Cohen all but came out and said he’s hiring Stearns

[brewers888]

I have been mocked for saying that Stearns has basically already been hired by the Mets but I will end up being right. Cohen just had a press conference and did everything but actually say he is hiring Stearns after the season. The question I have is Counsell going to join him in New York and will Arnold go there as well.

While I don’t blame Attanasio for Stearns wanting to run his childhood team I wonder if his cheapness is going to chase away Counsell who is a Milwaukee guy and Arnold who I question if we should even want to retain.

I would be happy to move on from this front office altogether and hire either my personal favorite John Hart or Jeff Luhnow but I question whether this owner would spend big for a front office. Attanasio has had a decent run but I would like him to sell to someone with deeper pockets.

 

[markedman5]

Arnold leaving the GM job with the Brewers to be the number 2 behind Stearns seems far fetched.

I won’t be surprised if Stearns takes that job…….I don’t see Cc or Arnold going.

Assuming CC takes a sabbatical…….I think the simplest reason is usually the most accurate……..he will watch his sons play baseball.

Give Arnold a chance…….he’s been the top guy for 1 year. 

 

[nate82]

16 minutes ago, brewers888 said:

Cohen just had a press conference and did everything but actually say he is hiring Stearns after the season.

Yeah no.  He only mentioned they would be hiring a president of baseball operations and that was it.  No mention of candidates or what he would be looking for.  I think Stearns is loving the time off and being with family.  I doubt he comes back after just one year of being off.

There is a reason Hart is not a GM or part of any MLB teams front office.  He cheated the system and won’t be allowed back in.  Luhnow is toxic and won’t be sought after.

Arnold is a really good GM.  

[Brock Beauchamp]

I think Stearns ends up with the Mets. Maybe he wants another year off but Cohen has a way of convincing people to do what he wants (ie. backs a Brinks truck up to their house and dumps money on their lawn).

[patrickgpe]

I think if Counsell wants to manage next year and make a ton of cash he will follow Stearns. I kind of assumed he was going to take a break. He has been doing this since 2015 which is very long. to be on the same team. 

[sveumrules]

1 hour ago, brewers888 said:

I have been mocked for saying that Stearns has basically already been hired by the Mets but I will end up being right.

If the Mets hire David Stearns to be POBO in 2024 does not equal he has basically already been hired by the Mets.

[wiguy94]

1 hour ago, brewers888 said:

I have been mocked for saying that Stearns has basically already been hired by the Mets but I will end up being right. Cohen just had a press conference and did everything but actually say he is hiring Stearns after the season. The question I have is Counsell going to join him in New York and will Arnold go there as well.

While I don’t blame Attanasio for Stearns wanting to run his childhood team I wonder if his cheapness is going to chase away Counsell who is a Milwaukee guy and Arnold who I question if we should even want to retain.

I would be happy to move on from this front office altogether and hire either my personal favorite John Hart or Jeff Luhnow but I question whether this owner would spend big for a front office. Attanasio has had a decent run but I would like him to sell to someone with deeper pockets.

 

No you were mocked for saying Stearns was so focused on being the Mets POBO that he was ruining the Brewers.

[wiguy94]

33 minutes ago, patrickgpe said:

I think if Counsell wants to manage next year and make a ton of cash he will follow Stearns. I kind of assumed he was going to take a break. He has been doing this since 2015 which is very long. to be on the same team. 

If all he cares about is money sure, the Mets future looks like an absolute mess.

Their farm system is nothing special especially on the pitching side and their MLB roster is super old and bloated with some not very good contracts. With the Braves in their division, I don't see the Mets competing for the division for the foreseeable future. Honestly I could see Stearns doing with the Mets what he did with the Brewers when he first got here and doing a quick retool/rebuild.

[Jopal78]

Who cares?!?!

Did Stearns do the Brewers wrong? No.
 

That he might take a job with another MLB club at some point: seems logical since that’s the industry he’s in. 
 

He took the Brewers as far as he could and stepped down to let someone else with different ideas have a go; nothing wrong with that and in fact is probably preferable to someone like Doug Melvin who hung around a bit too long. 

[Brewcrew82]

1 hour ago, sveumrules said:

If the Mets hire David Stearns to be POBO in 2024 does not equal he has basically already been hired by the Mets.

Or that David Stearns was already making moves for the Mets last year while still the Brewers POBO. That's the conspiracy theory for which the poster was rightly mocked. 

[Axman59]

I say there is a 100% chance Stearns will be running baseball operations for the Mets in 2024.

Is this something you can bet on? I'm not much of a gambler but it's not gambling if you know it's going to happen.

[wallus]

A little early to be doing a victory lap are we?

[rickh150]

David Stearns saying no mas to this year coupled by CC not signing an extension are both odd occurrences in the majors. Saying no to the last year of a contract to be a GM in the majors and objecting to an extension to be a MLB manager (yes, I believe one has been offered, maybe more than once) are not good looks. Add in the quietness of Attanasio and the awkward political battle for ballpark funds.
It’s an odd time in Brewers history… Not heart-warming.

[Fear The Chorizo]

Hiring Stearns would likely give the Mets the jump over the Padres on winning the 2023-2024 offseason, something these two clubs have been battling over the past few seasons....get your popcorn ready!

If this is the case, I hope Cohen understands that would mean most of the players currently on the ridiculously expensive Met roster will either be retired or playing elsewhere by the time Opening Day 2025 rolls around - only way a guy like Stearns comes in is if he's given a blank slate to build a MLB roster.  

[brewers888]

14 minutes ago, Fear The Chorizo said:

Hiring Stearns would likely give the Mets the jump over the Padres on winning the 2023-2024 offseason, something these two clubs have been battling over the past few seasons....get your popcorn ready!

If this is the case, I hope Cohen understands that would mean most of the players currently on the ridiculously expensive Met roster will either be retired or playing elsewhere by the time Opening Day 2025 rolls around - only way a guy like Stearns comes in is if he's given a blank slate to build a MLB roster.  

Eppler is supposedly Stearns best friend so I think Stearns is well aware of what moves that team has been making. Eppler the other day was talking about the pitching lab which I am fairly certain he is too stupid to have come up with on his own. Eppler should consider himself very lucky to be employed and maybe even luckier to be Stearns friend because he should not be employed by a major league team considering what a dud he was in Anaheim.

[Pugger]

I almost wonder if Counsell has taken the Crew about as far as he could.  It might not be the worst thing to bring in new blood and fresh ideas to this franchise.  

[brewers888]

I just hope that Counsell and Arnold don't follow Stearns to New York. Counsell leaving his home town team to go to the Mets would really sting. As for Stearns the Mets were his dream job and my guess is he must have been very upset when Attanasio didn't let him go home when he denied Cohen permission to speak to him.

[brewers888]

Just now, Pugger said:

I almost wonder if Counsell has taken the Crew about as far as he could.  It might not be the worst thing to bring in new blood and fresh ideas to this franchise.  

Neither Counsell or anyone else is going to make these guys hit. 

[KeithStone53151]

14 hours ago, Brewcrew82 said:

Or that David Stearns was already making moves for the Mets last year while still the Brewers POBO. That's the conspiracy theory for which the poster was rightly mocked. 

Already making moves is one thing, and almost certainly not happening. But it seems fairly likely that he left the Brewers last year intent on POBO for the Mets in 2024. Maybe there was/is no agreement in place, but both parties have wanted this for a while and if/when Stearns wants to start working again...I expect this will be the outcome.

[Underachiever]

17 hours ago, wiguy94 said:

No you were mocked for saying Stearns was so focused on being the Mets POBO that he was ruining the Brewers.

With more than a hint of a suggestion that Stearns was salting the earth on the way out.

[BrewerFan]

17 hours ago, wiguy94 said:

If all he cares about is money sure, the Mets future looks like an absolute mess.

Their farm system is nothing special especially on the pitching side and their MLB roster is super old and bloated with some not very good contracts. With the Braves in their division, I don't see the Mets competing for the division for the foreseeable future. Honestly I could see Stearns doing with the Mets what he did with the Brewers when he first got here and doing a quick retool/rebuild.

They've actually got quite a bit of young talent...and their contracts really aren't that bad. They have Scherzer and Verlander locked up for another year and 2 years respectively. Most of their contracts outside of Lindor, Diaz and Nimmo are done after this year.

And...who cares? They were going to sign Correa and only didn't because of a medical issue. They'll probably make the biggest offer to Ohtani next off-season. They're not exactly limited because of the bad contracts they do have. 

Cohen may be pissed that he's spending and the team is playing poorly, but as for their farm system, Alvarez was the #1 prospect in baseball last year and he's 21 years old. Batty was top 20 heading into last year, he's 23. They have 4 more top 100 prospects and #5 has been on and off the MLB.com top 100. 

 

I don't see a Brewers re-boot being plausible. If Verlander and Scherzer start throwing better(they haven't been bad) then I guess you could trade a couple of ~40 year old pitchers on short deals if you eat some of it. Beyond that, they're either locked into a player or they are young talented players. 

[areacodes]

1 hour ago, KeithStone53151 said:

Already making moves is one thing, and almost certainly not happening. But it seems fairly likely that he left the Brewers last year intent on POBO for the Mets in 2024. Maybe there was/is no agreement in place, but both parties have wanted this for a while and if/when Stearns wants to start working again...I expect this will be the outcome.

That is absolutely a reasonable take that he left the Brewers with the intention of taking the Mets POBO job.

That isn’t the conspiracy theory that brewers888 has been pushing the last year nor what they are crowing about being right about now.

[brewers888]

43 minutes ago, Underachiever said:

With more than a hint of a suggestion that Stearns was salting the earth on the way out.

Stearns did not do a good job his last year or two with the Brewers and certainly was more than upset that Attanasio didn’t let him out of his contract to go home to his dream job.

[BrewerFan]

1 hour ago, KeithStone53151 said:

Already making moves is one thing, and almost certainly not happening. But it seems fairly likely that he left the Brewers last year intent on POBO for the Mets in 2024. Maybe there was/is no agreement in place, but both parties have wanted this for a while and if/when Stearns wants to start working again...I expect this will be the outcome.

I thought this was the worst hidden secret in Baseball. Stearns, the Mets fan growing up, started out with the Mets, denied multiple times the oppurtunity to interview with the Mets, now free from the Brewers would likely be AGAIN pursued by the Mets.

 

The idea that they're risking pretty substantial penalties by tampering with someone under contract or...what's far more ridiculous, that Stearns would be sabotaging the Brewers and be making moves for the Mets last year is really out there.

I can't imagine anyone being "mocked" because they believed Stearns was destined for the Mets. For the rest, that makes sense.

 

What evidence would there be that he was working on behalf of the Mets? If we'd traded Chourio, Misiorowski, Quero, Frelick and company for Lindor's bloated contract, it might give me cause to question his decisions, but otherwise it's just a bit out there.

[brewers888]

2 minutes ago, BrewerFan said:

I thought this was the worst hidden secret in Baseball. Stearns, the Mets fan growing up, started out with the Mets, denied multiple times the oppurtunity to interview with the Mets, now free from the Brewers would likely be AGAIN pursued by the Mets.

 

The idea that they're risking pretty substantial penalties by tampering with someone under contract or...what's far more ridiculous, that Stearns would be sabotaging the Brewers and be making moves for the Mets last year is really out there.

I can't imagine anyone being "mocked" because they believed Stearns was destined for the Mets. For the rest, that makes sense.

 

What evidence would there be that he was working on behalf of the Mets? If we'd traded Chourio, Misiorowski, Quero, Frelick and company for Lindor's bloated contract, it might give me cause to question his decisions, but otherwise it's just a bit out there.

Considering Cohen has been cited for insider trading it’s not hard to guess that he has had contact with Stearns