Freddy Peralta

[Trail]

I love Freddy.  I especially love that he's been pretty much healthy.  If you're ever going to give a longer deal to a pitcher, he's the guy.  And...it seems he'd like to stay in Milwaukee.  However, to do that he'll have to sign below his market value.  Bottom line:  if you cannot sign him by the winter meetings, its irresponsible not to trade him.  His value is just too high to let him walk.  Letting him go will hurt a lot more than the others, emotionally, but you have to do it.  

[SF70]

33 minutes ago, Scooterfletcher said:

Id counter that us adding one or two 15-20 prospects is closer to fair value than us NOT getting two 50-75 prospects in the deal.    Keep in mind an extension with the Mets is possible to be agreed upon just before a hypothetical trade occurs, thus improving our compensation package.  
 

You make sure and get Baty or Williams and one of the three pitchers in any Mets/Peralta deal.  

1 top 50 prospect is pretty close to $25-$30M in SV just by himself. Adding another makes that a pretty big overpay. 

[Fear The Chorizo]

Freddy will turn 30 in the middle of next season - at $8M for 2026 and what he can do on the mound, IMO the Brewers won't get anything close to equal value in trading him for prospects before opening day.  I think he provides a great rotation anchor role and is absolutely worth keeping around for next year to build around with all the other young arms.

I also wouldn't want to extend him and will be happy to pick up the draft compensation assuming he declines the QO and enters free agency next offseason (similar to Burnes)....assuming there is an offseason - wondering what an impending lockout means to any free agents and what sort of compensation package that looks like for a team losing a free agent.  

I think 2026 should be a "go for it" year in Milwaukee unlike any other, because who the hell knows what the financial landscape will look like past this next season.  That's actually the main reason why I wouldn't trade Freddy, now that I think of it.

[BrewerFan]

On 10/18/2025 at 12:33 PM, Frisbee Slider said:

I think Peralta deserves his own thread.

For $8 M this year, Peralta provided 5.5 WAR and a 2.70 ERA over 33 regular season starts. Incredible value.

Peralta has 30+ starts for three consecutive seasons.

I’d rather have Peralta’s 2026 performance for $8 M than trade him for the equal or lesser equivalent of DL Hall and Joey Ortiz. Maybe a higher ceiling version of Caleb Durbin, if such a player is made available.

 

Well... two things.

1-I think there's a very real chance people are going to be talking about how they gave up on Ortiz far too early a year from now. He's played two seasons. One at SS. He was a solid hitter one year, a very poor hitter the other year. 
DL Hall is also a very solid pitcher, BUT... of course you'd rather have Peralta over him. 

The Goal is to trade for a pitcher like Abel and then hope you can develop him. I'm thinking of... the Padres. A team with a need RIGHT NOW and a team that's always willing to trade their young prospects, but I'd trade Peralta for Kruz Schoolcraft, Humberto Cruz, and then the guy I really like Miguel Mendez. 

Mendez is a guy I think the Brewers could do a lot with.

 

But if you're going to trade Peralta... and I'm more split on this than I was a month ago, if you do, you should be looking for pitchers who are on the same trajectory as Made, Fischer and that group. The Padres don't have much in their system, but they're desperate to win and they have 3 REALLY good young arms, that'd make the most sense.

Then we could still have
Edit-Priester-Someone I forgot about him
Misi
Patrick
Myers
Henderson
Ashby
Gasser
 

And I would anticipate adding a pitcher. I think Dylan Cease would be perfect. Pony up, give him 3/60. I think he'd be better in Milwaukee. 

 

I don't think we're going to do anything and that probably makes the most sense. We've got a very good farm system, we DO have some pitchers who are on that timeline... I'm just saying, a couple of really high ceiling type arms who will be in HiA or AA next year... I love the position group of players we've got, I wouldn't mind seeing us add to the SPing. 

[Matt]

I'm not really interested in dealing Freddy for MLB ready infielders. Just because we have holes on the left side of the IF (depending on how you feel about Durbin) or perhaps 1B doesn't mean we won't as soon as 2027 guys like Wilken, Fischer, and Burke stand to be in the mix. Hell, Made could make opening day if he continues along the Chourio path. 

We're weak in the OF, and we could use more high upside arms. That's where I'd look in a Freddy deal.

[sveumrules]

1 hour ago, homer said:

Are we thinking the Brewers will get more for Freddy than they did for Burnes?

I would guess less. The difference in salary is little over $8.5M if favor of Peralta, but Burnes had a much better track record leading up to their respective trades...

Burnes 2021-23: 562 IP (4th)
(ranks among 104 pitchers min. 300 IP)
70 ERA- (7th) | 69 FIP- (4th) | 82 AVG+ (3rd)
133 K+ (8th) | 79 BB+ (38th) | 71 HR9+ (14th)
16.2 rWAR (2nd) | 15.5 fWAR (3rd) | +8.09 WPA (4th)

Peralta 2023-25: 516 IP (15th)
(ranks among 106 pitchers min. 300 IP)
81 ERA- (18th) | 93 FIP- (39th) | 85 AVG+ (7th)
130 K+ (11th) | 106 BB+ (89th) | 109 HR9+ (70th)
12.4 rWAR (8th) | 8.9 fWAR (23rd) | +5.98 WPA (10th)

Corbin was viewed as a legit ace and ended up getting 6/210 in free agency. Plenty scoff at Freddy even being considered a #2 and I can't imagine anyone thinks he is realistically approaching $210M or a $35M AAV in free agency.

At the time of the Burnes trade the 2024 rankings on BRef for Ortiz were #63 by MLB & unranked by BA/BPro. DL Hall had already graduated, but in 2023 he was #75 by BA, #97 by MLB, and #95 by BPro. So essentially two back end Top 100 kind of guys. 

I don't see the Brewers dealing Peralta for less than that when both the minor league system and major league team are in much better positions than they were when Burnes was traded.
 

[adambr2]

28 minutes ago, Fear The Chorizo said:

Freddy will turn 30 in the middle of next season - at $8M for 2026 and what he can do on the mound, IMO the Brewers won't get anything close to equal value in trading him for prospects before opening day.  I think he provides a great rotation anchor role and is absolutely worth keeping around for next year to build around with all the other young arms.

I also wouldn't want to extend him and will be happy to pick up the draft compensation assuming he declines the QO and enters free agency next offseason (similar to Burnes)....assuming there is an offseason - wondering what an impending lockout means to any free agents and what sort of compensation package that looks like for a team losing a free agent.  

I think 2026 should be a "go for it" year in Milwaukee unlike any other, because who the hell knows what the financial landscape will look like past this next season.  That's actually the main reason why I wouldn't trade Freddy, now that I think of it.

Just so people have their expectations in check on what “go for it” actually means.

Our version of “go for it” is something the Dodgers would find to be …adorable, would be one way to put it.

[BrewerFan]

1 hour ago, Scooterfletcher said:

Id counter that us adding one or two 15-20 prospects is closer to fair value than us NOT getting two 50-75 prospects in the deal.    Keep in mind an extension with the Mets is possible to be agreed upon just before a hypothetical trade occurs, thus improving our compensation package.  
 

You make sure and get Baty or Williams and one of the three pitchers in any Mets/Peralta deal.  

I don't think you're getting a guy like McClean in any trade for Peralta. I think the only thing you can do is look for a guy who is a year behind McClean, try and figure out who the next version of McClean will be, try and pick him up. That's why I liked Mendez from the Padres. He's a guy with elite stuff, little rough around the edges, but big upside.

 

I don't think Peralta gets you Williams+Tong... and as you'll see below, I'm not particularly interested in Baty as a center piece.
 

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• Detroit Tigers Get: Brandon Sproat, Jett Williams, Ryan Clifford, and Nick Morabito

• New York Mets Get: Tarik Skubal

“Sproat is a major league-ready pitcher, Williams could start in the major leagues next year, Clifford’s almost there, and Morabito is a Rule-5 [prospect] but also brings value, and it’s a really good mix of guys the Tigers might be interested in, but also you’re not giving up McLean,” Benn said. “And the reason you’re not is you’re getting Skubal for one year.”

 

That's for Skubal. For Skubal next year, I'd keep Peralta and trade Pratt, Pena, Henderson and that's more than they're proposing.

Now this is a comically low ball offer for Skubal, but... I don't think Stearns is going to trade away those two young arms. 

 

13 hours ago, endaround said:

Baty may have been available last offseason, but I doubt he is now and if he is it would cost more than one season of Peralta.

Ok... Durbin had a BABIP about 40 points lower than Baty last year and we've got... 5-6 guys on their way up in the next year or two. I wouldn't be making a trade like this for Baty. 

And then moving pass Durbin-Baty which is REALLY much closer to a push(especially when you adjust for Durbin's .261 BABIP and Baty with a BABIP over .300 and their near identical value. You also have the fact that Durbin was new to 3B.

But you have Wilken, Adams, Fischer, Made/Pratt can't both play 3B. I think looking at 3B/1B acquisitions is looking backward. You have guys who will be in AAA and you have guys in AA and you imperfect fits in Boeve, Black, Ortiz(who we're all writing off prematurely) if he's kicked off 3B...all while having 1B/3B lined up with Vaughn and Durbin. 

https://stathead.com/baseball/versus-finder.cgi?player_id2=durbin000cal&year_min=2025&player_id1=baty--000bre&request=1&utm_id=batybr01&utm_medium=sr_xsite&utm_campaign=2023_01_wdgt_player_comparison&utm_source=br

 

 

So give me a couple of guys who throw in the upper 90s with an elite 2nd pitch and a 3rd pitch that needs work, a change up... the exact type of pitchers the Brewers seem to do their best work with. 

 

Otherwise, roll with Peralta and run it back. 

[BrewerFan]

1 hour ago, Trail said:

I love Freddy.  I especially love that he's been pretty much healthy.  If you're ever going to give a longer deal to a pitcher, he's the guy.  And...it seems he'd like to stay in Milwaukee.  However, to do that he'll have to sign below his market value.  Bottom line:  if you cannot sign him by the winter meetings, its irresponsible not to trade him.  His value is just too high to let him walk.  Letting him go will hurt a lot more than the others, emotionally, but you have to do it.  

I don't actually think you do. I think you had to with Hader, Gomez, Lucroy...Burnes. I don't really view Williams trade as the same. 

But we've got a good enough farm system that we can listen to deals, but we do not have to make one just to keep recycling talent. We have so much talent coming up and you'll get a high draft pick and what, ~2.5M in bonus money when we offer Peralta a QO after 2026? 

So you need to beat that offer by enough that it's worth taking a guy who I think is actually a really good #2 pitcher(not a true ace) from a 97 win team. 

If you get that from... again, the Padres keep coming to mind given how desperate they are and the SPers that'll be FAs. Plus, they like the flashy new trade every-single-time.

 

14 minutes ago, adambr2 said:

Just so people have their expectations in check on what “go for it” actually means.

Our version of “go for it” is something the Dodgers would find to be …adorable, would be one way to put it.

Yeah, again yesterday one of those guys who "covers" the Dodgers by writing for Bleacher Report or whatever... after saying the Brewers could have signed Ohtani, Freeman, Snell, Yamamoto, people like that, he THEN listed the "cheap" options.

Teoscar Hernández was one of his examples. The guy who signed with the Dodgers after he was surprisingly not given a QO by the Mariners in 2023 and signed a 1-year 23.5M deal. 

That's their... cheap option. Or one of them, Max Muncy and then... Sasaki were the other two examples. One of whom was likely going to get more than any Japanese players ever had he waited a year and come over as a FA instead of as a prospect. 

 

I'm not so interested in the "go for it" mentality with Peralta though. I think he puts up really good numbers that helps out more in the regular season than the post-season. I think we have good young pitchers, but he's not going to decide a series like Blake Snell(or even like I think Burnes/Woodruff WERE capable of doing). 

 

I just don't have a strong opinion on Peralta. We have a lot of guys who can starter, even more who can start and give you 4-5 innings regularly. If you get a deal with a really good prospect a year away and the value is really in your favor, do it.

Don't do it just so you can check off, "got 2 top 75 prospects for pitcher with one year left." If we had the 20th ranked system, I'd do it. WE don't, it's top 5. Be open, but a draft pick isn't the worst case scenario. 

[Fear The Chorizo]

35 minutes ago, adambr2 said:

Just so people have their expectations in check on what “go for it” actually means.

Our version of “go for it” is something the Dodgers would find to be …adorable, would be one way to put it.

Well, obviously - my point is that the Brewers should view this coming offseason from the lens of "how do we get the most talent on the field for 2026 to win a world series, knowing minor league prospects not yet on 40 man rosters may readily replace MLB players in 2028 over the next couple years if an extended strike happens?

 

Looking at it that way, IMO, means Freddy goes nowhere and is a Brewer in 2026

[torts]

3 hours ago, sveumrules said:

I would guess less. The difference in salary is little over $8.5M if favor of Peralta, but Burnes had a much better track record leading up to their respective trades...

Burnes 2021-23: 562 IP (4th)
(ranks among 104 pitchers min. 300 IP)
70 ERA- (7th) | 69 FIP- (4th) | 82 AVG+ (3rd)
133 K+ (8th) | 79 BB+ (38th) | 71 HR9+ (14th)
16.2 rWAR (2nd) | 15.5 fWAR (3rd) | +8.09 WPA (4th)

Peralta 2023-25: 516 IP (15th)
(ranks among 106 pitchers min. 300 IP)
81 ERA- (18th) | 93 FIP- (39th) | 85 AVG+ (7th)
130 K+ (11th) | 106 BB+ (89th) | 109 HR9+ (70th)
12.4 rWAR (8th) | 8.9 fWAR (23rd) | +5.98 WPA (10th)

Corbin was viewed as a legit ace and ended up getting 6/210 in free agency. Plenty scoff at Freddy even being considered a #2 and I can't imagine anyone thinks he is realistically approaching $210M or a $35M AAV in free agency.

At the time of the Burnes trade the 2024 rankings on BRef for Ortiz were #63 by MLB & unranked by BA/BPro. DL Hall had already graduated, but in 2023 he was #75 by BA, #97 by MLB, and #95 by BPro. So essentially two back end Top 100 kind of guys. 

I don't see the Brewers dealing Peralta for less than that when both the minor league system and major league team are in much better positions than they were when Burnes was traded.
 

This is why I wouldnt trade Peralta.  Everyone is ready to move on from the return from a better arm, I can't imagine what this place would be like of a lesser return.  Better to let him walk after next year and take a risk with a draft pick in 2027/28 depending whenever he actually signs.  

[DonBarclay]

I think you trade him only if you can get two high level pitching prospects in A+ or AA. They have so many SP candidates, which is great as you can never have too many. But at the end of the day, if they cannot extend Freddy, you focus on what gives you the best chance from 2027-2032, that seems to be the real WS window. They overachieved this year, and might again next year. But if you’re trying to maximize a chance at WS, you trade him. See what you have in Gasser, Priester, Myers, Ashby, Hall, Henderson, Patrick, Miz as starters and decide who you’re rolling with moving forward. 
 

If they cannot get two high level prospects, you keep him. The comp pick would be one, so no point in trading him for just one. Don’t get a good enough deal, see if you do at the deadline or just keep him. 

[wallus]

Keep Freddy, take the pick. Teams are not trading big time prospects for rentals anymore (unless you're the Padres)

[tmwiese55]

I'm gonna take a wild guess that I think the team has a good relationship with him like they do Woodruff and they work out a short extension this offseason.  Something like turning 1/8 into 3/50 ballpark with the 3rd year being a player option.  He gets a raise next year, doesn't risk injury, locks in money before potential lockout. Still can hit big FA at age 32/33 and try to get a dumb contract from someone else.     Chances are his agents would not recommend something like this being one year away from a potential 200 mil contract but that's why I said 'wild guess'

[TURBO]

I just don't think 3 at 50 million is going to get this done.  I'm going to go out on a limb and predict his next contract is al least 6 years, at 25 million per.  6 years at 150 million, and that might be light.  I could see a 7 year 200 million deal as well.  Both of which out prices the Brewers.

I think it's a dangerous mind game to play with ourselves to think we have a chance to either extend him for a home team discount, or even extend him for market value (impossible).  It just isn't going to happen as long as there are teams out there willing to pay him what he thinks he is worth on the open market.

Nothing wrong with seeing what we can get in the off season, and if those offers aren't good enough, keep him, and let him anchor the 2026 squad.

[Brewluver]

Is there gonna be a ALCS Game 7 thread for tonight ??

[adambr2]

Yeah I’m going to say absolutely no way he lets us buy out 2 years of FA like that so close to free agency, especially after having already a team friendly long deal here. He’ll get 150M and he should. Just too much risk to take something short-term now. 

[tmwiese55]

I said wild, I know its longshot and agents are going to want to gamble.  Just get the vibe there is a good will on both sides so they might find a way to do something that works for both.   But some details I think are being glossed over its essentially a 2/42ish extension. Thats in the neigborhood of yearly value, and say is 2/50 its the same general idea.   He gets a raise next year and the player option lets him opt out if all goes well the next two years.  So its only moving back his FA one year from where it as as of now if all goes well, while letting him put 42-50ish (whatever number the agree) extra mil in the bank right now no matter what.   He's taking the risk on delaying by one more year, MKE is taking the risk that if he gets hurt we're out that money.

[Scooterfletcher]

Arnold might not accept a Sproat/Tong and Baty for Peralta deal for our side but Stearns would for the Mets guaranteed.

[TURBO]

8 minutes ago, Scooterfletcher said:

Arnold might not accept a Sproat/Tong and Baty for Peralta deal for our side but Stearns would for the Mets guaranteed.

You have Stearns on speed dial?

[MrTPlush]

I don’t really see a point in trading him. You get an okay return and lose a starter that has dependably given you incredible regular season value and is a great pitcher? We are clearly going to try to win next year and are completely void of veteran pitching. Woodruff is almost certainly gone and Quintana is quite plausible gone too. 
 

We would spend double or more just to find another veteran arm…that is way worse. 
 

Way too much confidence in Priester repeating his year and Miz even being able to hold down a spot in the rotation next year…let alone be a great starter.

[dlk9s]

Brewers are going to trade Freddy and just hope we don't notice.

 

[nate82]

1 hour ago, dlk9s said:

Brewers are going to trade Freddy and just hope we don't notice.

 

[titanrick]

On 10/20/2025 at 3:35 PM, tmwiese55 said:

I said wild, I know its longshot and agents are going to want to gamble.  Just get the vibe there is a good will on both sides so they might find a way to do something that works for both.   But some details I think are being glossed over its essentially a 2/42ish extension. Thats in the neigborhood of yearly value, and say is 2/50 its the same general idea.   He gets a raise next year and the player option lets him opt out if all goes well the next two years.  So its only moving back his FA one year from where it as as of now if all goes well, while letting him put 42-50ish (whatever number the agree) extra mil in the bank right now no matter what.   He's taking the risk on delaying by one more year, MKE is taking the risk that if he gets hurt we're out that money.

I don't think this is that far-fetched.  Peralta signed a long-term deal early in his career, essentially to get more money up front and risk sacrificing some in the long-term (which he ultimately did).  I thought I heard at the time that he was doing it for his family back home; being able to help them more than he would have with typical early salaries.  So changing 1 year at $8M into 2 years at $50M, then still being young enough to land a 6-8 year deal after that?  I could at least see that as a tempting option for him, especially if he's enjoying MKE as much as he says he is.  I think he's being genuine with those comments.

I am 100% against trading him now.  I was on board with the earlier trades of our stars because we weren't yet close to being a WS contender.  But we just led the league in wins and have a great young nucleus who will hopefully be improving next year.  Four horrific games against LA didn't change that.  If this isn't the spot to "go for it" by keeping Peralta next year, then that spot is never coming.  And if the only risk is losing two players similar to Ortiz and Hall?  Ride it out and see if we can win it all next year.

[Scooterfletcher]

My quote on the last post failed on me, but does he mean for Freddy to play it the 1/8 as is while getting a 2/50 extension for 27 and 28?  Or does he mean chop up the 1/8 and give Peralta a 2/50 covering 26/27?  Because that second option is ludicrous.