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I’m in the camp of this guy entirely fine and honestly I would give him a little extra time off to make sure it’s completely ready to go. He’ll be fine and ready to kick some butt when he’s back. This team is built to be flexible. 

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5 hours ago, MVP2110 said:

Just look at how much it meant to the players from Venezuela. The TV ratings for the WBC were through the roof. Maybe USA fans dont care as much but fans from Venezuela, the DR, Italy, Japan, etc. certainly cared

And that directly and provably benefits the Brewers how? Did the Brewers get a huge cut of the TV and merch revenues from the WBC since they had so many players involved? I don't care how it makes foreign born players "feel". I just want them healthy and producing for OUR team. There have been thousands of players from various nations for several decades that didn't need the WBC to motivate them to play well for their MLB employer. They likely thanked God for blessing them with the opportunity to play professional baseball in the U.S. Would fans get the same warm fuzzies if Chourio (or Turang) was lost for the BREWERS 2026 season by some injury sustained in the WBC. I get the "feel good" aspect of the WBC, And truly, it's probably good for marketing baseball, growing the sport to combat the poularity of soccer. It's especially good for MLB corporates. But small market MIL can't afford that risk of losing a precious and rare asset, however long the odds might be of it occurring in my view. Glad it's not an annual thing.  

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21 minutes ago, Turning2 said:

And that directly and provably benefits the Brewers how? Did the Brewers get a huge cut of the TV and merch revenues from the WBC since they had so many players involved? I don't care how it makes foreign born players "feel". I just want them healthy and producing for OUR team. There have been thousands of players from various nations for several decades that didn't need the WBC to motivate them to play well for their MLB employer. They likely thanked God for blessing them with the opportunity to play professional baseball in the U.S. Would fans get the same warm fuzzies if Chourio (or Turang) was lost for the BREWERS 2026 season by some injury sustained in the WBC. I get the "feel good" aspect of the WBC, And truly, it's probably good for marketing baseball, growing the sport to combat the poularity of soccer. It's especially good for MLB corporates. But small market MIL can't afford that risk of losing a precious and rare asset, however long the odds might be of it occurring in my view. Glad it's not an annual thing.  

I mean, this just feels like a way less enjoyable way to look at sports. 

I care quite a bit about how players feel. They're human! Venezuela winning was cool. The risk of significant injury is no different than any game, and what the WBC meant for that team puts the stakes right up there with playoff baseball. I know it doesn't feel that way to domestic fans focused solely on their team. But it felt that way to a large part of Venezuela and the Venezuelan diaspora, and trading that to shave a few measly risk points off a position player (even a pitcher, but definitely a position player) just feels like it borders on joyless.

It just ain't up to us to decide how players and teams risk manage the WBC. 

Nobody seriously makes this argument about international hockey players or World Cup qualifying or summer Olympic basketball. I really don't see why this is any different. We can hope our players put the Brewers above everything, but making that a stringent requirement is asking them to trade a whole lot, even in exchange for a lot of money and fame.

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1 hour ago, Cool Hand Lucroy said:

I mean, this just feels like a way less enjoyable way to look at sports. 

I care quite a bit about how players feel. They're human! Venezuela winning was cool. The risk of significant injury is no different than any game, and what the WBC meant for that team puts the stakes right up there with playoff baseball. I know it doesn't feel that way to domestic fans focused solely on their team. But it felt that way to a large part of Venezuela and the Venezuelan diaspora, and trading that to shave a few measly risk points off a position player (even a pitcher, but definitely a position player) just feels like it borders on joyless.

 

Sure, I get that all. I care about the players as people too. However, there are priorities and risk managements that supersede emotion when dealing with multimillion dollar assets in my view. Just a difference of opinion. 

How would you feel if Chourio tore up a shoulder sliding into base, or ripped up a knee crashing into a wall and was lost for the season?  

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Would you feel better if he got drilled playing a spring training game playing against some minor leaguer with control-issues?

I think worrying about professional athletes "risking injury" to do pretty normal professional athlete things in the off-season is dumb.

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We are arguing about the beauty of sports and competition. WBC, Olympics, 4 nations face off, World Cup, etc. Those things are beautiful and matter more than regular season games. We should celebrate it. And yes there will be injuries but I’ll take the passion of those events over the risk of a player from my team getting hurt. 

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3 hours ago, Turning2 said:

And that directly and provably benefits the Brewers how? Did the Brewers get a huge cut of the TV and merch revenues from the WBC since they had so many players involved? I don't care how it makes foreign born players "feel". I just want them healthy and producing for OUR team. There have been thousands of players from various nations for several decades that didn't need the WBC to motivate them to play well for their MLB employer. They likely thanked God for blessing them with the opportunity to play professional baseball in the U.S. Would fans get the same warm fuzzies if Chourio (or Turang) was lost for the BREWERS 2026 season by some injury sustained in the WBC. I get the "feel good" aspect of the WBC, And truly, it's probably good for marketing baseball, growing the sport to combat the poularity of soccer. It's especially good for MLB corporates. But small market MIL can't afford that risk of losing a precious and rare asset, however long the odds might be of it occurring in my view. Glad it's not an annual thing.  

Your exact quote was " I just don't get the love affair with the cheesy WBC" 

I was just explaining why there are a lot of people that enjoy the WBC

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2 hours ago, Turning2 said:

Sure, I get that all. I care about the players as people too. However, there are priorities and risk managements that supersede emotion when dealing with multimillion dollar assets in my view. Just a difference of opinion. 

How would you feel if Chourio tore up a shoulder sliding into base, or ripped up a knee crashing into a wall and was lost for the season?  

I think you're right. Philosophical difference, and to each their own.

It would obviously suck if we lost Chourio for the year. But that's a really low risk, and some things aren't about how they might impact my team.

Nick Hornby's Fever Pitch has a great line about sports teaching one to appreciate blind, irrational loyalty. I love that. But sports also have taught me that it has limits. I think international competition is a clear one. If your primary reaction to watching England make a deep World Cup run is "this is super risky for Arsenal," I think that misses the soul of why I love sports.

 

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2 hours ago, RobDeer 45 said:

We are arguing about the beauty of sports and competition. WBC, Olympics, 4 nations face off, World Cup, etc. Those things are beautiful and matter more than regular season games. We should celebrate it. And yes there will be injuries but I’ll take the passion of those events over the risk of a player from my team getting hurt. 

I find it tough to care about rooting for Team USA and instead I really was only hoping for Brewers organizational players to do well and not get hurt.  I don't mean it in an anti American way or anything, I just find it tough to care about how players from other organizations do.

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5 hours ago, Turning2 said:

And that directly and provably benefits the Brewers how? Did the Brewers get a huge cut of the TV and merch revenues from the WBC since they had so many players involved? I don't care how it makes foreign born players "feel". I just want them healthy and producing for OUR team. There have been thousands of players from various nations for several decades that didn't need the WBC to motivate them to play well for their MLB employer. They likely thanked God for blessing them with the opportunity to play professional baseball in the U.S. Would fans get the same warm fuzzies if Chourio (or Turang) was lost for the BREWERS 2026 season by some injury sustained in the WBC. I get the "feel good" aspect of the WBC, And truly, it's probably good for marketing baseball, growing the sport to combat the poularity of soccer. It's especially good for MLB corporates. But small market MIL can't afford that risk of losing a precious and rare asset, however long the odds might be of it occurring in my view. Glad it's not an annual thing.  

Yes. If a player was lost for the season, it would make Brewers fans feel much worse.

But... he wasn't. Wasn't he hit in a STing game?

Also, did someone say that they needed to play for their home nations to "motivate them to play well for their MLB employer?" Conversely, 1-I don't think you CAN tell a player they can't participate. 
2-You start saying your players are off-limits and you're going to deal with more hard feelings. 

3-Most important... again, they weren't lost for the season. 

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But small market MIL can't afford that risk of losing a precious and rare asset, however long the odds might be of it occurring in my view. Glad it's not an annual thing.  

Probably a good idea to remember their actual human beings who take a great deal of pride playing for their National teams... and reducing them entirely to "assets," in EVERY context, especially a young player you signed to be the cornerstone of the next decade, again, it probably wouldn't reflect well on the Brewers. 

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On 3/26/2026 at 10:20 AM, Jopal78 said:

Nobody said athletes were smart. Plays through the pain and swelling for pride in the WBC, then isn’t ready when the bell rings for the team that pays him to perform. 

Not sure why this post got slammed so hard.

He did play through the pain and swelling for his WBC team.

The Brewers do pay him.

He wasn't ready when the season started.

Probably wasn't necessary to throw in the smart comment, but as a Brewers fan, this is pretty annoying, we need him...

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On 3/27/2026 at 11:18 AM, MVP2110 said:

Just look at how much it meant to the players from Venezuela. The TV ratings for the WBC were through the roof. Maybe USA fans dont care as much but fans from Venezuela, the DR, Italy, Japan, etc. certainly cared

Honestly, I didn't care much at all, just wanted all our guys to get through it healthy, and we see how that went...

Not sure what the answer is, but guys get hurt, we paid the price, all we can do now id hope he heals quickly and properly...

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On 3/27/2026 at 8:15 AM, Turning2 said:

Yeah, not a fan of the WBC for just this reason. Could have happened in a spring training game too, but that is a necessary risk. Risking injury in the WBC is not, and is probably a heightened risk as guys are playing more competitively in the WBC, more adrenaline etc. I just don't get the love affair with the cheesy WBC. Guys playing for teams they sometimes have the thinnest of ancestral connections too is just dumb. 

One generation isn't THAT thin... I guess I'm not looking up the WBC by-laws and I might be conflating it with the Olympics, but doesn't one of your parents have to be citizens/first gen immigrants in order to play for a country?

There is an innate proviniciality to athletics.  At least in the traditional aspect of how most of America and Americans view team sports.  Celebrating your roots through HEALTHY, social, communal competition is beautiful.

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On 3/27/2026 at 11:11 PM, BrewerFan said:

But... he wasn't. Wasn't he hit in a STing game?

No, he was hit in a WBC game for Venezuela. But he played in the WBC and several ST games before mentioning that his hand hurt.  Possibly aggravating it in an ST game. 

But someone else made the point above... is there any more risk in getting hit in ST vs the WBC?  Most of the players came back to ST with fewer ABs than the players that stayed.  

Players that play sports will get hurt at sometime.  At least he didn't hurt himself celebrating...

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"Rock, sometime, when the team is up against it, and the breaks are beating the boys, tell 'em to go out there with all they got and win just one for the Uecker. I don't know where I'll be then, Rock but I'll know about it; and I'll be happy."

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13 hours ago, TURBO said:

we need him...we paid the price

Thru the first week & a half the Brewers are tied for the most wins in MLB (7), have the best run differential (+28), the most stolen bases (20), are second in runs per game (6.67) & OBP (.369), and third in SLG (.446) and wRC+ (134).

I’m sure Chourio (& Vaughn & Priester) will be needed at some point, but no price has really been paid as of yet.

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Andrew Vaughn didn't play in the WBC. It's baseball. Stuff happens.

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an argument could be made that participating in these events is worth it for the experience and confidence it can give athletes. young and old

maybe a taste of success will instill a career long "drive" in guys to find it again

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1 minute ago, SeaBass said:

He got hurt playing baseball. What are we even talking about here??

yeah the alternative is to never face live pitching in spring training....and then get hit on Opening Day

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"Dustin Pedroia doesn't have the strength or bat speed to hit major-league pitching consistently, and he has no power......He probably has a future as a backup infielder if he can stop rolling over to third base and shortstop." Keith Law, 2006
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3 minutes ago, homer said:

yeah the alternative is to never face live pitching in spring training....and then get hit on Opening Day

Right, it simply doesn't correlate. He either would have been playing baseball games in Florida or playing baseball games in Arizona. I don't really see the difference.

If he was a pitcher and somehow got overused, threw too many pitches/innings then there's a gripe to be had. Pitchers need to be built up more slowly. A position player though? Not really anything to say about it.

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41 minutes ago, endaround said:

If people think playing in the WBC is bad you don't want to know about winter ball.

Exactly - Chourio actually appeared in more games even this winter in the Venezuelan winter league than during the WBC....which essentially just shortened the number of spring training plate appearances he would've gotten, likely against more erratic pitching than what the WBC had.

Baseball players get hurt playing baseball sometimes.  

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I wouldn't say the playing WBC that is the problem, as pointed out by so many, but rather how it was missed and he kept playing on it after it happened?

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2 hours ago, SeaBass said:

He got hurt playing baseball. What are we even talking about here??

Well, we invested in the safety salad tongs and pack backup pillows for every player when traveling... not having them play baseball is the next logical step in keeping them injury free!

"Rock, sometime, when the team is up against it, and the breaks are beating the boys, tell 'em to go out there with all they got and win just one for the Uecker. I don't know where I'll be then, Rock but I'll know about it; and I'll be happy."

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26 minutes ago, CheezWizHed said:

Well, we invested in the safety salad tongs and pack backup pillows for every player when traveling... not having them play baseball is the next logical step in keeping them injury free!

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