2024 Trade Deadline

[Brewcrew82]

First major blockbuster has gone down.

 

[Brewcrew82]

 

[Underachiever]

To those smarter than I am, what would Rengifo cost?

[nate82]

1 hour ago, Underachiever said:

To those smarter than I am, what would Rengifo cost?

I don't think he fits defensively for the Brewers.  He is not a good 2B defensively.  He shouldn't cost much but he does have 1.5 years of control left.  So at least one 15-20 team ranked prospect, one 30-40 team ranked prospect and then a throw in player like Wiemer or a PTBNL.

[Sixtolezcano]

10 minutes ago, nate82 said:

I don't think he fits defensively for the Brewers.  He is not a good 2B defensively.  He shouldn't cost much but he does have 1.5 years of control left.  So at least one 15-20 team ranked prospect, one 30-40 team ranked prospect and then a throw in player like Wiemer or a PTBNL.

Way too much in return. One 25-40 ranked prospect and maybe a PTBN later. Adding Wiemer would be a large overpay.

[nate82]

2 minutes ago, Sixtolezcano said:

Way too much in return. One 25-40 ranked prospect and maybe a PTBN later. Adding Wiemer would be a large overpay.

Wiemer has very little value. 

[Sixtolezcano]

21 minutes ago, nate82 said:

Wiemer has very little value. 

Hmmmmmm! I’m sure you believe that, but I wouldn’t even throw in a Chris Roller or a Pat Dorian in the trade.

[brewers888]

There is no reason to trade for someone like Rengifo and giving up two or three prospects of any note is insane.

[Jopal78]

50 minutes ago, nate82 said:

I don't think he fits defensively for the Brewers.  He is not a good 2B defensively.  He shouldn't cost much but he does have 1.5 years of control left.  So at least one 15-20 team ranked prospect, one 30-40 team ranked prospect and then a throw in player like Wiemer or a PTBNL.

Sheesh, must be a bear market.
 

Rengifo has a 1.7 bWAR which tops Joey Ortiz. He has an OPS+ of 118, plays 2B, 3B corner OF and is team controlled for 2025.

I’m not saying he’s a superstar player, but if the Angels decided to shop him they’d do much better than a couple mid-tier prospects as you suggest. Nobody is going to trade for Joey Wiemer either, they can just wait around and claim him when he gets DFA’d later this year or in the offseason. 

[LouisEly]

2 hours ago, Underachiever said:

To those smarter than I am, what would Rengifo cost?

Where do you plan on playing him, 1B?  DH?

Rengifo has a 1.4 fWAR, 1.7 bWAR and Turang has a 2.1 fWAR, 3.7 bWAR.  (And we know Fangraphs is shorting Turang defensively).

[Brian]

Rengifo is a switch hitting 3rd baseman, so you could move Ortiez to 2nd base if needed. But we are really grasping at straws even though Rengifo batting over .300 this season. 

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/mlb/player/luis-rengifo-ox4iYTSNPXSpICz9/

[Thurston Fluff]

38 minutes ago, Brian said:

Rengifo is a switch hitting 3rd baseman, so you could move Ortiez to 2nd base if needed. But we are really grasping at straws even though Rengifo batting over .300 this season. 

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/mlb/player/luis-rengifo-ox4iYTSNPXSpICz9/

Replacing Turang with Oritz at second to make room for Rengifo at third seems counterproductive.

[Oxy]

I like a thread that details what MLB deals have been done in the main forum, but keep in mind that there is an entire other forum to discuss "possible" Brewer trades and transactions.

[Sixtolezcano]

2 hours ago, Jopal78 said:

... Nobody is going to trade for Joey Wiemer either, they can just wait around and claim him when he gets DFA’d later this year or in the offseason. 

I get on my knees and thank the powers that be you are nowhere near the Brewer GM position. Arnold isn’t that stupid! In July Wiemer has hit 413/526/630 (204 wRC+) with 10 BB | 8 Ks in 57 PAs.  You probably would have DFAed Chourio in June.

[Jopal78]

1 hour ago, Sixtolezcano said:

I get on my knees and thank the powers that be you are nowhere near the Brewer GM position. Arnold isn’t that stupid! In July Wiemer has hit 413/526/630 (204 wRC+) with 10 BB | 8 Ks in 57 PAs.  You probably would have DFAed Chourio in June.

What does that bring his season OPS up to? .720? .730? 
 

Give me a break. That a 4th round pick made the major leagues at all is a huge success. But Wiemer didn’t really impress last year in the majors, because of his struggles he remade his swing and hasn’t been impressive in AAA this year despite it being his 3rd go around. Minor league free agent signee Brewer Hicklen is likely closer to the major leagues than Joey Wiemer (.950 OPS in AAA with 150 more ABs than Joey).

Pro baseball is a tough fickle business; with a fully stacked roster of OFers and players Milwaukee needs to add to their 40 man roster, you think the Brewers are just going to hold on to a guy  because he “might” be passable in the majors some day?
 

[Sixtolezcano]

28 minutes ago, Jopal78 said:

What does that bring his season OPS up to? .720? .730? 
 

Give me a break. That a 4th round pick made the major leagues at all is a huge success. But Wiemer didn’t really impress last year in the majors, because of his struggles he remade his swing and hasn’t been impressive in AAA this year despite it being his 3rd go around. Minor league free agent signee Brewer Hicklen is likely closer to the major leagues than Joey Wiemer (.950 OPS in AAA with 150 more ABs than Joey).
 

You just might want it give Joey a little more time to mature, especially since he has overhauled his entire swing this season. He has only played 99 games in AAA with 421 PA. He is a far superior fielder than Hicklen and Frelick for that matter. It will be interesting to see who will be a better MLB outfielder in 2026 between these 3 players. I think a little more patience is needed with Wiemer especially with his slugging potential.

[Jopal78]

17 minutes ago, Sixtolezcano said:

You just might want it give Joey a little more time to mature, especially since he has overhauled his entire swing this season. He has only played 99 games in AAA with 421 PA. He is a far superior fielder than Hicklen and Frelick for that matter. It will be interesting to see who will be a better MLB outfielder in 2026 between these 3 players. I think a little more patience is needed with Wiemer especially with his slugging potential.

Your post gets to the heart of the matter.  Wiemer is a college player drafted four years ago in the 4th round for $150,000 bonus. Certainly teams don’t draft college players with the hope they develop in 5-6 years. 

You might be right though and Joey could still become an everyday player in the majors.  But I think the odds are the Brewers will need his 40 man spot sooner than that for players they like who they have more money invested in and/or might otherwise lose in the Rule 5 process or maybe even sooner depending how much they shake up they remake their roster at the deadline. 
 

 

 

[Jim French Stepstool]

10 minutes ago, Sixtolezcano said:

You just might want it give Joey a little more time to mature, especially since he has overhauled his entire swing this season. He has only played 99 games in AAA with 421 PA. He is a far superior fielder than Hicklen and Frelick for that matter. It will be interesting to see who will be a better MLB outfielder in 2026 between these 3 players. I think a little more patience is needed with Wiemer especially with his slugging potential.

In this Wiemer debate I think the truth lies somewhere in between. His recent performance suggests they most likely aren't ready to give up on him, but I also don't think his trade value right now is such that it's going to tip any scales, even as a throw-in. They're best off keeping him & waiting to see to what extent he's figured things out.

Rengifo would look good in their batting order but I don't see him being much of a fit.

[markedman5]

Better than the Cards…..which was rumored 

 

[tmwiese55]

I know a 40 man crunch is coming soon but I'd be surprised if he's one to be pushed out this offseason and just released. You're always gonna need depth OFs due to injuries and with likely seemingly relegated to almost all DH really soon. So why not the young one you control for 5 more years and know at the very least plays elite D.  The following offseason if he still hasn't done anything other than being a subpar fill in though seems a kind of deadline for him though.

But yea, of course if a trade comes up he seems available/expendable. Sure would be nice to start seeing some results out of Mitchell to have some trust in another of the prospects being legit, he certainly looks the part but results just haven't come yet.  Just double checked and they have 7 OFs on the 40 man now.  When you pretty much need 5 on the MLB roster at all times (since one will be DH in Yeli) it doesn't seem a bad use of spots to have two in AAA for injury and fill ins.    Its not clear to me what Hicklen's contract status is for next year like with arby or where he's at so he might be gone leaving just Joey for depth.

[RWeeksFan23]

1 hour ago, markedman5 said:

Better than the Cards…..which was rumored 

 

what would that look like in terms of our prospects?

[Brian]

4 hours ago, Sixtolezcano said:

I get on my knees and thank the powers that be you are nowhere near the Brewer GM position. Arnold isn’t that stupid! In July Wiemer has hit 413/526/630 (204 wRC+) with 10 BB | 8 Ks in 57 PAs.  You probably would have DFAed Chourio in June.

Not quite sure where you getting your Wiemer info from. https://www.milb.com/player/joey-wiemer-686894

[Sixtolezcano]

51 minutes ago, Brian said:

Not quite sure where you getting your Wiemer info from. https://www.milb.com/player/joey-wiemer-686894

Your link reports his Brewer stats (MLB) from earlier this year. I quoted my stats from the  brewerfanatic encyclopedia Sveumrules (Joey Wiemer’s new swing; topic, We’d., July 24, page 3).

 

“Interesting, I thought maybe someone bumped the thread because he’s hit 413/526/630 (204 wRC+) with 10 BB | 8 K over 57 PAs since July 2nd.”

[markedman5]

Speaking of Wiemer

 

[StearnsFTW]

Good pick up for the Orioles.

Eflin isn't great, but if he's starting game 3 in the playoffs that's just fine.