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1 minute ago, edfunderburk said:

I acknowledge that I am logical to a fault. Most things are black & white to me - very little gray. 

There is zero explanation that will ever make sense to me - nothing Murphy could say that would convince me that it was a good idea to pitch Patrick for three innings on Sunday afternoon with a 9-2 lead. 

That was one of Murphy’s all-time head scratchers & he’s had plenty of those. 

The answer is that Patrick started warming up in the 5th because it looked like Gasser would be lucky to finish the 5th.  What they've learned is that when a guy gets up and ready to come in it creates enough wear on the arm that it is equal to an appearance.  So, it would already have been an appearance in terms of wear.

Having him finish the game saves everyone else in the bullpen and everyone else is fresh for the next series. 

Also, Patrick had given up a lot of HRs in the prior 2 weeks and you don't want someone who is giving up a lot of dingers to not figure that out before pitching in the Great American Band Box.

I have zero issues with it.  You may differ.

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3 minutes ago, jason21nl said:

That’s some really bad managing by the Reds

This was game managing 101. Don't let Vaughn hit against Moll in any circumstance if you are Francona. 

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Letting a lefty face Vaughn with the bases loaded and game on the line is more egregious than than any of the moves Murph is questioned for.

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Just now, liveforoctober said:

This was game managing 101. Don't let Vaughn hit against Moll in any circumstance. 

How they didn’t have a righty warming up sooner is absolutely ridiculous.  

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We don't need to pinch run for Vaughn if Frelick is just going to waste an out on the first pitch and any batted ball is a run on contact situation with a 5 run lead to boot.  We've been using our bench to the point where we literally have no position players left and any pulled hamstring or sprained ankle leaves us with a pitcher playing the outfield or something.

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1 minute ago, liveforoctober said:

This was game managing 101. Don't let Vaughn hit against Moll in any circumstance. 

Yeah that's a fireable offense.

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Just now, LouisEly said:

The answer is that Patrick started warming up in the 5th because it looked like Gasser would be lucky to finish the 5th.  What they've learned is that when a guy gets up and ready to come in it creates enough wear on the arm that it is equal to an appearance.  So, it would already have been an appearance in terms of wear.

Having him finish the game saves everyone else in the bullpen and everyone else is fresh for the next series. 

Also, Patrick had given up a lot of HRs in the prior 2 weeks and you don't want someone who is giving up a lot of dingers to not figure that out before pitching in the Great American Band Box.

I have zero issues with it.  You may differ.

This would make sense except you send a guy back to Nashville the next day who didn't pitch at all. He should have pitched him a couple innings instead of pilling more pitches on Patrick. One inning sure.

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Give me one reason besides not wanting to rock the boat on a longtime Brewer great that Vaughn isn’t the regular DH over Yelich. 

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Just now, trwi7 said:

We don't need to pinch run for Vaughn if Frelick is just going to waste an out on the first pitch and any batted ball is a run on contact situation with a 5 run lead to boot.  We've been using our bench to the point where we literally have no position players left and any pulled hamstring or sprained ankle leaves us with a pitcher playing the outfield or something.

It’s so weird how they treat Vaughn

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1 minute ago, trwi7 said:

We don't need to pinch run for Vaughn if Frelick is just going to waste an out on the first pitch and any batted ball is a run on contact situation with a 5 run lead to boot.  We've been using our bench to the point where we literally have no position players left and any pulled hamstring or sprained ankle leaves us with a pitcher playing the outfield or something.

They were going to bring him in anyway to play CF.  You might as well pinch run him.

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