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1 minute ago, wiguy94 said:

The Brewers would qualify for both of those so that makes the original comment inaccurate, no?

They didn't have a 4-1 record in 2025.

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Just now, Team Canada said:

They didn't have a 4-1 record in 2025.

Wow my brain is not functioning today lol

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2 minutes ago, Team Canada said:

In a vacuum you may be right. But give the amount of stud IF prospects we have right now, it's a lot less likely. Also, it's 4 years away, so lots could happen between now and then.

Plus I suspect there's a pretty good chance they made an offer at some point.  I just think the odds of a deal now are basically gone.  Same with Contreras in all likelihood.  I certainly hope both were given offers at some point but with the Brewers approach to budgeting and publicly declaring they lost 20 million on the TV deal this year I just don't see it happening.

There's also the small possibility with Turang (and even Contreras) that if the upcoming lockout next year results in broader revenue sharing and a cap (or more likely, something they don't call a cap but has the same effect) that the Brewers hope to be in a position to make another run at him with a deeper pool of resources.

And I guess I'm not 100% convinced that Turang is going out the door all that soon the more I think about it.  Yes the organizational infield depth looks insanely good right now.  But it's inevitable that someone is going to get hurt and miss time.  It's inevitable that someone's going to level off (my bet is that Pena turns out to be a slower developer at the upper levels than we first hoped.)  Turang still has 3 years of arb left, barring a reduction in years of control under any new CBA.  I suspect he'll be a Brewer into 2028 at least. 

Really going to be interesting watching the Brewers manage their organizational infield depth the next 24 months.  They already did something I really didn't expect by extending Pratt.

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7 minutes ago, wiguy94 said:

NVM I'm and idiot lol

Please.. no name calling! 😏

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46 minutes ago, Bulldogboy said:

The amount of well Turang is going to be gone talk is so frustrating.

Your comment “Insane if true. Meanwhile Turang is going to get away” is literally thee very first one on the Pratt extension thread.

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1 minute ago, BarremlensTSSC said:

Plus I suspect there's a pretty good chance they made an offer at some point.  I just think the odds of a deal now are basically gone.  Same with Contreras in all likelihood.  I certainly hope both were given offers at some point but with the Brewers approach to budgeting and publicly declaring they lost 20 million on the TV deal this year I just don't see it happening.

There's also the small possibility with Turang (and even Contreras) that if the upcoming lockout next year results in broader revenue sharing and a cap (or more likely, something they don't call a cap but has the same effect) that the Brewers hope to be in a position to make another run at him with a deeper pool of resources.

And I guess I'm not 100% convinced that Turang is going out the door all that soon the more I think about it.  Yes the organizational infield depth looks insanely good right now.  But it's inevitable that someone is going to get hurt and miss time.  It's inevitable that someone's going to level off (my bet is that Pena turns out to be a slower developer at the upper levels than we first hoped.)  Turang still has 3 years of arb left, barring a reduction in years of control under any new CBA.  I suspect he'll be a Brewer into 2028 at least. 

Really going to be interesting watching the Brewers manage their organizational infield depth the next 24 months.  They already did something I really didn't expect by extending Pratt.

All true but it still begs to ask why pay Woody 20 million and why give Pratt 50 million sight unseen? Things just seem very random. 

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Just now, Bulldogboy said:

All true but it still begs to ask why pay Woody 20 million and why give Pratt 50 million sight unseen? Things just seem very random. 

I'm pretty sure the Brewers knew a lot about Woody and Pratt before giving them the money.  

Just because us fans are ignorant of the details doesn't mean the front office is in the same situation.... 

"Rock, sometime, when the team is up against it, and the breaks are beating the boys, tell 'em to go out there with all they got and win just one for the Uecker. I don't know where I'll be then, Rock but I'll know about it; and I'll be happy."

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Seymour has faced 6 hitters this series and all 6 were lefties. What are we even doing here, Murph?

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3 minutes ago, sveumrules said:

Your comment “Insane if true. Meanwhile Turang is going to get away” is literally thee very first one on the Pratt extension thread.

My point was paying Pratt at the expense of trying to sign Turang is insane. Not hard to understand but you take it however you like. 

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Just now, Bulldogboy said:

My point was paying Pratt at the expense of trying to sign Turang is insane. Not hard to understand but you take it however you like. 

Pratt's entire contract would barely buy one year of Turang. Bo Bichette is getting $42M/year. 

Why would we extend a guy into his 30s? That would be insane. 

Personally I would give Turang the Peralta treatment. He'll peak at age 28 in 2028 and I don't know that we will need to pay arbitration for his age 29 year based on how many infield prospects we have. 

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If we could buy out Turang's arbitration and a year or two of FA, I'd do that.  The Brewers should always, ALWAYS try to get good players on good contracts.  Doesn't matter how many or their position.  Trades happen and players on good contracts are great trade chips. 

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10 minutes ago, Bulldogboy said:

My point was paying Pratt at the expense of trying to sign Turang is insane. Not hard to understand but you take it however you like. 

If Milwaukee already controls Turang’s best years of his career, why would we want Turang when he is 35 years old? I always struggled to understand why we want expensive aging veterans, speaking in the future tense for Turang.

I get the idea of buying out one or two years of free agency, but at this point it will probably be too expensive, which is fine. If we have a steady stream of infield prospects, we shouldn’t want hundred million dollar infielders.

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Seymour did not get countered ONE time of the 9 hitters he faced this series. He faced 8 lefties and a switch hitter. Not one natural righty. Naturally, he mowed them all down.

Come on with the lineup construction here.

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I know its early, small sample, etc so its not like I'm freaking out or anything.  And I know Murphy has made a public bet on Hamilton being this breakout guy, but so far I'd rather be giving Rengifo these ABs and hoping he bounces back.     that said, Hamilton has looekd good on D and I just checked and the splits have Rengifo better as a RHH, so I'm sure they're going to let this go for a while yet.   But Hamilton is giving some Dunn/Sigler type vibes to me where we're hoping them to be more than they are capable of

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3 minutes ago, adambr2 said:

Seymour did not get countered ONE time of the 9 hitters he faced this series. He faced 8 lefties and a switch hitter. Not one natural righty. Naturally, he mowed them all down.

Come on with the lineup construction here.

I caught the end of it, but I thought on TV they said he was a reverse splits guy?   I could've easily misheard it 

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8 minutes ago, Bulldogboy said:

My point was paying Pratt at the expense of trying to sign Turang is insane. Not hard to understand but you take it however you like. 

I took it as you contributing to the Turang is going to be gone talk you find so frustrating.

After Hoerner’s $141M extension the cost to extend Turang is probably over $100M greater than the $50M that Pratt just got.

One doesn’t necessarily preclude the other, they still have four years to try and sign Turang.

Locking in Pratt early at a potential bargain could even give them flexibility down the road to pay Turang FA rates into his thirties depending how each player continues to develop in the interim, what kind of changes are made in the new CBA, etc

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1 minute ago, sveumrules said:

I took it as you contributing to the Turang is going to be gone talk you find so frustrating.

After Hoerner’s $141M extension the cost to extend Turang is probably over $100M greater than the $50M that Pratt just got.

One doesn’t necessarily preclude the other, they still have four years to try and sign Turang.

Locking in Pratt early at a potential bargain could even give them flexibility down the road to pay Turang FA rates into his thirties depending how each player continues to develop in the interim, what kind of changes are made in the new CBA, etc

Turang could be one of those scenarios (like Adames) where we hold him to the very end, have (hopefully) four more playoff runs with him, and then take the pick...

That said, as you just mentioned, beyond Chourio, we don't have other long-term contracts...  in a couple years Yelich falls off...  if Made/Pratt are starting to make an impact at the big league level (hopefully we can figure out 1B), and our pitching is starting to gel for a "go for it" type stretch, it will likely be ideal to keep some stability in place with Turang, Frelick, etc...  So even if we're paying Turang $25/per and Frelick $15/per, with some of the younger players locked up (Jackson, Pratt, maybe Made) things could work out...

3-4 years down the line, our pitchers (if they pan out) will start hitting Arby (Miz, Patrick, Priester, Harrison), so that might make 2028-2031 or so our "window", before we re-load again 

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