Peralta and Myers traded for Jett Williams and Sproat

[Joseph Zarr]

3 hours ago, adambr2 said:

It didn’t last for the long haul, but 2005 and 2006 Bill Hall was the gold standard for “utility player”.

 

[Jopal78]

47 minutes ago, liveforoctober said:

What was the position of need you were hoping for and who was the player you were targeting that is obviously better than the guy we currently have in place & therefore worthy of losing Peralta?

Mickey Mantle. None of us are privy to what they were offered or by whom or even what teams were truly interested..

If the implication in your question is: this return was the best they were going to do, then making their division winning roster from 2025 worse in the short run for “potential“ gains in the future is a risky move, and perhaps they should have held on to Peralta for awhile longer. But like I said, the Brewers seem to know what they’re doing so they’re gonna get the benefit of the doubt.

[SeaBass]

1 hour ago, Jopal78 said:

Keyword “potentially”. It’s fine, they got 2 players they really like for their best trade chip They’re not going to say anything other than how excited they are. I think objectively it makes the 2026 team less talented, while it potentially makes the 2027 and beyond teams better.

I had hoped they’d get someone for Peralta that was plug and play at a position of need, but the front office seems to know what they’re doing so they get the benefit of the doubt. 

Three words: Service time manipulation.

[liveforoctober]

57 minutes ago, Jopal78 said:

Mickey Mantle. None of us are privy to what they were offered or by whom or even what teams were truly interested..

If the implication in your question is: this return was the best they were going to do, then making their division winning roster from 2025 worse in the short run for “potential“ gains in the future is a risky move, and perhaps they should have held on to Peralta for awhile longer. But like I said, the Brewers seem to know what they’re doing so they’re gonna get the benefit of the doubt.

I wasn't trying to be smart with my question, it's a legitimate thinking exercise. None of us know anything but there are some decent assumptions to work off of IMHO.

The teams looking to acquire Peralta were already limited, right? Very unlikely a rebuilding team is going to trade for one year of Peralta. They are looking to offload their own vets for youth. So the teams we are trying to trade with are teams hoping to contend in 2026. Of those teams, the only way you are going to pry away a starting caliber player from them is if they have a MLB ready player to backfill that spot because why would a contending team purposely create a hole? (I assume there is a bit more flexibility in that 2nd part because the big spending teams can buy a replacement if one is created, etc - but the premise is still pretty solid IMO.)

So the question remains, if we wanted a starting caliber player at a position of need (I'm assuming we are talking CF, SS, SP?, 3B?) ... which contending team had a guy available to us that 1) was an obvious upgrade to our current situation and worth losing Peralta over and/or 2) had a capable fill in on their own roster to make our target expandable?

I say this all to more or less say "I wish we had gotten a plug n play guy at a position of need" is a good thought but looking at the landscape of our trade market ... I think the options available to us that fit that formula were vastly limited? Maybe even non-existent? Which is why I asked, if there are guys out there that this board hasn't collectively identified (of which there were few) ... I'd be interested to hear it to consider.

In my mind, which is often very wrong, we were trading Peralta and getting some kind of prospect haul back in return - because those were the assets that were available to us for him.

 

[Playing Catch]

I think the likeliest scenario is that they are both in Nashville. There is enough depth on the 40-man that they don't HAVE to use them until everyone feels comfortable. I don't think service time considerations are nearly as impactful, malicious, or damaging to the player's career/development, that others do, but I can imagine the organization wanting to stash and store value wherever they can, so no need to start clocks that don't need to be started.

Sproat's already on the 40-man, but it's impossible for me to think he won't spend time a fair amount of time in Nashville, regardless of if he's on the opening day roster, unless he really hits the ground running, but even then, he has 3 options. If they are going to use lots of short-starts, piggy-backs and openers, they'll need guys that can go back and forth.

I think the only way Williams makes the opening day roster is IF...

- He is the near-equal to Monasterio defensively at shortstop (Monasterio is merely fine, so that's possible).
AND
- His bat justifies taking ABs from the lefties in soft platoons (Frelick, Turang, Yelich, Mitchell, Bauers/Black/Siegler), so that he continues to develop.
 

[True Blue Brew Crew]

3 hours ago, Jopal78 said:

Keyword “potentially”. It’s fine, they got 2 players they really like for their best trade chip They’re not going to say anything other than how excited they are. I think objectively it makes the 2026 team less talented, while it potentially makes the 2027 and beyond teams better.

I had hoped they’d get someone for Peralta that was plug and play at a position of need, but the front office seems to know what they’re doing so they get the benefit of the doubt. 

It's not simply talking up two players they happened to get. Many teams were in on Peralta and these were THE 2 players they felt strongest about from multiple offers received. There's no other conclusion to draw other than genuine excitement and belief in the players they CHOSE amongst many choices. Logic dictates that this is one of those situations where your natural pessimism misses the mark.

Given the fact they worked this for months until they were able to pick the offer they felt strongest about from many, renders your skepticism of their genuine excitement ill placed. They're obviously excited about Jett and Sproat as proven by the circumstances of the acquisition. This wasn't a "take what you can get" proposition

[TURBO]

1 hour ago, True Blue Brew Crew said:

It's not simply talking up two players they happened to get. Many teams were in on Peralta and these were THE 2 players they felt strongest about from multiple offers received. There's no other conclusion to draw other than genuine excitement and belief in the players they CHOSE amongst many choices. Logic dictates that this is one of those situations where your natural pessimism misses the mark.

Given the fact they worked this for months until they were able to pick the offer they felt strongest about from many, renders your skepticism of their genuine excitement ill placed. They're obviously excited about Jett and Sproat as proven by the circumstances of the acquisition. This wasn't a "take what you can get" proposition

Well, not defending anyone here, but how do you know we had multiple offers?  I know it was reported that many teams were interested, but that doesn't mean that actual offers were made by other teams.  I would assume that at least one other team probably actually made an offer which included names, but again, we don't know that for sure.

[ErnieRilesBrianGiles]

4 hours ago, liveforoctober said:

So the question remains, if we wanted a starting caliber player at a position of need (I'm assuming we are talking CF, SS, SP?, 3B?) ... which contending team had a guy available to us that 1) was an obvious upgrade to our current situation and worth losing Peralta over and/or 2) had a capable fill in on their own roster to make our target expandable?

Maybe Brett Baty, who apparently could now be on the trading block?

"There could be more moves in the works. Stearns could trade Baty or Vientos perhaps for an outfielder or pitching help." - ESPN, David Schoenfield

[StearnsFTW]

I'll bet an internet quarter that Sproat makes the rotation out of camp.

They may keep him down to cut the variety of pitches, but he's got some Corbin Burnes to him.  And now he's in the best lab around.

He's a big strong arm.  Similar profile to Priester,  but with a spring training. 

I think Sproat could be a steal.

[MNBrew]

On 1/22/2026 at 7:09 AM, OldHeidelberg said:

Count me as one who thinks giving up Myers is a little underrated here. He has had proven MLB success, it would not be shocking if Mets get more WAR out of him than we get out of Sproat. But they weren't giving up 12 years of control for one so I can see why we had to include him. 

I agree on Myers.  If only there was a way to sneak Mears back from KC for nothing and put him in the trade instead of Myers.  Obviously that didn't happen, but Mears is the type of guys I would rather have given up than Myers.

[MNBrew]

On 1/22/2026 at 4:09 PM, brewers888 said:

The Dodgers and their billion dollar payroll aside the reason the Brewers have struggled in the playoffs is the extreme lack of power which is why I would have prefered Baty over Jett. As far as the value is concerned we did far better with Peralta than we did with Burnes a trade I really disliked.

In the playoffs its far harder putting together 3 or more hits to score a run so adding the power of Baty would have filled our needs big time. Nothing against Durbin but I would far prefer seeing Baty as our third baseman. As for adding Myers as basically a throw in I am not a fan at all but I seem to like him far more than Arnold did.  

I like who we got but would've like to see Baty in this deal.  A lot can still happen between now & the trade deadline, which means there still could be other opportunities to acquire Baty (or someone else comparable).

[liveforoctober]

57 minutes ago, ErnieRilesBrianGiles said:

Maybe Brett Baty, who apparently could now be on the trading block?

"There could be more moves in the works. Stearns could trade Baty or Vientos perhaps for an outfielder or pitching help." - ESPN, David Schoenfield

Baty seemed to be the most popular name thrown around pre-trade. I saw a lot of Duran as well but I am not sure that was realistic because it likely would have required prospects as well on our end.

[Oxy]

1 hour ago, Jopal78 said:

Right, and pro sports are copy cat leagues. If the Brewers had some sort of culture which was known to give them an edge, teams would identify someone who is a part of that culture, hire them away to build their own culture for a new team. It happens all the time, other teams catch up and you have to find the next angle for that edge. 

If you were REALLY good at developing 17-25 year old pitchers, would you rather work for an organization where you get to see those guys actually pitch in the majors for the team you work for or would you rather work for a team that signs Roki Sasaki and and Shohei Ohtani and trades away most of their 17-25 year old talent?  I think that is one of the hidden benefits of having a quality developmental program--it's nice to see the guys you coach succeed at the MLB level for the organization that you work for.  Obviously, the pay has to be "competitive".

[Playing Catch]

Regarding the club's decision to seemingly make the 2026 team, or pitching-staff, weaker after this trade...

In order to develop guys like Freddy Peralta, they have to play. And if they're really good, they need to play early.

I just wonder if the org felt they really needed to commit innings to the younger, deeper guys in the rotation this season. They need to continue to develop at the big-league level, and they can only do that if they play. Misiorowski, Priester, Patrick, Henderson, (Zerpa?) all need to pitch, but so do Sproat and Gasser, and Coleman Crow and Carlos Rodriguez.

And who knows, maybe even those deeper-depth guys at AAA (Brett Wichrowski, Tate Keuhner, and KC Hunt) and AA (an absolutely loaded staff), may themselves need to be pushed in order to develop, or they are closer to big-league ready than we typically imagine for that set of guys.

[Tedaldtada]

1 hour ago, Playing Catch said:

Regarding the club's decision to seemingly make the 2026 team, or pitching-staff, weaker after this trade...

In order to develop guys like Freddy Peralta, they have to play. And if they're really good, they need to play early.

I just wonder if the org felt they really needed to commit innings to the younger, deeper guys in the rotation this season. They need to continue to develop at the big-league level, and they can only do that if they play. Misiorowski, Priester, Patrick, Henderson, (Zerpa?) all need to pitch, but so do Sproat and Gasser, and Coleman Crow and Carlos Rodriguez.

And who knows, maybe even those deeper-depth guys at AAA (Brett Wichrowski, Tate Keuhner, and KC Hunt) and AA (an absolutely loaded staff), may themselves need to be pushed in order to develop, or they are closer to big-league ready than we typically imagine for that set of guys.

It’s part of the Brewers ethos to push their players aggressively yet methodically. And these days, some teams, including the Brewers, use about 3 dozen pitchers each season. I wouldn’t be the least bit surprised if every name you listed sees BL innings health permitting. 

[Ewitkows1]

Anyone else think we picked up Jett to trade him for someone else? With Pratt/made and Pena it's going to be hard to find a spot for him on the big league roster.

[markedman5]

39 minutes ago, Ewitkows1 said:

Anyone else think we picked up Jett to trade him for someone else? With Pratt/made and Pena it's going to be hard to find a spot for him on the big league roster.

No …..I think he will play for us this year.

Now what happens 2 or 3 years from now it’s hard to say…..but they didn’t acquire him to flip him right away…….imo

[liveforoctober]

4 hours ago, Ewitkows1 said:

Anyone else think we picked up Jett to trade him for someone else? With Pratt/made and Pena it's going to be hard to find a spot for him on the big league roster.

Anything is possible but he instantly becomes the best position prospect in our system that can help us Day 1. I can't imagine him getting dealt. If anything I would say this makes Pratt available.

Best case scenario for both Pratt and Made are late season call ups... but Jett just needs a good camp and he is probably on the OD roster and getting 3+ starts a week all over.

[Roderick]

On 1/23/2026 at 10:42 AM, liveforoctober said:

I just have two thoughts on this. I'm partially agreeing with you...

1) and it would not surprise me if the Brewers move fully into a super piggybacked rotation. It worked so well with Priester last year and every one of our current starters has a hint of a reason to be 'protected' (injury past, moderate workload limits, etc). So if Arnold announced he wanted a pool of 8-10 guys on the MLB roster who can start games and go multiple innings it wouldn't shock me at all. Trading assets to get a 4th lefty in the pen (Hall, Ashby, Zerpa, Koenig) probably isn't a coincidence either. We have great piggyback pen options right now.

Not enough pitching roster slots allowed by MLB.  Plus, you would have to have buy-in from Murphy, as he would usually curtail the Priester piggyback for the usual 7-8-9 innings relievers.  You have to let the starter and piggybacker go longer if they are having an efficient game.  So you can save on the back-end reliever usage.

[Turning2]

15 hours ago, Ewitkows1 said:

Anyone else think we picked up Jett to trade him for someone else? With Pratt/made and Pena it's going to be hard to find a spot for him on the big league roster.

That was my initial thought. But I suspect that it is a pipedream. 

[Turning2]

On 1/23/2026 at 2:15 PM, liveforoctober said:

 So the teams we are trying to trade with are teams hoping to contend in 2026. Of those teams, the only way you are going to pry away a starting caliber player from them is if they have a MLB ready player to backfill that spot because why would a contending team purposely create a hole?

So the question remains, if we wanted a starting caliber player at a position of need (I'm assuming we are talking CF, SS, SP?, 3B?) ... which contending team had a guy available to us that 1) was an obvious upgrade to our current situation and worth losing Peralta over and/or 2) had a capable fill in on their own roster to make our target expandable?

That all sounds like Duran. I know I've been a broken record about him, but he matches every criterion you laid out. 

I'll add, JD wasn't even on my radar until somebody here, (maybe even Brock?), suggested him. I wasn't impressed by his numbers initially. But further consideration changed my mind. He's not, nor would become the power bat they need. Based on his past proven (rather than prospective) talent, he would be a very good upgrade, and a feasible acquisition. Alas, it's not to be. Maybe Jett can become a smaller, faster version of Duran. 

 

[CheezWizHed]

No, I don't think Jett was picked up for a second trade and I don't see many "blockages" for a few reasons:

1. I think he potentially could do exactly what Durbin did last year... Start at AAA and jump to MLB if Ortiz continues to struggle.  He and Turang would swap if you have SS concerns with him.  
2. Pratt's bat isn't a lock for MLB and he still needs to prove himself at AA/AAA. 
3. If Jett can play CF, the field opens up quite a bit for him.  Not much in the pipeline for CF (save for defensive players with light hitting ratings - Perkins can be included there too) and Mitchell is so injury prone that you can't count on him lasting terribly long (until he actually does it). 
4. Pena seems unlikely to be a regular SS at the MLB level (not at Brewer Defensive expectations at least), but that is generally how the Brewers fill 3B/SS/2B... draft SS and move them off if they can't play there. 
5. Will the Brewers sign Turang long term or trade him? 
6. Having too many good SS is a great problem to have. 

[MVP2110]

 

 

[brewcrewdue80]

On 1/29/2026 at 6:25 PM, MVP2110 said:

 

 

"with the Brewers to trade for Peralta with a Ritchie-centered package"

 

Interesting that both Sproat and Ritchie had just over 140IP last season.

I think Sproat seems higher upside and we got away with a better deal. Maybe saying to Mets Atlanta is l-l this close to getting Freddy, that Stearns jumped in his commitment to see that didnt happen.

[Playing Catch]

21 minutes ago, brewcrewdue80 said:

"with the Brewers to trade for Peralta with a Ritchie-centered package"

 

Interesting that both Sproat and Ritchie had just over 140IP last season.

I think Sproat seems higher upside and we got away with a better deal. Maybe saying to Mets Atlanta is l-l this close to getting Freddy, that Stearns jumped in his commitment to see that didnt happen.

It just looks to me like the Mets were willing to do a trade w/o a guarantee of an extension, and the Braves weren't.