2024 NFL Draft - Packers Focused

[Joseph Zarr]

 

[BrewerFan]

1 minute ago, Joseph Zarr said:

Hey, I was #TeamTrenches...

SO, I am all aboard this pick. 

I've been screaming for an OL and...this just wasn't who I was expected. 

[Joseph Zarr]

2 minutes ago, BrewerFan said:

I've been screaming for an OL and...this just wasn't who I was expected. 

I think, in general, I live in a world where:

"Huh...at least it's not Khyri Thornton?!?"

I hear you. BUT, Morgan has genuinely been considered in the 25-40 range the entire process. It is NOT a reach. This is a very talented dancing bear.

[BrewerFan]

Baltimore fans banging the drums for DeJean...they have Marcus Williams and Kyle Hamilton, so not sure that's a great fit. 

 

Dallas moves back and picks up a 3rd...now I REALLY have to think they go Guyton here...they like taking OL in Rd1 and they don't mind developing them. Tyron Smith is gone?

Then again, I thought that would be the case as #24. They also need a LB. 

[BrewerFan]

1 minute ago, Joseph Zarr said:

I think, in general, I live in a world where:

"Huh...at least it's not Khyri Thornton?!?"

I hear you. BUT, Morgan has genuinely been considered in the 25-40 range the entire process. It is NOT a reach. This is a very talented dancing bear.

No, it's not a reach or a bad pick at all. 

I'm just saying I liked Guyton more, a guy who I think has a little more upside...and Morgan lost a little luster for me with the combine. But like I said earlier, what the hell do I know? I'm not scouting these guys. I watch some YT clips and look at big boards.

I'm on board with it. I had him in a couple mocks...so good, solid pick.

[Joseph Zarr]

1 minute ago, BrewerFan said:

No, it's not a reach or a bad pick at all. 

I'm just saying I liked Guyton more, a guy who I think has a little more upside...and Morgan lost a little luster for me with the combine. But like I said earlier, what the hell do I know? I'm not scouting these guys. I watch some YT clips and look at big boards.

I'm on board with it. I had him in a couple mocks...so good, solid pick.

Totally. I hear you. Both OT and OG are above 9.25 RAS. Dominant OG RAS score. I personally think this is just getting a dominant dancing bear athlete into the room to see where he, Tom, and Walker land. AND, I still think they take another OL or 2.

[CheezWizHed]

Just now, Joseph Zarr said:

Totally. I hear you. Both OT and OG are above 9.25 RAS. Dominant OG RAS score. I personally think this is just getting a dominant dancing bear athlete into the room to see where he, Tom, and Walker land. AND, I still think they take another OL or 2.

The standard 4th-5th round G/T pick seems like a norm. 

[Joseph Zarr]

1 minute ago, CheezWizHed said:

The standard 4th-5th round G/T pick seems like a norm. 

Absotively. I'd imagine they'll grab another couple Day 3. Time to move to other areas in the near term, I would imagine.

[patrickgpe]

27 minutes ago, CheezWizHed said:

ok.. so do we move up to get Dejean yet?

They have the ammunition to do so, Kool-Aide would be ok too 

[BrewerFan]

5 minutes ago, Joseph Zarr said:

Totally. I hear you. Both OT and OG are above 9.25 RAS. Dominant OG RAS score. I personally think this is just getting a dominant dancing bear athlete into the room to see where he, Tom, and Walker land. AND, I still think they take another OL or 2.

I think they need to get at least 2 more. And there are a ton of guys. Blake Fisher is a guy I really like from ND. Kiran-not gonna try the last name-could play. Coleman from TCU is interesting. Several other OL more than worthy of day 2 picks.

I would think SF would have taken Morgan. So...good stuff. 

Kool-Aid to SF? 

[GAME05]

If the Packers moved up I'm more in favor of Powers-Johnson.

[BrewerFan]

Ok...so Kool-Aid and the gang are still in play. 

Kool-Aid, DeJean, Melton, Sainstril(doesn't meet the "thresholds," but I don't care, great slot and physical). 

[Joseph Zarr]

I gotta say, something I didn't quite understand until tonight:

The Draft Room Bro Hug is a legit component. Those bros are just waiting to flex that back pat and 'pull in' to bump chests. What's the RAS score on that Shanny to Lynch Bro hug on the Pearsall pick?

[BrewerFan]

2 minutes ago, GAME05 said:

If the Packers moved up I'm more in favor of Powers-Johnson.

Yeah...I really want to see depth added to the OL, but I wouldn't love a 2nd OL when we need help in the secondary with this new scheme(and LB).

I also think he'd be there at 41. But I get the logic. You stack that OL...I think they'll just see how it plays out at Center. Tom could move there, Myers is still under contract. I wouldn't move up for a Centr-only prospect.

[BrewerFan]

Bill Belichick on Morgan

"He's a left tackle all the way...he's a good person, good kid, but he's a LEFT TACKLE....you know what the problem is when you don't have at Tackle. I would say there's no way he was getting out of the first round."

 

---Can I just take that from Bill Bellichick the Coach and not the GM to make me feel better!

[Joseph Zarr]

OK, we got the patented Dancing Bear Swiss Army Knife OL. Hey, he's pick 25 SO we know there are going to be ?'s of whether he's an OT or OG. You don't get premium pure OT prospects at 25. BUT, that is definitely a premium Packer profile. FIVE picks tomorrow. STOKED. Absolutely stoked.

And, I like Morgan. I think it was a fine pick and I'm excited to see the OL depth.

[adambr2]

And as expected, the masses of casual Packer fans hate the pick. 

It never ceases to amaze me that every single year, 90% of Packer fans know exactly who we want and need just from googling "Mel Kipers Big Draft Board", and then break out the pitchforks when the team ends up going in a different direction. Only to do it again next year.

Rinse, repeat. 

[Joseph Zarr]

 

Never forget the importance the Packers staff places on the Senior Bowl. Never. That's a LT set-up. Sure seems like there is a plan in place to legitimately move Tom to OC. Walker to RT. #SchemingAfterRoundOne

[JosephC]

With the way it fell, my preference would have been to start making calls at #18 and try to swing a deal using #25 and #88 to move up to get Troy Fautanu.  If I was unable to swing a deal, I would have tried to move back about 10 spots and pick up another third rounder.  If I was stuck at #25, it would have come down to Graham Barton or Nate Wiggins and I would have gone with the very un-glamourous Graham Barton and just stuck him in at right guard and been pretty comfortable with that.  Definitely would have preferred to go down.  Cooper DeJean, Ennis Rakestraw and Jordan Morgan would have been my top wants after a trade down.  I agree with Belichick, Morgan very, very likely would have gone to someone else in round one if the Packers hadn't picked him, so I assume I would miss out on him after a 10 spot trade down.  DeJean and Rakestraw still on the board at the conclusion of round one.

[BrewerFan]

6 minutes ago, adambr2 said:

And as expected, the masses of casual Packer fans hate the pick. 

It never ceases to amaze me that every single year, 90% of Packer fans know exactly who we want and need just from googling "Mel Kipers Big Draft Board", and then break out the pitchforks when the team ends up going in a different direction. Only to do it again next year.

Rinse, repeat. 

LOL...yeah, we talked about this. It's arrogance.

 

I'm pretty confidence about my Football knowledge relative to other NORMAL fans...but it's really arrogant to immediately react to a pick by an organization run as well as this one, one that drafts as well as this one and complain about the pick. Reports(not just by BB, but saying SF loved Morgan) only affirm the idea that Kipers big board doesn't mean anything and Gute's has been pretty damn accurate. 

[adambr2]

I also think it's a pick that the Packers are emphasizing more of a player that they can expect to contribute immediately, rather than someone who developmentally isn't there. Morgan should play a rotational role as a rookie. 

It sounds old school, but a Super Bowl will be won in the trenches. Great offensive linemen are dang expensive. If you can get 4-5 years of a good one on a rookie deal, that helps. 

[homer]

There are so many people out there more knowledgeable than Kiper. He was just first to market.

[Joseph Zarr]

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[Joseph Zarr]

As Gutey says above and as I was suspecting: 

He'll compete at LT, OC, RG, and RT. A classic Packers pick. Competition and versatility. He also very clearly states: He played LT.

I'm suspecting this is their LT and Walker is their RT. Tom is actually their OC. 

More competition on the way.

[BrewerFan]

9 minutes ago, adambr2 said:

I also think it's a pick that the Packers are emphasizing more of a player that they can expect to contribute immediately, rather than someone who developmentally isn't there. Morgan should play a rotational role as a rookie. 

It sounds old school, but a Super Bowl will be won in the trenches. Great offensive linemen are dang expensive. If you can get 4-5 years of a good one on a rookie deal, that helps. 

Yeah...I guess it sounds old school, but unlike other sayings like "offense wins games, defense wins Championships," it's still true.

You control the LOS with a really good OL and a really good DL, there's a floor to how bad you can be. You're going to be competitive if you can protect your QB and get after the passer/stop the run.

I don't think they took Morgan over say...Guyton because he's more NFL ready. I don't think that's how they approach the draft. You may be right, maybe they think he's a near lock to start at OG(which was a huge hole) and he has potential as a starting OT.

My guess would be they thought Morgan and Guyton had similar upside, but that Morgan had a higher floor and more certainty with his position versatility.