.  We are not investing that into this roster?

I clearly overvalued Cortes.  I hope I am underselling lockridge.

It's not purely salary. There are also roster considerations. You can't just keep Cortes at AAA forever, and if they like all of the current starters better than him, there's nowhere for him to go. (I personally think it was worth getting rid of Quintana to see if Cortes is healthy, but no matter.)

[Bulldogboy]

Just now, snoogans8056 said:

Quinn Priester is better than anyone traded today.

So

[duewizard]

3 minutes ago, Jim French Stepstool said:

Can Peguero & Hudson be dealt from DFA limbo, since they aren't on the ML roster? I thought there was a rule to that effect (perhaps the 40-man plays into it).

That changed in 2019. There used to be a waiver deadline at the end of August but it got removed

[ClosetBrewerFan]

Just now, SRB said:

It's not purely salary. There are also roster considerations. You can't just keep Cortes at AAA forever, and if they like all of the current starters better than him, there's nowhere for him to go. (I personally think it was worth getting rid of Quintana to see if Cortes is healthy, but no matter.)

They could have just waived him.  Someone may have claimed him.  But he apparently had negative value.  

[Jim French Stepstool]

2 minutes ago, Bulldogboy said:

Exactly. The only way you could afford Miller was to sell Cortez. That's brutal 

Or you could sell Cortes (who it appears had little interest from others) and, by doing that, get Miller w/o having to spend more. It doesn't necessarily mean that was the only way to acquire Miller. But doing it in the most efficient manner possible is important.

[Jim French Stepstool]

1 minute ago, duewizard said:

That changed in 2019. There used to be a waiver deadline at the end of August but it got removed

Thanks!!!

[SRB]

Just now, ClosetBrewerFan said:

They could have just waived him.  Someone may have claimed him.  But he apparently had negative value.  

Not necessarily. Even if you assume Cortes has 0 value, then we traded J Quintana for Lockridge.

[Playing Catch]

3 minutes ago, Jim French Stepstool said:

But doing it in the most efficient manner possible is important.

This is an astute observation. If Arnold was being "opportunistic," and there wasn't time to vet prospect opinions, it was one way to do things quickly, against the deadline.

[duewizard]

33 minutes ago, markedman5 said:

 

I have no idea waht happened to Hudson. Fell off completely

Sad to see Elvis done because he was a good soldier for a while but unfortunately he was squeezed out. We did win the Renfroe trade though!

[Devinep]

9 minutes ago, SRB said:

It's not purely salary. There are also roster considerations. You can't just keep Cortes at AAA forever, and if they like all of the current starters better than him, there's nowhere for him to go. (I personally think it was worth getting rid of Quintana to see if Cortes is healthy, but no matter.)

Bullpen. Especially with Miz getting short starts 

[Playing Catch]

I think that one of the reasons today's deadline felt a little chaotic around the league was simply because the wild-card era really makes it hard for teams to determine where they're at, in terms of buyers/sellers/otherwise until perhaps the last few days. Being able to be nimble in that market is probably a sign of a competent organization. There's a lot of inter-departmental communication that has to be on the same page to make moves like the Brewers did today.

[da swedish german]

1 hour ago, wallus said:

But that was them going for it....

post of the year nominee? 

[karl]

3 hours ago, Sixtolezcano said:

Hmmm, OK

the fringe moves the cubs made could very easily push them ahead of us,

[Frisbee Slider]

1 minute ago, karl said:

the fringe moves the cubs made could very easily push them ahead of us,

I’m not sure Kittredge or Soroka strike fear in many people. Taylor Rogers FIP and WHIP are underwhelming. You stack them on top of Willi Castro and you maybe got one win improvement.

[wibadgers23]

I like the trade for Miller but other than that, it was a pretty miserable day.  Probably one of the more frustrating trade deadline days that I can remember.  And just to add insult to injury, it looks like we're losing Chourio for a bit.

[MilwaukeeBeers]

42 minutes ago, snoogans8056 said:

Quinn Priester is better than anyone traded today.

That's not how any of this works and no not really. 

[brewmann04]

What a dissatisfying day today but hopefully these guys will continue to scrap 

[Simba2020]

1 hour ago, MilwaukeeBeers said:

I truly believe the fans on Real GM myself included would draft better than the Milwaukee Bucks have the past decade. 

So would a blind squirrel. 

[Matt]

Had no idea so many people would lose their minds over losing out on Amed Rosario and Willi Castro. 

[folly412]

2 hours ago, MilwaukeeBeers said:

I truly believe the fans on Real GM myself included would draft better than the Milwaukee Bucks have the past decade. 

Actually having draft picks would make that easy enough.  When's their next first rounder, like 2032?

[BrewLongma34]

Go walk off a short plank Arnold.  

[ClosetBrewerFan]

The Cubs gave up two pitchers for Willi Castro.  Ryan Gallagher and Sam Armstrong both in AA and are fast movers. Ryan drafted last year and Sam in 2023.  I know very little about them but looking at the stats it feels like Brewer comparables would be Hardin and Hunt.  That's a lot to give up for a couple months of Willi Castro.  Not sure I would do that.

[Frisbee Slider]

10 minutes ago, ClosetBrewerFan said:

The Cubs gave up two pitchers for Willi Castro.  Ryan Gallagher and Sam Armstrong both in AA and are fast movers.

Gallagher was 6th round pick last year. 1.59 ERA after two starts in AA. 22 years old

Armstrong 13th round pick in 2023. 4.62 ERA in AA. 24 years old

Gallagher seems useful. Armstrong 🤷‍♂️

[ClosetBrewerFan]

2 minutes ago, Frisbee Slider said:

Gallagher was 6th round pick last year. 1.59 ERA after two starts in AA. 22 years old

Armstrong 13th round pick in 2023. 4.62 ERA in AA. 24 years old

Gallagher seems useful. Armstrong 🤷‍♂️

KC Hunt is a UDFA from 2023 that is 24 year old in AA with a 4.80 ERA.  People here still seem high on him.

I really wanted Castro but I would not give up Hardin and Hunt for him (assuming my comp is reasonable)

[adambr2]

I’m not going to get too worked up over today but we’ve got to stop comparing every other move to Quinn Priester. We acquired Quinn Priester on April 7th. He has been with this team essentially the entire season. He is not “help” we acquired at the deadline. He has nothing to do with anyone else’s reinforcements that they acquired today for the rest of the season.

If you want to cite Andrew Vaughn, fine. Quinn Priester was closer to an offseason acquisition than a midseason acquisition. He was a nice pickup. In April. We move on.