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Was thinking about the Burnes trade and our reliance on comp picks…

We must view any comp pick in a trade is a neutral. You give it to us this year, you get it if he doesn’t sign next year. A wash, essentially a free add on to any trade.

Teams with a comp pick that could be seen as contenders:

Braves, Astros, Guardians, Royals, Diamondbacks (x2 if Gallen gets one), and Orioles.

Wouldn't be surprised if it was one of those teams just cause that free value is there for both sides.

 

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Astros I don’t know much about but they stuck out to me as a team that would offer a higher package for Freddy than almost any other mlb team.   I’d be interested in hearing what a Peralta to Astros deal might look like from posters that know at least a little about their system.   Secondly,  Burnes I could see pounding the table for his buddy to be traded to Arizona.  Lawler and the comp pick would at least make me think about whether we could find a package that is enough for giving up Freddy’s cheap final year here.

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The more I think about it, the more I like the Orioles / Beavers / Comp Pick / Arm trade. Basically a rehash of the Burnes trade.

They weren’t really burned by Ortiz and Hall, might want to take a second crack at it. Also need an arm after the Grayson Rodriguez trade.

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28 minutes ago, Scooterfletcher said:

Astros I don’t know much about but they stuck out to me as a team that would offer a higher package for Freddy than almost any other mlb team.   I’d be interested in hearing what a Peralta to Astros deal might look like from posters that know at least a little about their system.   Secondly,  Burnes I could see pounding the table for his buddy to be traded to Arizona.  Lawler and the comp pick would at least make me think about whether we could find a package that is enough for giving up Freddy’s cheap final year here.

Please explain why you think the Astros would give us a higher package than any other MLB team?  Was there an article posted someplace stating that?

I HIGHLY doubt AZ gives up Lawler for Freddy unless we are willing to add a lot more value on our end.  Freddy has one season left on his contract, AZ would be a little crazy to do Lawler for Freddy unless we were adding more.

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37 minutes ago, Scooterfletcher said:

Astros I don’t know much about but they stuck out to me as a team that would offer a higher package for Freddy than almost any other mlb team.   I’d be interested in hearing what a Peralta to Astros deal might look like from posters that know at least a little about their system.   Secondly,  Burnes I could see pounding the table for his buddy to be traded to Arizona.  Lawler and the comp pick would at least make me think about whether we could find a package that is enough for giving up Freddy’s cheap final year here.

I honestly don't think that the Astros line up with us in terms of prospect capital. I think for a deal to get done with the Astros, we'd have to get a guy or two back in the deal that is already in the big leagues.  Maybe a Cam Smith or an Isaac Paredes.....but I'm not sure why the Astros would want to include either of those guys back in a deal for 1-year of Freddy?  

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22 hours ago, BrewerFan said:

Baltimore is not going to trade Basallo for Freddy Peralta. I don't like to speak in absolutes... but they're absolutely NOT trading the guy they just signed to an 8 year extension with an additional team option at 20 years old... and then turn around and trade him for a rental. 

His comp is Yordan Alvarez... but at catcher. Would you make that trade if it was the Brewers?

Would you trade... Jesus Made for one year of Freddy Peralta?

That's roughly what you'd be asking of the O's. Made may have more upside(may) but Basallo is under team control through 2035. 

To be fair you could have crossed Basallo off the list even before they signed him to that extension. Basallo was like a consensus Top 10 prospect in baseball before he debuted. I don't think any team at this point in time is going to trade a consensus Top 10 prospect with full team control for 1 year of a good/very good not great SP

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4 hours ago, TURBO said:

Please explain why you think the Astros would give us a higher package than any other MLB team?  Was there an article posted someplace stating that?

I HIGHLY doubt AZ gives up Lawler for Freddy unless we are willing to add a lot more value on our end.  Freddy has one season left on his contract, AZ would be a little crazy to do Lawler for Freddy unless we were adding more.

Dude, you were so offended when whatever his name was from here rode your opinions.   Why do you like to be such a troll.   It doesn’t affect but I do like responding.   Whatever but you are so played out and I don’t have the time to care about responding to your proposals of deals (if you ever even have any).

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I just don’t think the Burnes and Peralta situations for what we are seeking are quite the same .   Murph wanted Oliver Dunn as his 3B before 2 months in moving onto Joey:   Maybe we really thought Hall was a 2-3 idk.   But we knew we’d be a playoff team even trading Burnes (our brass i believe felt).   This time, it’s a cheaper contract and a team closer to the WS is likely Arnold’s thought.   We will trade him, but we will need to feel we won the trade more than Arnold felt he won the Burnes trade or we just run it back. 

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14 hours ago, Scooterfletcher said:

Dude, you were so offended when whatever his name was from here rode your opinions.   Why do you like to be such a troll.   It doesn’t affect but I do like responding.   Whatever but you are so played out and I don’t have the time to care about responding to your proposals of deals (if you ever even have any).

So then, you simply can't defend your posts?

I asked you a couple simple questions above, and rather than answer them. you go into some song and dance about being played out and trolls?

You just don't like being questioned.

Also, I've been here a lot longer than you have, I am far from a troll.  Your ridiculous takes on things and unbelievably awful trade proposals are the reason you get questioned, but your reaction is that since you can't answer those questions, I must be a troll?

Pretty lame...

 

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OK-I could get banned from Brewer Fanatic after proposing this, but here goes:

Athletics get Peralta, Megill and Bauers

Brewers get Nick Kurtz and a mid or top-tier pitcher from their farm system. If I read correctly, Kurtz's salary is under Freddy's, but not by much. Think what it would be like to have a two-headed power combo at first base.

Waiting for the fallout... 😏

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24 minutes ago, Profbratsch said:

OK-I could get banned from Brewer Fanatic after proposing this, but here goes:

Athletics get Peralta, Megill and Bauers

Brewers get Nick Kurtz and a mid or top-tier pitcher from their farm system. If I read correctly, Kurtz's salary is under Freddy's, but not by much. Think what it would be like to have a two-headed power combo at first base.

Waiting for the fallout... 😏

Think that proposal is more likely to get you banned from Athletics Fanatic.

Not sure ATH has any interest in dealing Kurtz and if they did the ask would probably be for guys like Misio and/or Made with high upside and multiple years of team control remaining.

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How about Peralta, Megill, Taylor Black and Josh Knoth (NY kid) to the Mets for Jonah Tong, Jett Williams and Brett Baty.   Mets try to keep up with the Dodgers and we get lots of player control and a possible Peralta replacement. a potential power bat in Baty and a possible SS in Jett Williams with lots of positional flexibility (plus we like the 5'7" guys) 

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1 hour ago, Waunakee said:

How about Peralta, Megill, Taylor Black and Josh Knoth (NY kid) to the Mets for Jonah Tong, Jett Williams and Brett Baty.   Mets try to keep up with the Dodgers and we get lots of player control and a possible Peralta replacement. a potential power bat in Baty and a possible SS in Jett Williams with lots of positional flexibility (plus we like the 5'7" guys) 

This one would be tough. The trade doesn't do anything for the Brewers in 2026 if they are seriously trying to make the W.S..... Tong obviously is the prize. A great big arm with a high ceiling. I don't know if the Mets would do it unless they could extend Peralta. Williams doesn't offer much considering all the young talent the Brewers have coming up. I don't know if Baty helps at all. He hit more HRs than Durbin, but had fewer RBIs.  Durbin's OBP was better and his glove is much better at 3B. Considering the premium Milwaukee puts on defense, I'd rather have Durbin at the hot corner. 

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4 hours ago, Waunakee said:

How about Peralta, Megill, Taylor Black and Josh Knoth (NY kid) to the Mets for Jonah Tong, Jett Williams and Brett Baty.   Mets try to keep up with the Dodgers and we get lots of player control and a possible Peralta replacement. a potential power bat in Baty and a possible SS in Jett Williams with lots of positional flexibility (plus we like the 5'7" guys) 

Tyler, it's TYLER BLACK.

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35 minutes ago, Jopal78 said:

Cam Schlitter and Spencer Jones for Peralta. Who says no. 

The Yankees.  Spencer Jones doesn’t have all that much value and is a K machine.  Schlitter would only be included by the Yankees if they had a guarantee that Peralta would accept a long term deal.  Very close to Peralta’s value.

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Talking Hou on MLB Network today.  They seem to have a roster crunch of IFs due to getting Correa last year.  So you have Walker/Paredes for one position, so they're likely going to move someone.   I don't know how Paredes D checks out, but two years of Paredes for one year of Peralta could make some sense as a foundation.     Fits our need assuming he can play 3B competently

A problem is Hou knows the won't resign Peralta (they let all their pitchers go rather than give out big money to them) so its a true rental.   And Paredes is a perfect in that park. If I'm them I'd rather look to move Walker to someone who missed out on Alonso. Heck maybe even the Mets.  Walker at 2/40 is a better fit than Alonso at 5/150,

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1 hour ago, Jopal78 said:

Cam Schlitter and Spencer Jones for Peralta. Who says no. 

The Yankees wouldn't trade Schlittler straight up for Peralta. 

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43 minutes ago, tmwiese55 said:

A problem is Hou knows the won't resign Peralta (they let all their pitchers go rather than give out big money to them) so its a true rental.   

The rental part is why I keep going back to teams with a comp pick this year. It’s basically a wash. You give us a pick, you get a pick. Even. Now it’s just for the rental fee.

Beavers from the O’s seems like a slam dunk Brewer (and they have a comp pick).

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6 minutes ago, Brewcrew82 said:

Michael Harris and JR Ritchie for Peralta and Mitchell is about fair value per BTV. No added salary for the Brewers. 

I was thinking Richie and Fuentes for Peralta alone.   I think Braves do this (thinking they can resign him) but unsure if Brewers do it (ultimately I’d lean to saying they would).

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Just now, Scooterfletcher said:

I was thinking Richie and Fuentes for Peralta alone.   I think Braves do this (thinking they can resign him) but unsure if Brewers do it (ultimately I’d lean to saying they would).

Brice Mathews and Paredes for Peralta I’d do.   Deal them Mona to clear the 40 man spot in the deal.   Seems fair.

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