Brewers and Chourio: Heyman reports 8 years, $80 million + 2 club option years

[Joseph Zarr]

Chourio Contract: Forest

Trees:

 

[Joseph Zarr]

I still can't believe this jump and get off in RF. Saw it live this past September. Game saving play. 

(Oh hey @wiguy94: that's Mr. Andrews getting another heater absolutely scorched 😪. Boooooo!)

[tmwiese55]

30 minutes ago, True Blue Brew Crew said:

For those who are (strangely) against this, if not now, and for this player, then when?

Yea it ended up better than I thought after reading the estimates in here in the 100-150 mil range.  Add in that it can get to 10 years if he's good and its much better than I thought.   Seems like a no-brainer to me.   Now just have to fend off the pessimism that creeps in any brewers fans head

[Thurston Fluff]

7 minutes ago, patrickgpe said:

Burnes won the cy young his last year before he was eligible for arbitration and he was rewarded with 6.5 million. last year he made 10.1 which is the average of the deal for a kid who has done nothing above double A. I don't hate the move, but there is risk on both sides by doing it. (Chourio leaving money on the table / brewers getting stuck with  a bad deal). 

It's the extra 2 years of control in his prime at $10 million that make this an easy decision. Add in two more team options at a higher rate and this a no brainer. We're getting a potential superstar signed to a deal a throughout his prime that league average players get in free agency. His floor is probably close to league average. He gets to hit free agency at 30 which gives him time to cash in once more. Win, win.

[monty57]

25 minutes ago, wibadgers23 said:

Yeah really a best case scenario in my opinion with the 8 guaranteed years plus two team options, even if those options are pricey. This is a great day.

I don't want to be the "start talking about trading him before the ink's even dry" guy, but if the options are too pricey for the Brewers, they will still allow the Brewers to hold him for the entire eight-year contract, and then trade him for a haul to a team that would love to pay him for those two years.

In essence, they effectively give the Brewers more time with him on the roster whether they are the ones who exercise the options or it's someone else.

[Fear The Chorizo]

Wishing Mark A wouldn't be so cheap and signed him for over $100M for those first 8 years

[homer]

13 minutes ago, tmwiese55 said:

Yea it ended up better than I thought after reading the estimates in here in the 100-150 mil range.  Add in that it can get to 10 years if he's good and its much better than I thought.   Seems like a no-brainer to me.   Now just have to fend off the pessimism that creeps in any brewers fans head

I think long-term this is fantastic but setting realistic expectations for 2024 is ok. I'll be happy with 700+ OPS. 

[tmwiese55]

For sure.  I think everyone has to go into this year with realistic expectations.  Basically just be a competent starter this year at such a young age is all I'm expecting, anything more is a bonus.  We should not go into it expecting he's young Trout immediately.

 

[brewcrewdue80]

Best Brewers news ever day(until they win WS)  options to year 10.  Don't care if they are 25+M. Up to 32 I imagine by then and Chourio prime, would be picked up. 

So Roy is a draft pick. I seen mention top 3 in MVP voting during the pre-arb years would net a draft pick? Can we see multiple? Or just 1 time thing?  Chourio for MVP 2025&2026!

[Redd Vencher]

12 minutes ago, brewcrewdue80 said:

Best Brewers news ever day(until they win WS)  options to year 10.  Don't care if they are 25+M. Up to 32 I imagine by then and Chourio prime, would be picked up. 

So Roy is a draft pick. I seen mention top 3 in MVP voting during the pre-arb years would net a draft pick? Can we see multiple? Or just 1 time thing?  Chourio for MVP 2025&2026!

Players are only eligible for 1 PPI draft pick in their career.

[shanedog19]

Love love love this move. Now let's see Chourio evolve into the next Ronald Acuna Jr and this will be the best move in franchise history!

[torts]

Mark A, I know you're lurking, just wanna say THANK YOU!

[markedman5]

Yelich isn’t moving down to 5 or 6 in the order and he shouldn’t.

I fully expect 1 of our young outfielders to be included in a trade this winter.

No idea who.

[markedman5]

On 11/28/2023 at 11:52 PM, sveumrules said:

Victor Robles hit 34 HR in 1,810 minor league PAs. one HR per every 53.24 PAs.

Chourio has 47 HR in 1,211 minor league PAs, one HR per every 25.77 PAs.

 

But other than that “ tiny difference “ in power……they are exactly the same……😎

[Playing Catch]

So baseball-wise, the worst-case scenario is that you have a cost-controlled $10M annual speedy CF who has a low average (.220) with power to all fields (15 HRs) and some stolen base ability. That's not too bad. I don't really think that his bust potential would be lower than this outcome regardless the fact prospects aren't guarantees.

Obviously a best-case scenario would be more like Acuna, where the rest of the league envies the player and contract.

I really love the 2 team options. As others have stated, that's the potential equivalent of signing the best FA for only a 2 year deal. I wonder what the buyout(s) are worth.

[Ron Robinsons Beard]

3 minutes ago, markedman5 said:

But other than that “ tiny difference “ in power……they are exactly the same……😎

Robles is such an odd case. His 2019 numbers as a 22-year-old indicated that he would be a future star. But that production just kinda evaporated. 

[Lathund]

12 hours ago, wallus said:

Automatic bans for mentioning Hiura. What say you Bfan?

Automatic ban for the many posters who consistently spell his name "Huira"

[Playing Catch]

4 minutes ago, Ron Robinsons Beard said:

Robles is such an odd case. His 2019 numbers as a 22-year-old indicated that he would be a future star. But that production just kinda evaporated. 

It looks like his struggles against righties was what doomed Robles. In the last two seasons, Chourio had, wait for it... reverse splits.

[DR28]

17 minutes ago, markedman5 said:

Yelich isn’t moving down to 5 or 6 in the order and he shouldn’t.

I fully expect 1 of our young outfielders to be included in a trade this winter.

No idea who.

Agreed... Run with Yelich, Chourio 1/2 and watch this offense take off!

Get us a power bat like Hoskins!

[owbc]

2 minutes ago, DR28 said:

Agreed... Run with Yelich, Chourio 1/2 and watch this offense take off!

Get us a power bat like Hoskins!

One comparison worth noting is that Julio Rodriguez struggled in the leadoff spot in 2023 and moving him down helped get him out of his slump -- the argument was that he gets to watch a couple other guys face the opposing pitcher first instead of having to be the first one up. So I think having Chourio standing there in the on deck circle watching Yelich do his thing is the right move. 

[wallus]

Happy to see this got done. This is setting up a rebuild/retool offseason perfectly, let the kids play and get their experience in 2024.

[nate82]

21 minutes ago, Lathund said:

Automatic ban for the many posters who consistently spell his name "Huira"

You can add "Weimer" to that list but then there would be no one on this board.

[brewcrewdue80]

Imagine having a manager just put the better hitters in a slot and not platoon the SP that day with the newest version of that days lineup. Black-Yelich-Chourio-Contreras-OF-OF on down to Turang 9th.

[SRB]

I'm guessing the two option years will be a fairly high AAV, but still this a rare move that should be beyond criticism for any Brewer fan 😂

Yes, there's a higher risk of total flameout than with an established free agent, but the upside is enormous and 2-4 extra years of a potential superstar is something that the Brewers franchise simply could not get on the open market otherwise (without overpaying for an existing player like with the Yelich extension). And while there is some downside if he flames out, he doesn't even need to be that good to justify a $10 million AAV. Wiemer was worth more than that last season.

Also, maybe $80 million guaranteed sounds like a lot, but if Chourio is in the majors at all for 6+ years and is halfway decent he would be earning a significant portion of that through arbitration anyway.

[wibadgers23]

Black and Chourio in the opening day lineup will be quite enjoyable.