Trade deadline day thread

[markedman5]

Trade deadline winner Seattle Mariners update…….

 

[Frisbee Slider]

6 hours ago, markedman5 said:

Trade deadline winner Seattle Mariners update…….

At least they had the courage to ‘go for it’

[sveumrules]

Brewers 23 W - 11 L record since August 1st is still the best in MLB.

[Underachiever]

9 hours ago, sveumrules said:

Brewers 23 W - 11 L record since August 1st is still the best in MLB.

Come on Sveum. If you take out the winning streak, they are below .500!!!!!!!!!

[tmwiese55]

15 hours ago, Frisbee Slider said:

At least they had the courage to ‘go for it’

Ha, right.      On paper, I'd probably say Sea has the best team in the AL. So tough to put it on management too much.   But more or less, they're in the same spot they were before the moves and with the same % at a WS. While I'd think putting a dent in their farm for two guys who'll be gone at end of year

[BrewerFan]

On 8/4/2025 at 10:19 AM, Underachiever said:

Agreed. I can accept that they did the cost/benefit analysis, and they decided no more moves was the best move.

I wanted them to go get a guy like Duran or... there were a few rumored to be available... but when you see Mason Miller cost De Vries... nah. 

Made and Chourio may be the Young and Molitor in 2027, '28. 

The other two relievers from the Twins were also guys I liked...and I know Jax has struggled(still think he can get it together) but I don't think they've been great. 

NOW looking at it, I'd have given up Henderson for a pitching upgrade. At the time I thought he would be one of the pitching upgrades. But I'm a month ahead of you in time. 

[BrewerFan]

4 hours ago, tmwiese55 said:

Ha, right.      On paper, I'd probably say Sea has the best team in the AL. So tough to put it on management too much.   But more or less, they're in the same spot they were before the moves and with the same % at a WS. While I'd think putting a dent in their farm for two guys who'll be gone at end of year

They still have 9 top 100 prospects and a bright future.

I don't love how we all go at a guy like @greenlawlerfor wanting to add... when his take was pretty reasonable IMO. Didn't agree, but reasonable and understandable. 

It WAS a pretty reasonable argument to make to want Suarez to play 3B or Naylor as a LHed 1B option... until Vaughn came on. Someone even said Andujar. I didn't think that was a good idea. He's been awesome. 

Hindsight makes this easy. We probably should have gone after a high leverage reliever. I said that thinking we could move guys down a slot(and I didn't think we'd replace Megill). So am I right or have circumstances that I couldn't have predicted made me right(it's the latter).  Suarez could have stayed hot and the Mariners could have won 2-3 games because of him. My point is... you don't know how it'll work until after and that still doesn't make your rationale right or wrong. Hell, I didn't like a trade they made. I still trust the FO, just... didn't like it. 

 

My ENTIRE opinion about the trade deadline lines up pretty closely with the playoffs. You're not betting solely on luck, but it does a lot of the heavy lifting. Guys get hot(Miguel Andujar) or guys slump(Suarez)... same as a playoff series can be lost by the better team and hinge on a few at bats or bounces. The Brewers probably win that Arizona series a few years back if just 2-3 balls for us that were hit hard with men on base found the OF grass and a few of the balls AZ hit that were bloopers didn't. 

 

So if you're going to make a trade, make one that gives you a few years, a few shots. Hell, I'm probably THE Brewers fan who thought we should have traded for Greinke over CC back in the day. 2.5 years vs half a year of CC(and then the Royals extended Greinke, buying out 2 more years of FA right after that 2008 season).

 

So it's hard for me to fault the Mariners... as you point out, they look great on paper and again, still have 9 top 100. You never know who is going to be that Carlos Beltran or Cespedes type player as a rental. 
 

 

Hell, there's another team in Wisconsin right now that's pretty giddy they just gave up a VERY valuable package of future assets in what looks like they'll be two extraordinary drafts for the right to pay a player a whole lot of money, not too dissimilar from what the Cubs did. I imagine if we'd traded... say Ortiz, maybe Quero and then a lower level reliever for Kyle Tucker, we would view this year a bit differently(difference being the Cubs did not extend Tucker and I don't think they will, but he'd look great in RF with Frelick in CF). 

 

So I don't know, I was good with what we did, I get the take that we should have done more and I don't anyone's really been proven right or wrong, it's just... baseball. Part of the fun is in the discussion around the moves. 

[greenlawler]

25 minutes ago, BrewerFan said:

They still have 9 top 100 prospects and a bright future.

I don't love how we all go at a guy like @greenlawlerfor wanting to add... when his take was pretty reasonable IMO. Didn't agree, but reasonable and understandable. 

It WAS a pretty reasonable argument to make to want Suarez to play 3B or Naylor as a LHed 1B option... until Vaughn came on. Someone even said Andujar. I didn't think that was a good idea. He's been awesome. 

Hindsight makes this easy. We probably should have gone after a high leverage reliever. I said that thinking we could move guys down a slot(and I didn't think we'd replace Megill). So am I right or have circumstances that I couldn't have predicted made me right(it's the latter).  Suarez could have stayed hot and the Mariners could have won 2-3 games because of him. My point is... you don't know how it'll work until after and that still doesn't make your rationale right or wrong. Hell, I didn't like a trade they made. I still trust the FO, just... didn't like it. 

 

My ENTIRE opinion about the trade deadline lines up pretty closely with the playoffs. You're not betting solely on luck, but it does a lot of the heavy lifting. Guys get hot(Miguel Andujar) or guys slump(Suarez)... same as a playoff series can be lost by the better team and hinge on a few at bats or bounces. The Brewers probably win that Arizona series a few years back if just 2-3 balls for us that were hit hard with men on base found the OF grass and a few of the balls AZ hit that were bloopers didn't. 

 

So if you're going to make a trade, make one that gives you a few years, a few shots. Hell, I'm probably THE Brewers fan who thought we should have traded for Greinke over CC back in the day. 2.5 years vs half a year of CC(and then the Royals extended Greinke, buying out 2 more years of FA right after that 2008 season).

 

So it's hard for me to fault the Mariners... as you point out, they look great on paper and again, still have 9 top 100. You never know who is going to be that Carlos Beltran or Cespedes type player as a rental. 
 

 

Hell, there's another team in Wisconsin right now that's pretty giddy they just gave up a VERY valuable package of future assets in what looks like they'll be two extraordinary drafts for the right to pay a player a whole lot of money, not too dissimilar from what the Cubs did. I imagine if we'd traded... say Ortiz, maybe Quero and then a lower level reliever for Kyle Tucker, we would view this year a big differently(difference being the Cubs did not extend Tucker and I don't think they will, but he'd look great in RF with Frelick in CF). 

 

So I don't know, I was good with what we did, I get the take that we should have done more and I don't anyone's really been proven right or wrong, it's just... baseball. Part of the fun is in the discussion around the moves. 

Thank you, I agree, In hindsight we could have done more but we did not. Just hope we win this whole darn thing for once. I am getting older, I want one World Series win before I die. 

[BrewerFan]

1 hour ago, greenlawler said:

Thank you, I agree, In hindsight we could have done more but we did not. Just hope we win this whole darn thing for once. I am getting older, I want one World Series win before I die. 

Yeah, I hear ya. We can get pretty tribal on this board and there are "consensus" opinions and... at times you find yourself going against them and it can be frustrating.

BUT... we didn't know last year would be Uecker's last. Maybe we do things differently. Maybe it doesn't matter. I mean, I know Williams blew it, but maybe we're up a couple more runs. I don't know. 

Just my personal opinion, I think the BEST years, the MOST talented Brewers team we may EVER see... will be the 2028, 2029, 2030 Brewers teams. 

Chourio should be a prime MVP candidate, we have two kids who are 18-19 who are crushing it in HiA... which doesn't mean much for a College prospect(though Fischer and Dinges look good as well) but it means whole lot for teenage LA or Prep hitters. 

So I really don't look at this season as like... that one best, last chance. 

But I get the motivation.

 

We ALL want to see the Brewers win. That should be what unites us above all else.

This isn't Twitter where people casually watch the Brewers and we start threads saying Murphy is a moron for throwing Koenig. 

[formerlybis]

If we had known Hall, Henderson, Mears, Anderson, and Megill (and then Miller) were all going to go on the IL after the trade deadline - holy crap, typing that out really hits home how bad it’s been - surely they would have tried harder to get a couple arms. But there really weren’t a boatload of pitchers that were available at reasonable prices that were obvious upgrades over the current roster at the time. Hindsight, blahblahblah 

And you could make the argument about overusing the bullpen made it more likely we’d get some breaking down, but basically every bullpen arm for every team is taxed at this time of year.

 

[Ewitkows1]

I see that Yoho threw a clean inning last night with 2 ks. If we can get him going, that's a huge weapon in the bullpen.

[sveumrules]

23 minutes ago, Ewitkows1 said:

I see that Yoho threw a clean inning last night with 2 ks. If we can get him going, that's a huge weapon in the bullpen.

Yup. Gasser dealing in AAA too (24.2 IP of 56 ERA- | 64 FIP-) could be another one.

[Thurston Fluff]

On 9/6/2025 at 11:59 PM, BrewerFan said:

They still have 9 top 100 prospects and a bright future.

Hindsight makes this easy. We probably should have gone after a high leverage reliever. I said that thinking we could move guys down a slot(and I didn't think we'd replace Megill). So am I right or have circumstances that I couldn't have predicted made me right(it's the latter).  Suarez could have stayed hot and the Mariners could have won 2-3 games because of him. My point is... you don't know how it'll work until after and that still doesn't make your rationale right or wrong. Hell, I didn't like a trade they made. I still trust the FO, just... didn't like it. 

Not to nitpick too much but we did get a high leverage reliever. He just happened to get injured. Thankfully it happened after he helped us get through a tough stretch. 

[Roderick]

It such the distant past, I don't remember.  The thing about adding more bullpen arms, was there room for anyone else after we added Miller?  Or would we have had to dfa someone to make room?  And then who would you dfa, everybody was pretty decent at the end of July.  The pain came afterwards.

[Jake McKibbin]

The Cubs expended actual capital to get Mike Soroka, who I don't think survived even a game with them? It could have been worse!

[BruisedCrew]

The “free falling” Mariners have now won 6 in a row and moved into a tie with the Astros for the division lead.

Their record of 22-16 since the break is second best in the AL, just behind the Red Sox 22-15. 

[bm1090]

 

On 9/12/2025 at 1:48 PM, BruisedCrew said:

The “free falling” Mariners have now won 6 in a row and moved into a tie with the Astros for the division lead.

Their record of 22-16 since the break is second best in the AL, just behind the Red Sox 22-15. 

The Mariners are 29-23 since the break. That's good!

Meanwhile, the Brewers are 34-18 since the break, which is the best record in the MLB.