Cubs (Taillon) vs Brewers (Rea): 5/30/24, 12:10pm

[markedman5]

Great play by Ortiz to end it

 

what a series……..finally got to 10 over!

[OldHeidelberg]

10 games over, finally! I don't know about the Brewers but that was starting to get in my head 😀

[homer]

[Brewcrew82]

1 minute ago, Bulldogboy said:

White Sox are complete disarray. Could be huge weekend. Create some distance 

Won't be as easy as we think. They're throwing two really good pitchers at us to start out the series. 

[Team Canada]

Another great Brewers/Cubs series from a pure entertainment value, and even better with a series victory for the good guys.

[formerlybis]

There's such a long way to go, but it feels like a large psychological difference - for both teams - between a 5.5 and a 3.5 game lead/deficit.

[BruisedCrew]

Great entertaining series. 

Cardinals now in second place. 

[Bulldogboy]

Hope Brewers continue to value bringing in proven vets like Sanchez to help out young guys. Dumpster diving for minor league guys like Dunn and Bauers don't usually work out. Proven guys cost more but worth it.

[treego14]

The Craig Counsell years in Milwaukee were good for the Brewers and not so good for the Cubs.

The Craig Counsell years in Chicago are good for the Brewers and not so good for the Cubs.

Let's go, Brew Crew!

[CheezWizHed]

4 minutes ago, homer said:

As I sit here staring at the name on my shirt, I have no one to blame but myself...

[Brewcrew82]

Brewers 10 games over .500 with a +52 run differential. 5 games up on the Cards, who have the worst run differential in the division, and 5.5 games up on the Scrubs. No other NL Central team is over .500 or has a plus run differential.

May is just ending, but you have to consider the Brewers pretty heavy favorites to win the division at this point for the 2nd consecutive season and the 3rd time in 4 years. 

[Jim French Stepstool]

There's been some talk on here about the team winning in spite of Murphy, which IMO is way too harsh. But just for today, I think it applies. You have to keep Wisdom & Suzuki on the bench in the 7th. Lifting Payamps was a bad move that I disagreed with in the moment, no hindsight. In the 8th I'm inclined to give Morel a little credit for staying on a 3-1 pitch & hitting it out the other way, I think the decision to leave Hudson in there is a little more of a gray area.

Miller not bunting was a terrible decision. I loved Schroeder there. "It's tough to bunt on a guy that isn't throwing strikes". No, Bill. There's such a thing as pulling the bat back & taking the pitch.

But at the end of the day, wow did this group step up in the moment!! Fantastic series. Can't say enough about the quality of Adames' at bats. He'll be delivering a crow dinner to my door tonite.

Let's give Contreras a day tomorrow. Go old school, Turang & Ortiz 1 & 2.

[Jim French Stepstool]

7 minutes ago, Bulldogboy said:

 Dumpster diving 

You mean like Koenig & Perkins?

[sveumrules]

3 minutes ago, Brewcrew82 said:

Brewers 10 games over .500 with a +52 run differential. 5 games up on the Cards, who have the worst run differential in the division, and 5.5 games up on the Scrubs. No other NL Central team is over .500 or has a plus run differential.

May is just ending, but you have to consider the Brewers pretty heavy favorites to win the division at this point for the 2nd consecutive season and the 3rd time in 4 years. 

FanGraphs was at 55.7% for the Brewers versus 19.5% and 16.9% for the Cubs and Cardinals before the game today.

BPro is coming around now too with 43.6% for the Brewers versus 27.6% and 24.3% for the Cubs and Cardinals.

[Bulldogboy]

Gotta hope McGill is ready to go this weekend. 

[Bulldogboy]

2 minutes ago, Jim French Stepstool said:

You mean like Koenig & Perkins?

No like I said Dunn and Bauers. Now you are going to hit on a few here and there but proven mlb players are the way to add value. 

[markedman5]

Brewers base running prowess really showed up today…….Frelick in particular 

[markedman5]

5 minutes ago, sveumrules said:

FanGraphs was at 55.7% for the Brewers versus 19.5% and 16.9% for the Cubs and Cardinals before the game today.

BPro is coming around now too with 43.6% for the Brewers versus 27.6% and 24.3% for the Cubs and Cardinals.

If you use the season to date stats it jumps to 75%

[Outlander]

1 minute ago, Bulldogboy said:

No like I said Dunn and Bauers. Now you are going to hit on a few here and there but proven mlb players are the way to add value. 

Pretty much the entire bullpen right now is filled with unproven guys when acquired. Payamps, Peguero, Milner, Hudson, Megill, Wilson, Koenig. The starter today Rea as well.

[sveumrules]

2 minutes ago, Bulldogboy said:

No like I said Dunn and Bauers. Now you are going to hit on a few here and there but proven mlb players are the way to add value. 

There is no one proven way to add value, they all have their various risks and rewards.

How did signing JBJ or McCutchen work out?

Was Winker a proven MLB player?

[duewizard]

3 minutes ago, Bulldogboy said:

No like I said Dunn and Bauers. Now you are going to hit on a few here and there but proven mlb players are the way to add value. 

Milner, Koenig, Perkins, Monasterio, Wilson, Peguero, Payamps. All guys who were seen as not good enough for MLB and that have been solid contributors over the past two years. Proven players are the best choice, sure, but they are expensive and can also backfire (Winker?). The way to go for small market teams is a healthy mix

[Jim French Stepstool]

2 minutes ago, Bulldogboy said:

No like I said Dunn and Bauers. Now you are going to hit on a few here and there but proven mlb players are the way to add value. 

So only go dumpster diving when you KNOW the guy is going to pan out. When you know he isn't, pass. Come on. This is something teams do to add to their roster, and not just us. No, it isn't an exact science. But from what I've seen I trust this organizations' decisions more often than not.

And BTW, Jake Bauers has made the difference btwn winning & losing games 2-3 times this season with the glove alone. But I do agree he's scuffling now, on both ends. I don't know if you're a Tyler Black guy or not, but I'm talking about plays he would NOT have made if he were here instead.

[tmwiese55]

11 minutes ago, Bulldogboy said:

No like I said Dunn and Bauers. Now you are going to hit on a few here and there but proven mlb players are the way to add value. 

Sure in general you're probably right in that you probably have a higher floor.   But our recent samples here don't' really help much.   Mccutchen, Bradley Jr, Winker.    Got value out of dumpster guys like Jesus, Rowdy, Perkins somewhat, and some others.    I'd guess the lesson is there probably is no clear set formula and each is its own case.  But in general, that 8-10 mil "proven vet" slot we've had the last few years has flopped, and likely led to them paying up for Hoskins instead.   And if I had to guess the 'moneyball' on the value provided by getting that 8-10 mil guy over the league min isn't there in the sense that both have a good chance to be about league avg players. But one of course costs way more and you can take multiple swings at it with the saved money.     Basic example say 2 years ago, chances are the difference between a Tyrone Taylor and McCutchen is going to be pretty negligible but one costs 8 mil the other is league min.  But you're probably generally right in the sense that a McCutchen is less likely to be a complete disaster so is safer

And tha'ts ignoring pitching where we've made a killing dumpster diving others castoffs

[wiguy94]

27 minutes ago, Bulldogboy said:

White Sox are complete disarray. Could be huge weekend. Create some distance 

While they suck we do face their two best SP who have both been good this year in Fedde and Crochet.

[Jim French Stepstool]

26 minutes ago, Brewcrew82 said:

Won't be as easy as we think. They're throwing two really good pitchers at us to start out the series. 

Agree. Like I've said, it isn't who you're playing, but how. Hopefully a hot streak can spring up from this.