Tarik Skubal

[Klantz27]

8 hours ago, brewerfan82 said:

If the last year and a half are down/awful years/the floor for Henderson (25 years old, FA in 2029) and Holliday (22 years old, FA in 2031 or 32?), then sign me up.

2025-26:

I think it'd probably cost more than it's worth for us considering all the infield talent we already have, but I would be pretty confident in them providing a boost the rest of the season and beyond if they were acquired.

And at only 25 years old, I suspect Gunnar has a good chance of finding his 2023-24 success again:

I could care less what his stats are including half of last year lmao his stats this year is 95 wrc + below league average hitter with 1.2 war ortiz has same war u gonna trade made for a guy that broke arbitration 1 salary record and gonna shoot for the same thing his next arb years all the while he isn't even a league average hitter this year I 100% guarantee milwaukee wouldnt even consider this trade 

[yfinn6]

4 minutes ago, TURBO said:

Miller might cost even MORE than Skubal.

 

For sure. He's under team control for a bit and is making like $4 million this year. Would be a great addition. 

[Klantz27]

11 hours ago, LouisEly said:

 

Made, Pena, Fischer, etc., aren't going to help this year.  Or likely next year either.

I can literally guarantee you made will help next year theres literally probably a 100% chance made gets called up in 27 rather than playing another full year in the minors just no shot that happens unless he completey falls of a cliff infact I wouldnt be surprised at all to see made extended and on opening day roster I bet you thought chourio wasnt ready either 

[LouisEly]

17 hours ago, Klantz27 said:

u think there gonna give him away for free? 

Tell me literally where I said that.

And please use proper English and grammar so that I can understand you.

[TURBO]

1 minute ago, LouisEly said:

Tell me literally where I said that.

And please use proper English and grammar so that I can understand you.

Man, it would be nice to have a board rule where text speak was not allowed.

[Yuni to Retire]

The trade packages being speculated on for Skubal all seem significantly better than what the Brewers got back for Corbin Burnes. Skubal is better than Burnes, but they are pretty good comps. Surprising to see the perceived gulf in value. 

[Brock Beauchamp]

14 minutes ago, Yuni to Retire said:

The trade packages being speculated on for Skubal all seem significantly better than what the Brewers got back for Corbin Burnes. Skubal is better than Burnes, but they are pretty good comps. Surprising to see the perceived gulf in value. 

The deadline is crazy, man. All it takes is one lunatic to vasly overpay.

Also, welcome to BF!

[TURBO]

5 hours ago, Yuni to Retire said:

The trade packages being speculated on for Skubal all seem significantly better than what the Brewers got back for Corbin Burnes. Skubal is better than Burnes, but they are pretty good comps. Surprising to see the perceived gulf in value. 

Great point!

Welcome!

[LouisEly]

I'm wondering if the Brewers can get creative with a trade package for Skubal, where Skubal isn't the only player coming to MKE.

If the Tigers want one of the Brewers young major league starters or a bigger prospect package, maybe DET can include some A-ball/rookie league prospects in return.  Namely, DET has some good catching prospects in Liranzo, Oliveto, or Bolivar.  Or a pitcher such as Kelvis Salcedo or Lucas Elissalt.  Players who won't need to be added to the 40 right away.

Have something coming back such that it isn't for a rental

[Playing Catch]

On 7/24/2026 at 2:40 PM, Yuni to Retire said:

The trade packages being speculated on for Skubal all seem significantly better than what the Brewers got back for Corbin Burnes. Skubal is better than Burnes, but they are pretty good comps. Surprising to see the perceived gulf in value. 

That's kind of what I've been feeling, too. I think it's because the overall perception of Skubal is that he's at the tippy-top tier of starting pitchers, an echelon Burnes hasn't hit. I think it's the same thing with Mason Miller. These guys that are one-of-one demand a premium, oftentimes.

[areacodes]

On 7/24/2026 at 9:40 AM, Yuni to Retire said:

The trade packages being speculated on for Skubal all seem significantly better than what the Brewers got back for Corbin Burnes. Skubal is better than Burnes, but they are pretty good comps. Surprising to see the perceived gulf in value. 

What were the speculated trade packages for Burnes vs what we got?

Speculative and actual are obviously very different things and it’s possible that Skubal could exceed what Burnes got or what is being rumored if a team goes crazy as Brock mentioned.

[wiguy94]

1 hour ago, Playing Catch said:

That's kind of what I've been feeling, too. I think it's because the overall perception of Skubal is that he's at the tippy-top tier of starting pitchers, an echelon Burnes hasn't hit. I think it's the same thing with Mason Miller. These guys that are one-of-one demand a premium, oftentimes.

Burnes hit that level of pitcher in 2021 but he was trending down by the time we traded him.

This was Burnes in the 2 years before the trade - 75 ERA-, 83 FIP-, 79 xFIP-, 21% K-BB

This is Skubal in the last 1.5 years before the trade - 57 ERA-, 60 ERA-, 61 FIP-, 28% K-BB

Burnes peak was in that Skubal range. In 2020 and 2021 Burnes was 55 ERA-, 40 FIP-, 57 xFIP-, 29% K-BB. If Burnes had kept up that level in 2022 and 2023 he would have gotten us a much bigger haul.

[jay87shot]

I think the issue with Skubal is outbidding the Dodgers. They 5 high end OF prospects with Pages, Tucker, Edman for multiple years. They also have pitching depth to trade especially when Snell and Glasnow come back (maybe Ohtani?) Even if we pony up big the Dodgers still could overbid since they dont have need for prospects with the 500 million dollar plus budget.

[JoeyWiemerTruther]

I put this in another thread: I’d be fine dealing Luis Pena in a Skubal deal since they’d have to outbid the Dodgers and others. Would probably need one more top 100/150 guy like Payne, Quero, Ragsdale, etc plus another 1-2 lower level guys. Of Adamczewksi or Fischer is required in addition to Pena that’s too much imo. Jett now off the table unfortunately with his injury it seems. You’d likely need a top 25 level guy like Pena to get Skubal, wouldn’t have to send Made. In order to get Miller, J. Wood and maybe even Abrams, you’d probably have to include Made in any of those deals. Can possibly also get Reid Detmers with Pena as the center piece not Made. And Detmers isn’t a rental. The Angels are rumored to have asked the Brewers for too much for Detmers (probably Made) but maybe their price will come down.

between Pratt and Made long term, plus Turang probably the next 2 years before being traded after 2028 (if no extension) I think the infield is perfectly fine short and long term without Pena. You have those 3, have Ortiz who would be a solid depth IF for next year, and then long term you still have whoever ends up good among both Ebels, Ricki Moneys, Diego Frontado, and Juan Martinez, and others for like 2029ish. Plus, you can get some return for Turang if you trade him after 2028, make a different trade to replenish infield prospects if needed, plus have the next few drafts, which is why I’d be fine dealing Pena.

To get any of the other top guys like Miller, J. Wood and maybe even Abrams, assuming all actually available, you’d have to send Made so not worth it.

[wibadgers23]

A lot of smoke around Skubal today and Passan's mock for the Brewers was Henderson, Adamczewski, and Moneys to the Tigers.

[MilwaukeeBeers]

8 minutes ago, wibadgers23 said:

A lot of smoke around Skubal today and Passan's mock for the Brewers was Henderson, Adamczewski, and Moneys to the Tigers.

I would get banned from this forum if I was able to give my true thoughts on that package for A COUPLE MONTHS of a player. 

[KCBrewerfan34]

Is there anyway we can get Skubal without including Henderson? 

[wibadgers23]

1 minute ago, KCBrewerfan34 said:

Is there anyway we can get Skubal without including Henderson? 

Just a hunch but I'm guessing the Brewers and Tigers have had conversations and Henderson's name was brought up right away and the Brewers balked at that and offered up a different pitcher. That could very well be the sticking point between the two teams right now.

[MilwaukeeBeers]

We shouldn't be shopping for Skubal. It's ridiculous to even think about if that is truly the cost. Everytime I read an article from the media or BSPN it is basically an open letter to Milwaukee's FO with the subtext of trying to coerce them to make a massive overpay. It is a joke. ESPN can rot for what they are. 

[Ron Robinsons Beard]

1 minute ago, MilwaukeeBeers said:

We shouldn't be shopping for Skubal. It's ridiculous to even think about if that is truly the cost. Everytime I read an article from the media or BSPN it is basically an open letter to Milwaukee's FO trying to coerce them to make a massive overpay. It is a joke. ESPN can rot for what they are. 

Yet if it were the Yankees or Dodgers mocked to trade for Skubal, the packages would center around MLB roster fillers and 17-year-old rookie league prospects.

[MilwaukeeBeers]

"Models don't like it, but this isn't the time to listen to them."

Oh yes lets go away from their incredibly successful systematic way of making decisions to appease Jeff Passan. A Joke. 

[owbc]

1 minute ago, MilwaukeeBeers said:

"Models don't like it, but this isn't the time to listen to them."

Oh yes lets go away from their incredibly successful systematic way of making decisions to appease Jeff Passan. A Joke. 

The media can't help it. They heap praise on every big FA signing, no matter how terrible it ends up looking in retrospect. When they assign deadline grades next week, whoever gets the big names will get an "A", it won't matter what they give up from their perspective. 

[wallus]

I wouldn't trade Henderson for Skubal straight up right now. 

[MoreTrife]

Just now, wallus said:

I wouldn't trade Henderson for Skubal straight up right now. 

I don' want to derail this but how does Henderson achieve his success? I'm not knowledgeable enough. I see a low 90s fastball and seemingly very good changeup. I don't recall seeing much else? Is he a two pitch pitcher or is there a cutter in there too?

[Dadbauer]

I'm definitely not a prospect hugger and I am certainly more liberal about moving guys that many here but Henderson, Adamczewski AND Moneys for a rental? I'm sorry, what?

If it were me, you either get Henderson and a risky bat prospect or Adamczewski and a much lower ceiling pitcher. And Moneys is too young and promising as a throw in.