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55 minutes ago, wiguy94 said:

Woo and Miller have also had massive home/road splits in their career. The K-BB% numbers for Woo, Miller, and Hancock are dramatically better at home than on the road so it's hard to me to believe their overall numbers when we know Seattle is a notoriously pitcher friendly park with a batter's eye that gives hitters tons of issues. Woo and Miller pitch like aces in Seattle but on the road pitch like #5 starters.

I know the home/road splits are what they are, but it’s not easy to pitch two different ways at home and on the road. They are also pitching in front of a mediocre defense and Seattle’s park plays neutral for home runs so they still have to make pitches. Look at Miller’s savant page, that guy is not a #5 starter. 

Woo is the only one who has such extreme home/road splits that I wouldn’t trade for him and Hancock is no different than the half-dozen options we already have in the back of the rotation.

I don’t think we will trade with Seattle but they know how to develop pitching. 

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It’s not crazy to think we could trade for a Seattle starter and get the good version (home splits). We get the good version of all the other pitchers we trade for. 

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With the Padres farm system being so bad could we maybe do a quantity over quality deal with them based on how many iffy rule 5 guys we might have.

Michael King for Wilken, O'Rae, Kuehner, Manfredi, and Black/Damien Miller

I get that is a lot of not much but Wilken and O'Rae would likely be top 10 (O'Rae maybe top 5) and the rest around 20. Just throwing stuff around.

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Let me know if these seem like fair values to both sides in these trades to address all of hitting, bullpen, and rotation:

Luis Pena (Brewers #2 per Fangraphs), Bishop Letson (#7), Blake Burke (#16), Brandon Lockridge

for

SS CJ Abrams (Nationals, 2.5 years control) (convert him to CF in Milwaukee to field outfield of Chourio/Abrams/Mitchell/Lara/Frelick)

——-

Coleman Crow (#20)

for

RP Adrian Morejon (Padres, 0.5 years control)

——

Jett Williams (#4), Jose Anderson (#41)

for

SP Sandy Alcantara (Marlins, 0.5 years control) 

 

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Here is where I land on this.  Milwaukee can win this, but they need players.  I think they could use an infusion of offense, but don’t see where it comes from.  Those CJ Abrams rumors don’t make a lot of sense to me when they commit to Pratt and Ortiz is playing like he is.  Committing to Lara too is interesting.
 

They need pitching to win.  I think Skubal would be awesome.  But expensive compared to this:  go get Joe Ryan and Mason and have more than just this year as an immediate window.  For me, all prospects except Made and Adamczewski are in play.  And hesitant to trade Fischer.  Only one of Quero/Dinges and one of Hardin/Letson.  No Henderson.  Open for business on Sproat, Crow, and Ashby (yes, Ashby).  Even Gasser, but prefer not to trade him.  Frelick is open for business too.

With a two season window (the Ryan/Contraras window) you have time for recent draft picks and international signings to fill the farm back up.  
 

Get Ryan and Mason for some combination of:

Pena, Jett, Frias, Letson/Hardin, Sproat, Crow, Ashby, Frelick, Quero/Dinges, and other lower ranked players to fill it out.  I love Frelick.  Guy can help San Diego and Minnesota rebuild.  I love Ashby.  But a fresh Hall, and adding Mason makes him a lucrative rotation or pen piece.

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5 hours ago, JoeyWiemerTruther said:

Let me know if these seem like fair values to both sides in these trades to address all of hitting, bullpen, and rotation:

Luis Pena (Brewers #2 per Fangraphs), Bishop Letson (#7), Blake Burke (#16), Brandon Lockridge

for

SS CJ Abrams (Nationals, 2.5 years control) (convert him to CF in Milwaukee to field outfield of Chourio/Abrams/Mitchell/Lara/Frelick)

——-

Coleman Crow (#20)

for

RP Adrian Morejon (Padres, 0.5 years control)

——

Jett Williams (#4), Jose Anderson (#41)

for

SP Sandy Alcantara (Marlins, 0.5 years control) 

 

1. A little too much but not far off. Take out Letson and switch to someone like Dorchies and I think it's there.

2. I would do this one and think you are pretty much on the money.

3. Too much for a rental that hasn't been great. I would think it would be something like Marco and Anderson.

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1 minute ago, KCBrewerfan34 said:

Thoughts on George Springer? 

More washed than Yelich 

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Every year I'm accused of being a prospect hugger, which is true, but I haven't seen a single idea that's even given me pause. Like, go to Detroit Tigers reddit. They don't even think they're getting half of what people here are proposing.

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How about getting both Miller and Morejohn from the Padres...

  • One of Drohan, Sproat, Gasser, Crow, Hardin
  • One of the outfielders.   Payne, Frias, Adamczewski
  • Yoho
  • Lower ranked P but still in top 30...  ie Dorchies, Knoth, etc.
  • Another top 30 prospect.

 

Then I'd like to talk to the the Twins about Tait.  A left handed hitting catcher who could be expendable after the Twins draft.  Pena for Tait.  Not sure straight up would be doable, but some other minor pieces being added both ways could get it done.

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6 hours ago, PBTank said:

How about getting both Miller and Morejohn from the Padres...

  • One of Drohan, Sproat, Gasser, Crow, Hardin
  • One of the outfielders.   Payne, Frias, Adamczewski
  • Yoho
  • Lower ranked P but still in top 30...  ie Dorchies, Knoth, etc.
  • Another top 30 prospect.

 

Then I'd like to talk to the the Twins about Tait.  A left handed hitting catcher who could be expendable after the Twins draft.  Pena for Tait.  Not sure straight up would be doable, but some other minor pieces being added both ways could get it done.

NO on Pena.  Straight up NO!

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11 minutes ago, TURBO said:

NO on Pena.  Straight up NO!

Where is he going to play in MIL? Utility infielder? Convert to OF?

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3 minutes ago, Turning2 said:

Where is he going to play in MIL? Utility infielder? Convert to OF?

A lot can happen in the next couple years before he even comes up to the big leagues, but I suspect if both Pratt and Made cement themselves on the team, and Pena is showing he's legit too, you cash in on Turang and move him into his spot. But again, a lot can happen, players don't pan out, trades and injuries happen, etc., quality depth is always a great thing.

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I am all for big game hunting

We get Webb from SF

Give:

Frelick

Fisher

Pena

SF choice (Sproat, Hardin, Gasser, or 2 lower level arms)

 

Webb would be a guy I would deal Pena for.  Helps SF re tool short term with affordable talent for their terrible offense in Sal and Fisher.  Young controllable arm, and then they get Pena as the centerpiece. 

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