2024 NFL Draft - Packers Focused

[Joseph Zarr]

More from Mike Wahle. Good stuff. "Just a football player". Great bend. Great hips. Great athlete. HAS to work on hand placement.

 

[Playing Catch]

Great pass blockers that aren't 6'9", 370# with super long arms and don't have tons of pancakes on film are boring. But if he's the best pass blocker, that's the right pick.

[Oxy]

On 4/12/2024 at 2:14 PM, Oxy said:

My prediction is that Gutey trades up and nabs a guy high on their list but with a top 50-75ish grade by everybody else at a position of questionable need.  This will be doubly annoying when somebody who was supposed to be picked in the top 15 will fall to 25 and maybe further.

The annoyance will last for a few weeks.  Once mini-camp get underway it will be an afterthought...and by the second preseason game it will be completely forgotten as the depth chart has little to nothing to do with draft order.

The Packers will win the division with a combination of high picks, low picks, not-even-picked, and scrap heap waiver claims/signings off other teams practice squads.

Other than the trade up part...and Morgan isn't "low" ranked per se...still...I like my take.

[young guns]

7 hours ago, Joseph Zarr said:

I gotta say, something I didn't quite understand until tonight:

The Draft Room Bro Hug is a legit component. Those bros are just waiting to flex that back pat and 'pull in' to bump chests. What's the RAS score on that Shanny to Lynch Bro hug on the Pearsall pick?

I mentioned to a friend last night I don't really understand it after the first pick.  Like you had months to think this through and it's not like you're happy "your guy fell to you" at that point.  It's like what are you congratulating yourselves not accidentally saying someone else's name?

[LouisEly]

Gutey said that he thinks that Morgan can play four positions - assuming that OC is the fifth - and likely was the only OL available who he thought could play four positions.  I assume that means that they didn't think that Barton could play OT and/or that Morgan was a lot better at OT.

The more I think about it, the less I am surprised.  Solid pick.  Have OT covered with Walker/Tom/Morgan with the odd man out competing with Rhyan for RG and Myers/Tom have OC covered.  Don't need to dip back into OL until day 3 to grab another depth piece or two, so can focus on S, LB, CB, RB on day 2.  Can make a move up to get DeJean and then see who among Cooper/Wilson/Colson is still there at 58.  GB's 4th can probably get them up to around #36.

[Strike4]

I do get a Brian Bulaga vibe out of Morgan .  If I remember right the popular thought was Bulaga would have to play guard due to short arms also.  I wonder if he got the nod over Barton because they see him as a more viable option at tackle.   
 

Worst case is he upgrades RG while serving as a swing tackle for depth.  It does take the pressure off to find OL depth on day 2 and allows them to focus on S/CB/LB/DL.

 

Either way, with 4 scheduled picks in the next 2 rounds tonight was always  going to be the most important/impressive night of this years draft

[kestrel79]

I'm gonna sit back and trust the Packers front Office when it comes to drafting OL. Overall I think they have hit more than miss over the years. 

Very true OL picks are never exciting or flashy, but a very important part of the team. Give Love time, keep him healthy, let us control the clock by running the ball and big plays off play action.

I'm excited for today lots of picks. It was fun watching the draft on my iPad and following along on this forum. I'm not a hardcore draft person like some of you but it was fun to read along with your insights thanks!

[SeaBass]

Morgan is a very Gutekunst pick. Naturally draft grades by the national "experts" are in the B-/C range. No matter how many times Gute does his own thing and gets praise later people on the outside don't really give much benefit of the doubt to him in the moment.

I was a bit deflated as the Packers finally were on the clock because all of the guys that had unexpectedly stuck around had been taken off the board in the few picks prior to the 25 coming up. I really wanted Mitchell or Arnold. After Mitchell got picked I truly wondered if the Packers would even go with Arnold and when the Lions jumped them I thought even with the Lions taking him I doubt Gute would have if they hadn't. My feelings about them passing on DeJean came true as well.

All said and done, going into the draft and expecting those guys to be long gone anyway I was thinking the Packers would go OL so in the end what I was expecting to happen did happen. I didn't have specific guys in mind I just felt there were going to be a lot of quality options there and they wouldn't pass them up.

Excited to see how tonight unfolds.

[OldHeidelberg]

As always after sobering up and reading more this morning I love the pick. I think they see him as their long term LT and predict he is starting there week one. Like other have said there were better interior guys available. They have their QB now, protecting his blind side should have been a priority and apparently it was. I heard from a friend the Cowboys wanted him too, if so they got too cute trading down. 

At least 3 teams before us today need WR's so Kool Aid or DeJean could be in play for us at #41. I still want DeJean but also don't want them to overpay like they did for Watson.  

    

[patrickgpe]

Morgan was one of the tackles I thought they would take, I never believed the hype of guys like Mims, because that not the type of OL player Gutey takes. I'm OK with it. I wouldn't be shocked if they do what they did 2 years ago and move up at the top of the draft to get a DB

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Jordan Morgan was drafted with pick 25 of round 1 in the 2024 draft class. He scored a 9.24 #RAS out of a possible 10.00. This ranked 105 out of 1377 OT from 1987 to 2024.10 hours ago

[homer]

Falcons are getting roasted. 

[Fear The Chorizo]

3 minutes ago, homer said:

Falcons are getting roasted. 

Very curious pick to say the least - even if it's viewed as the "heir apparent" in a few years given the Cousins signing, Penix will be 24 when this season starts.  Love is just 1 year older and now entering his 4th NFL season.

 

Sounds like Captain Kirk's camp was very befuddled, too.

[homer]

31 minutes ago, Fear The Chorizo said:

Very curious pick to say the least - even if it's viewed as the "heir apparent" in a few years given the Cousins signing, Penix will be 24 when this season starts.  Love is just 1 year older and now entering his 4th NFL season.

 

Sounds like Captain Kirk's camp was very befuddled, too.

They could have taken Odunze and had a legit chance to compete. Maybe not a Super Bowl but playoffs for sure. 

[Playing Catch]

Are there any ramifications to trading Penix after the fact? As in, they called the Raider's bluff and took him because the Raiders wouldn't give up fair draft capital for the pick?

[JosephC]

QB stupidity reaches an all-time high this year.

Last weekend took a bunch of the top prospects lists and put them in a spreadsheet and made a big board out of it.  For example, I took the top 150 listed at CBS Sports, NFL.com, Pro Football Focus and #150 got 1 point and #1 got 150 points.  Took Daniel Jeremiah's top 50, #50 got 1 point and #1 got 50 points.  Lists used were NFL.com, GBN Report, CBS Sports, Jeremiah, Ourlads, Eric Edholm and Pro Football Focus.

Marvin Harrison was #1

#2 = Caleb Williams

#5 = Drake Maye

#6 = Jayden Daniels 

#20 = J.J. McCarthy

#32 = Bo Nix

#33 = Michael Penix Jr.

(Jordan Morgan was #36)

Getting rid of Cousins after the first year of his deal is a 25 million dollar cap hit and getting rid of him after the second year of his deal is a 32.5 million dollar cap savings.  So Cousins is likely playing on a 2 year deal, and the last 90 million of his contract is essentially null-and-void (two 35 million base salaries + two 10 million roster bonuses).  He's probably not that thrilled about it. 

I'm all for taking a QB and giving him a couple years to develop.  But that does not include taking a guy with a very late first/very early second grade and making him a top 10 pick. 

[patrickgpe]

46 minutes ago, homer said:

Falcons are getting roasted. 

GM said Penix could sit 4-5 years. They are truly trying to recreate Jordan Love / Aaron Rodgers

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10118683-falcons-gm-suggests-michael-penix-jr-could-sit-4-or-5-years-behind-kirk-cousins

[patrickgpe]

10 minutes ago, homer said:

They could have taken Odunze and had a legit chance to compete. Maybe not a Super Bowl but playoffs for sure. 

I thought they would go that way, which sucks because the bears were gifted him. 

[OldHeidelberg]

2 minutes ago, Playing Catch said:

Are there any ramifications to trading Penix after the fact? As in, they called the Raider's bluff and took him because the Raiders wouldn't give up fair draft capital for the pick?

It happened with Eli Maning and Rivers but weirdly you hardly ever see that in the NFL.

[homer]

3 minutes ago, patrickgpe said:

GM said Penix could sit 4-5 years. They are truly trying to recreate Jordan Love / Aaron Rodgers

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10118683-falcons-gm-suggests-michael-penix-jr-could-sit-4-or-5-years-behind-kirk-cousins

He's gonna be eligible for Medicare by then.

[patrickgpe]

I know all 3 other North teams had a big night last night, but this is a crazy stat:

 

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The #Packers have 10 picks the next two days (four tomorrow). The rest of the NFC North has 12 picks the next two days (two tomorrow).

 

[JosephC]

3 minutes ago, Playing Catch said:

Are there any ramifications to trading Penix after the fact? As in, they called the Raider's bluff and took him because the Raiders wouldn't give up fair draft capital for the pick?

6 teams needed a QB, the Falcons didn't need a QB but took one, so the Raiders were the 1 out of 6 teams that lost out.  They lost out so bad, that they just had to use that #13 pick on Brock Bowers, who was graded top 10 on every list I looked at other than CBS Sports (where he was #14).

I'd be tickled pink this morning if I was a Raiders fan.  I'm not even a fan of taking TE's high.  But if given the choice between taking a top 10 player at #13 or trading a bunch of picks to take the #32 or #33 player at #8...I'd go with option #1 every time.  Raiders one of the big winners of day one IMO.

Now watch them get hit with an over-night infestation of quarterback madness and trade the rest of their draft to move up to #33 and take Spencer Rattler.  

[homer]

Back to ATL for a sec - BIjan, Pitts, London, Odunze....I mean Uncle Rico could have QB'd that team to the playoffs.

[Fear The Chorizo]

In a draft where teams were burning draft capital chasing hopeful franchise QBs in round 1, it's great having a TON of picks in rounds 2-3.  There's instant starter-quality talent all over the field left on the board - particularly at Packer positions of need.

Pumped for what unfolds tonight in Packerland.

[patrickgpe]

1 minute ago, Fear The Chorizo said:

In a draft where teams were burning draft capital chasing hopeful franchise QBs in round 1, it's great having a TON of picks in rounds 2-3.  There's instant starter-quality talent all over the field left on the board - particularly at Packer positions of need.

Pumped for what unfolds tonight in Packerland.

looking at the re-mocks this AM is pretty crazy. A lot of 1st round talent available. 

[MrTPlush]

27 minutes ago, patrickgpe said:

GM said Penix could sit 4-5 years. They are truly trying to recreate Jordan Love / Aaron Rodgers

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10118683-falcons-gm-suggests-michael-penix-jr-could-sit-4-or-5-years-behind-kirk-cousins

Lets be honest, they picked up Cousins, but Cousins failed to do anything with the Vikings and it was very far from a bad situation. I don't think they are really sold on Cousins. I don't care how much money they gave him. They could definitely give up on Cousins in 2-3 years.