Trade deadline day thread

[BruisedCrew]

How would you rate the 7 main NL playoff contenders in terms of how much they improved their teams at the deadline. This is just about this season, not whether moves might hurt the team in the future. 
 

I would go:

1 Padres

2. Mets

3. Phillies

4. Reds

5. Cubs

6.Dodgers (who seem to be counting on improvement by getting players back from the IL.)

7. Brewers

Thoughts?

[Matt]

5 minutes ago, BruisedCrew said:

How would you rate the 7 main NL playoff contenders in terms of how much they improved their teams at the deadline. This is just about this season, not whether moves might hurt the team in the future. 
 

I would go:

1 Padres

2. Mets

3. Phillies

4. Reds

5. Cubs

6.Dodgers (who seem to be counting on improvement by getting players back from the IL.)

7. Brewers

Thoughts?

Are we counting Vaughn? Because he's had a bigger impact than any of the additions 1-6 will have over the next two months. 

[Brewcrew82]

What if I told you the Brewers added this hitter before the deadline.....

 

 

 

[narwhalattack]

6 minutes ago, BruisedCrew said:

How would you rate the 7 main NL playoff contenders in terms of how much they improved their teams at the deadline. This is just about this season, not whether moves might hurt the team in the future. 
 

I would go:

1 Padres

2. Mets

3. Phillies

4. Reds

5. Cubs

6.Dodgers (who seem to be counting on improvement by getting players back from the IL.)

7. Brewers

Thoughts?

Too soon to tell. The Padres always seem to blow everyone's mind but what exactly have they accomplished in the past 20 years?

[Matt]

The deadline talk is so dumb. Not only did the Brewers add a guy who's performed like peak Barry Bonds, but they did it three weeks early. Who gives a **** if it comes in July or September. Maybe he also has an awesome October moment. The dude was the #3 pick in the draft. 

[wiguy94]

Pretty underwhelming deadline from the Brewers.

Miller is a solid add especially for what appears to be little cost but trading for a pitcher who has dealt with forearm issues is just playing with fire.

The Cortes trade was bizarre. Not that the Brewers traded him but that the Brewers traded him and a pretty interesting 18 year old for what appears to be a pinch runner.

Coming out of the deadline where you're one injury away from a Seigler/Monasterio platoon starting in the infield is not good. Brewers depth 2B/3B/SS depth is extremely weak.

Brewers have a real chance to finish with a Top 2 seed and a bye this year and not improving the roster is pretty underwhelming.

[SRB]

1 hour ago, Bulldogboy said:

As bad as Ortiz has been if he sprained his ankle today and missed a month i guess it’s Montesario every day. Wild

Turang to SS, Collins to 2B, and now we have an extra outfielder to put into the mix for LF

[Jim French Stepstool]

41 minutes ago, BruisedCrew said:

How would you rate the 7 main NL playoff contenders in terms of how much they improved their teams at the deadline. This is just about this season, not whether moves might hurt the team in the future. 
 

I would go:

1 Padres

2. Mets

3. Phillies

4. Reds

5. Cubs

6.Dodgers (who seem to be counting on improvement by getting players back from the IL.)

7. Brewers

Thoughts?

My thought is that your ranking seems pretty accurate when limited to the deadline vacuum.

Now do one on roster improvements from early April until now.

[MilwaukeeBeers]

I’m still in awe that we had to send cash and a legit prospect along with Cortes for a bonafide scrub. 
 

What does Preller have on Arnold? He takes us to the woodshed every damn deal. 

[greenlawler]

Another year, another trade deadline where the Brewers do not trade for a bat, and their big move is RP. I do not understand this.

 

Just frustrated, been a Brewer fan since 82. 

Edited August 1, 2025 by greenlawler

[Brewer77]

16 minutes ago, Matt said:

The deadline talk is so dumb. Not only did the Brewers add a guy who's performed like peak Barry Bonds, but they did it three weeks early. Who gives a **** if it comes in July or September. Maybe he also has an awesome October moment. The dude was the #3 pick in the draft. 

There are some that want to see moves just because others are making moves, but I think much of the frustration lies in that the Brewers have a clear deficiency in the infield and failed to address it in any manner and the deadline shuts the door on that. They didn’t have to get any new starters, but the bench infielders bring very little to the table 

Unfortunately the supply was much smaller than the demand this deadline, which made it challenging (but not impossible) to upgrade

[Team Canada]

1 hour ago, Bulldogboy said:

Brewers fans are so happy being competitive that they get offended by the concept of trying to get better.

You keep saying this. Almost verbatim, over and over. That was why I said just stop. This is a giant strawman. It's not accurately representing what those who might disagree with an "all in" philosophy are saying. But you are happy to just take potshots at people instead.

NO ONE is against getting better. The choice, however, isn't get players for free or do nothing. It costs something, and different fans (and GMs!) have different appetites for what they're willing to give up to make marginal improvements. That's ok.

We also have no idea what people were actually asking Arnold for. If the man who built this team into what it is right now didn't see a deal worth making, I'm ok with that. Others might not be, and that's ok too.

[Team Canada]

1 minute ago, greenlawler said:

Another year, another trade deadline where the Brewers do not trade for a bat, and their big move is RP. I do not understand this.

 

Just frustrated, been a Brewer fan since 82. 

Welcome!

[Matt]

3 minutes ago, greenlawler said:

Another year, another trade deadline where the Brewers do not trade for a bat, and their big move is RP. I do not understand this.

 

Just frustrated, been a Brewer fan since 82. 

Buddy, the Brewers traded for a guy who's been on an insane run at the plate. 1.157 OPS. 

[ghostdrew]

16 minutes ago, MilwaukeeBeers said:

I’m still in awe that we had to send cash and a legit prospect along with Cortes for a bonafide scrub. 
 

What does Preller have on Arnold? He takes us to the woodshed every damn deal. 

Who is the scrub miller under 2era and 10 saves nope can't be him oh that prospect must be real close and we have no if  prospect better .

[liveforoctober]

1 hour ago, rickh150 said:

We can’t trade lottery tickets for a FA to be that would be better than Monasterio and Siegler?  Or a decent prospect in a deep, rich system for a veteran utility guy? Seems odd and yes, 614 post worthy to me too.  
 

You are doing the same thing. You are upset over something you don't know. I have stated my support for wanting to address the infield. 

But there is a spectrum of what happened today/the last few days. On one extreme, there is a chance Arnold didn't make a single phone call and rejected every incoming call and refused to try to improve the roster. On the other extreme, he offered a package of Made, Pena, Pratt, and Mis for any shortstop on every other team's roster.

The truth is somewhere between those two extremes but you are all upset and acting like the truth is very close to the first thing I said, and unless you have some inside info you would like to tell the class, I find it peculiar that you would allow yourself to get worked up over a narrative you are creating.

[wiguy94]

I certainly am not advocating for the Brewers to do what Preller has done in San Diego. I think that guy is a maniac, but Preller's FO seems to be pretty elite at scouting/developing and replenish their farm system very well every year before doing these huge trades every year. 

I think the Brewers have pretty good scouting and developmental systems in place, so I think the Brewers could certainly be a bit more aggressive at the deadline trading prospects in the 10-30 range and then replace them through the draft and IFA without really skipping a beat. I'm certainly not advocating for trading off our best prospects but it does seem like Arnold and the FO are a bit on the conservative side.

[ghostdrew]

20 minutes ago, wiguy94 said:

I certainly am not advocating for the Brewers to do what Preller has done in San Diego. I think that guy is a maniac, but Preller's FO seems to be pretty elite at scouting/developing and replenish their farm system very well every year before doing these huge trades every year. 

I think the Brewers have pretty good scouting and developmental systems in place, so I think the Brewers could certainly be a bit more aggressive at the deadline trading prospects in the 10-30 range and then replace them through the draft and IFA without really skipping a beat. I'm certainly not advocating for trading off our best prospects but it does seem like Arnold and the FO are a bit on the conservative side.

So why do you use a subjective rating system as a  basis for your thinking and ratings of 10-30 means nothing  because I'm sure Arnold doesn't go with that .

[wiguy94]

5 minutes ago, ghostdrew said:

So why do you use a subjective rating system as a  basis for your thinking and ratings of 10-30 means nothing  because I'm sure Arnold doesn't go with that .

It was basically a proxy for saying not trading your best prospects. Sorry you somehow missed that.

[greenlawler]

47 minutes ago, Matt said:

Buddy, the Brewers traded for a guy who's been on an insane run at the plate. 1.157 OPS. 

I love Vaughn, he's been awesome for sure. I just wish we had let go of a little of our depth this year. This is the year we need to go for it.  Maybe get a bat on the other corner?

[ghostdrew]

12 hours ago, ghostdrew said:

It was basically a proxy for saying not trading your best prospects. Sorry you somehow missed that.

No just say what you mean because people might not understand what your getting at 

[greenlawler]

Maybe Rhys can play third....lol

[greenlawler]

3 hours ago, Scooterfletcher said:

Adding Suarez doesn’t increase our World Series odds more than a couple percentage points.   Right now we are the best team in baseball.   If we are hot in the playoffs, we will make the World Series.   Because we keep our prospects, we will have multiple chances at the World Series and my guess is we get there by 2030 (maybe even this year ).

Except this is the Brewers best chance at a World Series since 82......but yeah let's just settle for the infield we have now. 

[BruisedCrew]

No, I don’t count the Vaughn trade as a deadline move because the Brewers didn’t acquire him to improve the major league roster. He was just  a body that they picked up in a forced trade. He probably wouldn’t even be on the active roster now if Hoskins hadn’t gotten hurt. 
 

The fact that he has had an an unforeseeable and unsustainable hot streak doesn’t excuse not doing  something to address the other holes on the roster.

I wasn’t expecting a blockbuster move, but something like Hairston in 2011, Moustakas in 2018, and Santana and Canha in 2023 would have helped with depth.

[adambr2]

Brewers fans: “Hey, Cortes should be worth something, right?”

Brewers front office: “Hey, how much do we need to give for someone to take Cortes off our hands?”

Man, I give up trying to figure out what is worth what.