2024 MLB Miscellaneous News

[Underachiever]

Watching White Sox play the Twins. 6-5 heading into the 9th. Steve Stone, talking about the Sox: “Good teams find a way to win in the late innings, bad teams find a way to lose.” Twins proceed to score 4 in the 9th. Good way to dog the team you work for without dogging the team you work for. 
 

Twins 7-0 vs the Sox

[MrTPlush]

Remember when a massive contingency of the forum and Brewers fans in general wanted to sign Jose Abreu.

After posting a .680 OPS in his first year, he has now been optioned to Rookie ball after a .269 OPS start to 2024

[wiguy94]

16 minutes ago, MrTPlush said:

Remember when a massive contingency of the forum and Brewers fans in general wanted to sign Jose Abreu.

After posting a .680 OPS in his first year, he has now been optioned to Rookie ball after a .269 OPS start to 2024

Yeah thank the lord the Brewers didn't sign him like I wanted. That contract would be an absolute boat anchor for the franchise.

[tmwiese55]

Just saw the Cubs play to end the game. After the calls against MKE the last few days to potentially change outcomes of games they get the complete opposite in their favor.   I've only seen one angle but sure looked clearly safe to me, even before factoring in the catcher sitting on the plate. 

[MrTPlush]

1 hour ago, tmwiese55 said:

Just saw the Cubs play to end the game. After the calls against MKE the last few days to potentially change outcomes of games they get the complete opposite in their favor.   I've only seen one angle but sure looked clearly safe to me, even before factoring in the catcher sitting on the plate. 

No way to prove he was safe though, so whatever call was on the field was going to stand in that situation.

As far as blocking the plate…that was clearly not blocking the plate to me. His foot was in the middle of the plate. Therefor he had a path to the plate by any angle coming into home, which is what the rule states you have to allow.

[tmwiese55]

12 hours ago, MrTPlush said:

No way to prove he was safe though, so whatever call was on the field was going to stand in that situation.

As far as blocking the plate…that was clearly not blocking the plate to me. His foot was in the middle of the plate. Therefor he had a path to the plate by any angle coming into home, which is what the rule states you have to allow.

Yea I'd agree on not block, especially since they've lightened up on that at the plate after the overr emphasis when it started.  But since he's not blocking leaving the front of the plate open then it seems his hand was clearly in and enough to overturn.  But really thats besides the point, of course its a close play but came down to umps in their case the break ended the game in their favor whereas we just had two do the opposite for MKE  

ETA: I see the other angle now with his hand in the air, yea that makes it a toss up. That angle wasn't there when I posted last night 

[kestrel79]

Man what happened to the White Sox? Weren't they really good a year or two before the La Russa hire? I remember they had a ton of really good, young Latin players all coming up at the same time. What happened?

[Thurston Fluff]

39 minutes ago, kestrel79 said:

Man what happened to the White Sox? Weren't they really good a year or two before the La Russa hire? I remember they had a ton of really good, young Latin players all coming up at the same time. What happened?

La Russa taught them how to play the game the right way.

[owbc]

40 minutes ago, kestrel79 said:

Man what happened to the White Sox? Weren't they really good a year or two before the La Russa hire? I remember they had a ton of really good, young Latin players all coming up at the same time. What happened?

It's intentional. They are copying the Oakland A's playbook to lobby for a new stadium/relocation. 

[tmwiese55]

27 minutes ago, owbc said:

It's intentional. They are copying the Oakland A's playbook to lobby for a new stadium/relocation. 

Maybe now that they've accepted they're not good.  But the lead up to this was not intentional. The owner is in his upper 80s and the Larussa years was his kind of last 'go for it' type thing but seems they've now accepted the team is bad and try to teardown/rebuild.   But before they were spending and trying to win with that good year that was mentioned and the year or two after. Just last year they gave Benintendi 75 mil.   Somehow Tim Anderson forgot how to play baseball, Jiminez can't stay healthy, Grandall flopped, Giolitto fell apart.  A bunch of other things too.  If you'd have said 2-3 years ago they'd be in this position no one would've believed you. 

[Jim French Stepstool]

Caleb Boushley, our one-day hero from late last season, has been brought up by the Twins.

[wiguy94]

2 minutes ago, Jim French Stepstool said:

Caleb Boushley, our one-day hero from late last season, has been brought up by the Twins.

He's already been optioned back down to AAA. Only up for 1 day.

[Jim French Stepstool]

10 minutes ago, wiguy94 said:

He's already been optioned back down to AAA. Only up for 1 day.

Ahhhh. Just saw the announcement on a crawl re him being added.

Hope he at least took advantage of meal money. Is that still a thing?

[Samurai Bucky]

Didn't know where to put this one... didn't want to start a new thread:

No blocking -- wrong IMHO.  He seemed to get his left hand in.  How they missed this in replay is beyond me.

[Team Canada]

1 hour ago, Samurai Bucky said:

No blocking -- wrong IMHO.  He seemed to get his left hand in.  How they missed this in replay is beyond me.

Scroll for discussion on this play. :)

In one of the angles you can see the hand comes up in the air, it never actually touches the plate. If it were on the ground he's certainly safe.

[young guns]

59 minutes ago, Samurai Bucky said:

Didn't know where to put this one... didn't want to start a new thread:

No blocking -- wrong IMHO.  He seemed to get his left hand in.  How they missed this in replay is beyond me.

The problem is that his hand seemed to go up in the air when it reached the plate area.  It beat the tag, but not sure he touched the plate since his hand went up.

As for the blocking, I have no idea.  He seems to drop, or try to drop, his knees right on the edge of the plate.  Seems to be what was a point of emphasis made illegal for the other bases this year, but is that still legal for home plate?  Seems weird to me.

[Samurai Bucky]

1 hour ago, young guns said:

The problem is that his hand seemed to go up in the air when it reached the plate area.  It beat the tag, but not sure he touched the plate since his hand went up.

As for the blocking, I have no idea.  He seems to drop, or try to drop, his knees right on the edge of the plate.  Seems to be what was a point of emphasis made illegal for the other bases this year, but is that still legal for home plate?  Seems weird to me.

Hypothetically, if the same thing happens on first, second, or third, he is safe because his hand would come up, but the bases are not flush with the ground.  

Also, if he was wearing an oven mitt, that helps his cause.  🤔

[owbc]

Mets fans have basically blamed this one on Alonso's poor sliding ability. It's not the first time. 

[markedman5]

Mets walk off the Cubbies in 11

it was beautiful 

[BruisedCrew]

The powerhouse Yankees lineup that scored 30 runs in 2 games against the Brewers managed 6 total runs while losing 3 of 4 to the Orioles. 

[wiguy94]

6 minutes ago, BruisedCrew said:

The powerhouse Yankees lineup that scored 30 runs in 2 games against the Brewers managed 6 total runs while losing 3 of 4 to the Orioles. 

Shows how good the 19-11 Brewers are for being a bullpen letdown away from sweeping the Orioles in their own house. The Orioles that haven't been swept in like 100 or something series in a row.

[BruisedCrew]

1 hour ago, wiguy94 said:

Shows how good the 19-11 Brewers are for being a bullpen letdown away from sweeping the Orioles in their own house. The Orioles that haven't been swept in like 100 or something series in a row.

They certainly were good that week when they were scoring almost 10 runs a game. 

[sveumrules]

44 minutes ago, BruisedCrew said:

They certainly were good that week when they were scoring almost 10 runs a game. 

5-1 during the six game scoring streak, 14-10 in their other games (.583 W%) which is about a 94-95 win pace over 162.

In the 18 games since Yelich had his back flare up they are 10-8 (.556 W%) which is a 90 win pace over 162.

Playing .500 the rest of the way (66-66) would put them at 85-77 which still would have won the NLC (or netted them WC2) last year.

I don’t think anyone expects the Brewers to keep up their current 102-103 win pace, but they’ve been good (& dare I say fun) for more than one historic week.

[dlk9s]

 

[BruisedCrew]

1 hour ago, sveumrules said:

5-1 during the six game scoring streak, 14-10 in their other games (.583 W%) which is about a 94-95 win pace over 162.

In the 18 games since Yelich had his back flare up they are 10-8 (.556 W%) which is a 90 win pace over 162.

Playing .500 the rest of the way (66-66) would put them at 85-77 which still would have won the NLC (or netted them WC2) last year.

I don’t think anyone expects the Brewers to keep up their current 102-103 win pace, but they’ve been good (& dare I say fun) for more than one historic week.

You’re going a long way to apparently try to “refute” a point I haven’t made.

Of course the Brewers have been good so far with a record of 19-11. And within that they’ve had some high points and some not so high points. They were great against the Orioles, but not so great against the Yankees. That kind of up and down is inevitable.

Only time will tell if the Brewers can continue to be one of the top scoring teams in MLB (I’m guessing they won’t) and if the pounding the Yankees put on the Brewers pitching staff was an aberration or a warning sign of what might be a problem down the road given the fragile state of the starting rotation.