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1 hour ago, Fear The Chorizo said:

People don't realize how effective a pitcher can be that doesn't throw high 90s if he has the right mix of movement and command on multiple pitches and can also change speeds.  And who also can take the ball every 5 days, give a team 7 +ip consistently, and not spend half the time you have him under contract rehabbing from injuries that are primarily caused by excessively high velo.

Logan Webb threw 216 IP over 33 GS last year, 6.5 IP/GS. StatCast said he primarily mixed a change up (41.6% | 87.5 MPH), sinker (33.6% | 92.3 MPH) and slider (21.2% | 84.3 MPH).

That’s probably about as close as it gets to the kind of pitcher you’re describing.

He finished 2nd in NL CY voting and signed a five year $90M extension two years before hitting FA, the 3rd highest AAV ever for a player with his service time.

Zac Gallen probably fit the mold last year too, 34 GS | 210 IP | 6.2 IP/GS with a fastball (49.3% | 93.6 MPH), curve (22.7% | 82.5 MPH), change up (14.0% | 86.8 MPH) and cutter (10.3% | 90.0 MPH) pitch mix. He finished 3rd in NL CY and 5th the year before. He’s getting $10M on his second Arby’s trip.

How about Sonny Gray? 32 GS | 184 IP is a little low on the IP (only 5.75 IP/GS) but has the right pitch mix at fastball (27.2% | 92.9 MPH), slider (20.4% | 84.3%), curve (16.8% | 79.6 MPH), sinker (15.7% | 92.8 MPH), cutter (13.1% | 87.6 MPH) and change up (6.7% | 87.9 MPH). He finished 2nd in AL CY and signed for 3/75 as a 34 year old FA.

Aaron Nola has been this guy for a few years now, 96 GS | 579 IP | 6.0 IP/GS from 2021-23 with a fastball (33.5% | 92.8 MPH), curve (28.4% | 78.8 MPH), sinker (17.2% | 92.0 MPH), change up (15.7% | 85.6 MPH) arsenal. He signed for 7/172 this offseason. 

Those were the first names that popped in my head fitting the general profile, their effectiveness seems to have been appropriately recognized and rewarded.

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On 4/7/2024 at 10:55 AM, MrTPlush said:

Very, I just don’t think people actually realize how incredibly accurate MLB umpires are. Of course 200+ pitches in a game and 95% means 10+ wrong calls. Pretty incredible when most calls called wrong tend to be mere inches (or less) from right.
 

People have this very unreasonable expectation of perfection with umpires. Though I think the inconsistently between two guys and between nights can make it seem worse than it is.

I get where your coming from and can agree with your general premise. 

The exemption to my understanding is Mr Wrong Call Angel H.  He has so many blatantly wrong calls & bad mistakes over the years that he is making a mockery of the profession & his continued employment is a stain upon the rest of the group.

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7 hours ago, MadThinker88 said:

I get where your coming from and can agree with your general premise. 

The exemption to my understanding is Mr Wrong Call Angel H.  He has so many blatantly wrong calls & bad mistakes over the years that he is making a mockery of the profession & his continued employment is a stain upon the rest of the group.

One of the most bothersome things about Angel (and a few others) is the fact they will get a call wrong, double down, and sit on a throne on top of their inflated ego. With Angel, it isn't even behind the plate that is the core issue...dude has been messing up calls for decades all over the diamond. It is unfortunate that the umpires are protected as much as they are.

 

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I hadn't heard about the Cubs loss until the previous post. I am heading to the game thread on Northside Baseball to have a few minutes of enjoyment reading the euphoria of the early lead and subsequent meltdown.

Yes, I'm that petty.

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11 minutes ago, Underachiever said:

I hadn't heard about the Cubs loss until the previous post. I am heading to the game thread on Northside Baseball to have a few minutes of enjoyment reading the euphoria of the early lead and subsequent meltdown.

Yes, I'm that petty.

I'm back. It did not disappoint.

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3 hours ago, trwi7 said:

The Reds came close but only one NL Central team blew an 8-0 lead last night.

 

 

Bud experiencing not having an elite pen, it hurts. 

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Stearns becoming more comfortable in wasting Cohen’s money…..

4 days ago…..signed Julio Teheran for 2.5 million plus incentives 

today.,…. 

 

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53 minutes ago, markedman5 said:

Stearns becoming more comfortable in wasting Cohen’s money…..

4 days ago…..signed Julio Teheran for 2.5 million plus incentives 

today.,…. 

 

Looks like it was a non-guaranteed deal so Mets only paid him $54K for the 4 days he was on the roster 

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1 hour ago, wiguy94 said:

Looks like it was a non-guaranteed deal so Mets only paid him $54K for the 4 days he was on the roster 

Damn…..that Harvard education!

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Jackson Holiday called up from AAA exact day Baltimore gains 1year of Service. Why pretend it's a call up because the other players weren't playing well and just say we gained another year of Jackson with our move.

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11 minutes ago, brewcrewdue80 said:

Jackson Holiday called up from AAA exact day Baltimore gains 1year of Service. Why pretend it's a call up because the other players weren't playing well and just say we gained another year of Jackson with our move.

It would be impolite to openly say you are purposely manipulating service time. At the same time, it is a perfectly understandable strategy.

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8 hours ago, brewcrewdue80 said:

Jackson Holiday called up from AAA exact day Baltimore gains 1year of Service. Why pretend it's a call up because the other players weren't playing well and just say we gained another year of Jackson with our move.

Sure, but at the same time, who cares?

Delaying service time is a formality. 

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Trivia: Giancarlo Stanton became the 15th active player to have homered against all 30 teams when he homered against the Marlins. Of the 15, four have spent time on a Brewer roster. Name them.

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16 minutes ago, Underachiever said:

Trivia: Giancarlo Stanton became the 15th active player to have homered against all 30 teams when he homered against the Marlins. Of the 15, four have spent time on a Brewer roster. Name them.

The most obvious one I would have to imagine is Carlos Santana. 300+ homers and has played in both leagues a decent amount of time. I don't think McCutchen has played for an AL team, but he also has a stupid number of HRs for an active player. Yelich has a good amount for an active player, but I feel like that is a fun fact I would already know if he was one.

EDIT: Okay after looking it up one of the four names is a bit shocking, with needing only 111 homers to join this club and has never hit more than 15 in a year.

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1 hour ago, MrTPlush said:

The most obvious one I would have to imagine is Carlos Santana. 300+ homers and has played in both leagues a decent amount of time. I don't think McCutchen has played for an AL team, but he also has a stupid number of HRs for an active player. Yelich has a good amount for an active player, but I feel like that is a fun fact I would already know if he was one.

EDIT: Okay after looking it up one of the four names is a bit shocking, with needing only 111 homers to join this club and has never hit more than 15 in a year.

Cutch and Santana, yes. I was pretty surprised as well on one of them.

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19 hours ago, brewcrewdue80 said:

Jackson Holiday called up from AAA exact day Baltimore gains 1year of Service. Why pretend it's a call up because the other players weren't playing well and just say we gained another year of Jackson with our move.

I'm surprised that Boras quotes are not already pasted all over every sports website.

Assuming Holliday does not get sent back down, the Orioles likely did him a huge favor by calling him up this early.  He will be Super Two eligible.  If he lives up to the hype, this will cost the Orioles tens of millions of dollars down the road.  At 7-4, they certainly have been competitive enough (and had a bright outlook heading into the season as a 101 win team last year), that they could have left Holliday in the minors for a couple more months without anybody really raising an eyebrow.

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36 minutes ago, JosephC said:

I'm surprised that Boras quotes are not already pasted all over every sports website.

Makes me wonder if this was essentially a negotiating tactic, and that the O's and Boras are working on a Chourio-like extension. Boras clients don't always go to free-agency at the earliest opportunity. And Boras wants to maximize Holliday's career earnings. A pricey extension now still allows for Holliday to hit free agency in his prime.

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