Peralta and Myers traded for Jett Williams and Sproat

[DR28]

19 minutes ago, brewers888 said:

I think Baty should have been the target over Jett. The biggest problem with this lineup is the extreme lack of power and I just don't see Jett hitting for much once he reaches MLB. Baty has big upside with the power we so desperately need.

I am also not a fan of including Myers who I like quite a bit more than the team appears to. We do have to trust Arnold but its hard to see us winning a World Series with a lineup that just completely lacks power other than a couple of guys. For every Altuve there are tons of short  guys who once they reach MLB just don't have the power needed to be big time players.

Agreed, I hope we at least asked for a Baty/Sproat package.

[markedman5]

 

[narwhalattack]

Maybe Jett turns out to be the next Pedroia, but I’m not that optimistic.

[patrickgpe]

i refrained from posting last night. Here are my thoughts.

Mets have to be happy to get an ace and kept Tong and Mclean.

Brewers have to be happy to get a player that can push Ortiz (position of need) and a young controllable arm. He has control issues, but if any organization can fix that, he now plays for them.

I think this is a win/ win 

[markedman5]

15 minutes ago, narwhalattack said:

Maybe Jett turns out to be the next Pedroia, but I’m not that optimistic.

He doesn’t have to be the next Pedroia for this trade to work out well for the Brewers. 
 

Why be optimistic when the alternative is so much fun right?

[patrickgpe]

2 hours ago, DR28 said:

Agreed, I hope we at least asked for a Baty/Sproat package.

Maybe the brewers prioritized Williams because Fischer. That being said, not sure how Pratt, Ortiz and Williams now will all fit together, but thats a good problem to have.

I do think Williams seems more like a Brewer player than Baty. 

[zurch1818]

I'm 6'1" and I stood next to Prince Fielder at Spring Training in 2006.  He was at most 5'10 with spikes on.  I can remember seeing the top of his head.

If they say Williams is 5'-7", I wonder if he is actually shorter than that.  Someone at Spring Training will have to investigate.  Bring a tape measure with you and try not to look conspicuous.  

[rccola42]

Maybe it's just me, but I see Jett having a shot at CF longterm, and I suspect that's why we wanted him. He definitely has the arm and defensive chops for it. I'm not sold on Mitchell ever being a thing, and Perkins is never going to be able to hit.

I think Ortiz gets a lot of runway this season to figure it out, and I'm guessing they see some combination of Pratt/Made as the Ortiz replacement down the road.

[sveumrules]

A range of positive short player outcomes from 2021-25...

5'10" 190 Lindor (3338 PA | 29.8 WAR)
123 wRC+ | +11.2 BSR | +74.1 DEF

5'8" 190 Ramirez (3367 PA | 29.8 WAR)
135 wRC+ | +25.2 BSR | +14.5 DEF

5'10" 180 Mookie (3061 PA | 25.2 WAR)
137 wRC+ | +3.7 BSR | +2.8 DEF 

5'6" 167 Altuve (3028 PA | 22.2 WAR)
135 wRC+ | -0.5 BSR | -9.4 DEF

5'10" 165 Carroll (2086 PA | 17.6 WAR)
126 wRC+ | +35.1 BSR | +1.9 DEF

5'10" 218 Contreras (2510 PA | 16.9 WAR)
123 wRC+ | -12.9 DEF | +24.3 DEF

5'8" 170 Kwan (2589 PA | 15.1 WAR)
112 wRC+ | +11.0 BSR | +13.5 DEF

5'8" 175 Mullins (2799 PA | 15.0 WAR)
109 wRC+ | +14.2 BSR | +7.8 DEF

5'10" 185 Arozarena (3260 PA | 14.5 WAR)
122 wRC+ | -1.7 BSR | -48.9 DEF

5'8" 207 Varsho (2272 PA | 13.3 WAR)
100 wRC+ | +9.3 BSR | +43.6 DEF

5'9" 193 Edman (2379 PA | 12.7 WAR)
93 wRC+ | +18.3 BSR | +45.5 DEF

5'7" 165 Albies (2717 PA | 11.5 WAR)
104 wRC+ | +10.0 BSR | -0.7 DEF

5'10" 200 Kim (2167 PA | 11.2 WAR)
99 wRC+ | +9.1 BSR | +29.7 DEF

5'8" 180 Friedl (1876 PA | 8.1 WAR)
107 wRC+ | +10.5 BSR | -8.7 FLD

[brewmann04]

who Next this season Megill? next season contras ?

[patrickgpe]

from ESPN (https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/46994593/2025-26-mlb-offseason-grades-free-agency-trade-analysis)

 

Brewers grade: B

So why would the Brewers trade Peralta? This is what they do. Peralta's $8 million salary made him especially valuable on the trade market, and they decided to cash in.

Sproat and Williams should both help the Brewers in 2026. Williams, a 5-foot-7 fireplug, to use an old-timey description, is the big get here. In his top 100 prospects update last August, Kiley McDaniel rated Williams No. 18 overall and Sproat No. 83. In Baseball America's just-released top 100, Williams came in at No. 71 and Sproat at No. 81.

Williams hit .261/.363/.465 with 17 home runs and 34 stolen bases, finishing ninth in the minors with 58 extra-base hits -- but he struggled after a promotion to Triple-A, where he hit .209 in 34 games. That helps explain the drop in his overall rankings compared to last August, along with concerns that his power is fringe-average, but he has the arm and range to stick at shortstop and the speed to cover center field.

That skill set will fit in perfectly with the Brewers and he could end up at either position, as a more offensive-minded option than Joey Ortiz at shortstop or as the center fielder, with Jackson Chourio sticking in left field. Although with top prospect Jesus Made climbing through Milwaukee's system, Williams' long-term home could end up being in center field (assuming Made sticks at short). Either way, Williams' versatility looms as a big plus and his on-base ability projects him as a potential leadoff hitter down the road.

Sproat, meanwhile, should battle for a rotation spot right away in Milwaukee after making four starts with the Mets in 2025. Sproat throws 94-96, with a sinker that is more of a ground ball pitch than a swing-and-miss fastball, though his sweeper and curveball both project as strikeout pitches. He needs to fine-tune his command and improve against left-handed batters, but he has middle-of-the rotation upside.

For the Brewers and how they operate, it's a no-brainer type of deal: 12 years of Williams and Sproat for one year of Peralta (plus Myers, who pitched mostly in relief in 2025). You can certainly justify a higher grade, especially if you believe Williams has star potential, but I'm downgrading just a bit here because losing Peralta hurts the Brewers' chances in 2026. For a team that won the most games in the majors in 2025 and has never won a World Series, the priority should be winning a title, not just maintaining success. Trading Peralta makes the Brewers less likely to win a World Series this season. -- Schoenfield

[patrickgpe]

8 minutes ago, brewmann04 said:

who Next this season Megill? next season contras ?

don't see the point in trading Megil. He has 2 years. He makes little. Not sure the return will be large.

Contreras will be gone after this year if there is a 2027 season. 

[Turning2]

5 hours ago, wiguy94 said:

That's absolutely an unrealistic scenario. You're not going to get 3 years of Duran or 4 years of Abreu for 1 year of Freddy Peralta.

No, and that's why there is usually other players involved to balance out the value. If all the farm system hype is to be believed, MIL has too many high quality prospects and not enough room for them all. Put a package together along with Freddy and bring a hitter in. That would have been realistic. 

[markedman5]

 

[Cool Hand Lucroy]

One hope I have here is that it ends the Turang to SS idea, which I hated when it was broached last year in ST and hate just as much now.

Preserving Brice's value at the keystone is a marginal consideration with this deal, but it's still a consideration from where I sit. Chalk it up as a fringe benefit.

[liveforoctober]

24 minutes ago, Turning2 said:

No, and that's why there is usually other players involved to balance out the value. If all the farm system hype is to be believed, MIL has too many high quality prospects and not enough room for them all. Put a package together along with Freddy and bring a hitter in. That would have been realistic. 

So if we are using/believe in BTV's current numbers, Duran is worth approx. 41.9 and Peralta is 26.

The closest 1 person add on to the deal to balance it is Luis Pena (15.1). So Peralta and Pena for Duran.

If you want to puzzle together a set.. it would look something like Peralta (26), Fischer (9.1) and Payne (5.9)

Or 

Peralta (26), Dinges (7.3), Burke (3.5), and Meccage (4.2).

Those are the waters you would be swimming in to get Duran.

[markedman5]

 

[landoc88]

6 hours ago, umphrey said:

Joey O is on notice. Cooper Pratt should be able to spend the full year in AAA (needed IMO).

Get that bum Ortiz off this team 

[LouisEly]

28 minutes ago, landoc88 said:

Get that bum Ortiz off this team 

The bum who was a 2.7 bWAR / 3.2 fWAR player in 2024?  Yeah, total bum.  Nobody ever has a down year.

[tmwiese55]

Who knows how it all shakes out with Jett at SS or OF in the 26 season.  I guess first thing lets hope he's good enough to make MLB this year.   A lot after that will be dictated by injury and performance of the returning guys on where he plays. But we know injuries will happen and rest days are needed. So at the very least as a floor it should massively reduce the ABs of the Dunn/Siegler/Lockridge/Camerons.  Which of course helps the team if he at least somewhat lives up to his prospect status.  

Don't think I've seen info on how his CF/OF D is?  Basically, assuming Mitchell gets hurt will they consider him good enough at D to play him or is he an automatic no go for the Brewers standards? Especially with Perkins gold glove sitting there

[brewers888]

The Dodgers and their billion dollar payroll aside the reason the Brewers have struggled in the playoffs is the extreme lack of power which is why I would have prefered Baty over Jett. As far as the value is concerned we did far better with Peralta than we did with Burnes a trade I really disliked.

In the playoffs its far harder putting together 3 or more hits to score a run so adding the power of Baty would have filled our needs big time. Nothing against Durbin but I would far prefer seeing Baty as our third baseman. As for adding Myers as basically a throw in I am not a fan at all but I seem to like him far more than Arnold did.  

[edfunderburk]

POST TRADE PREDICTION:

Chad Patrick will have a better year for the Brewers than Freddy Peralta has for the Mets

POST TRADE QUESTIONS:

Is Jett Williams a candidate to move to CF? If so, how does he project there defensively?

Since the Brewers have several top prospects who play SS - Which ones are projected to stay there & which ones are likely to move?

Which middle infield prospects are most likely to become trade candidates (because of redundancy)?

 

[markedman5]

Arnold talked about his versatility as being a perfect fit for the Brewers……if he makes the team(Arnold said both players will have a shot to win jobs in spring training) I think you will see him play in both the outfield and the infield.

[Jim French Stepstool]

4 hours ago, rccola42 said:

Maybe it's just me, but I see Jett having a shot at CF longterm, and I suspect that's why we wanted him. He definitely has the arm and defensive chops for it. I'm not sold on Mitchell ever being a thing, and Perkins is never going to be able to hit.

I think Ortiz gets a lot of runway this season to figure it out, and I'm guessing they see some combination of Pratt/Made as the Ortiz replacement down the road.

Yeah, I haven't read every post so maybe I missed something but seems to me there's an overload of thought that Williams is being looked at as a SS. As an option there sometime in 2026, maybe. But the positional versatility he has (not to mention Made & Pratt) makes me think his future in Milwaukee is either in CF, or 2B if/when it comes time to look into moving Turang for young'uns.

Also, if we're healthy going into opening day I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if he starts out in Nashville.

[gregmag]

2 hours ago, liveforoctober said:

So if we are using/believe in BTV's current numbers, Duran is worth approx. 41.9 and Peralta is 26.

The closest 1 person add on to the deal to balance it is Luis Pena (15.1). So Peralta and Pena for Duran.

If you want to puzzle together a set.. it would look something like Peralta (26), Fischer (9.1) and Payne (5.9)

Or 

Peralta (26), Dinges (7.3), Burke (3.5), and Meccage (4.2).

Those are the waters you would be swimming in to get Duran.

I would add that even those scenarios assume that Boston would want to trade a key vet hitter to get a key vet pitcher, which isn’t impossible but doesn’t make a lot of intuitive sense. Teams that trade for key veterans want to be seen as “going for it,” which is why they usually trade prospects, not vets, to get vets. 
 

Anyway, the line of discussion you’re ably responding to strikes me as pointless. I remember a decade ago when the Brewers traded arguably their best hitter from the prior season, an Established Big League Power Bat, for three A-ball prospects — the exact opposite of the kind of move some folks here want the team to make now. The vet, Adam Lind, got old and never did squat again. One of the prospects — “which are exactly that, prospects,” we hear over and over, and are therefore inconsequential— was Freddy Peralta.