Onward to the future, who is your preferred 2024 field manager

[RobertCrawley]

1) Seitzer

2) Showalter

[HarveysWBs]

8 minutes ago, RobertCrawley said:

1) Seitzer

2) Showalter

1) Yeah, sure.  Makes sense

2) Hard pass.  Unless we’re canning him immediately, because teams almost as a rule enter their golden age once he’s out the door.  It’s uncanny.

[wiguy94]

I really do not get the love for Seitzer. Dude has strictly been a hitting coach his entire coaching career. Being a hitting coach is so far away from being the manager in terms of what your job entails. If you want Brewers to model their hitting development after the Braves you are better off poaching someone from their hitting development group to come run the Brewers hitting development rather than making Seitzer our manager where he won't be dealing with hitting coach duties.

[RobertCrawley]

17 minutes ago, HarveysWBs said:

1) Yeah, sure.  Makes sense

2) Hard pass.  Unless we’re canning him immediately, because teams almost as a rule enter their golden age once he’s out the door.  It’s uncanny.

If the Mets were not so impatient and went yard sale, they would have gone to the playoffs this year. Buck had them playing well toward the end., 

In 2022, they won 101 games. He was manager of the year. I think he would be great here.

[StearnsFTW]

1 hour ago, HarveysWBs said:

Yet another day where the ignore feature is absolutely essential.

[torts]

1 minute ago, StearnsFTW said:

Yet another day where the ignore feature is absolutely essential.

[jay87shot]

If we are going to spend some money and get a current manager I would go Kevin Cash or Mark Kotsay. I also always thought Joe Giradi got a bad rap but don't see him as a great fit. Any chance we could lure Derek Shelton away, I've always like him but doubt he moves on.

If from within I'd probably go with Chris Hook just because Sweet is older, Erikson has only been in A ball, and Carlos Villaneauva seems to be on the front office path.

I like Will Venebles as an option. He is an ivy grad, has lots of experience and is only 40. 

1)Venables 2)Kotsay 3)Shelton (if Kotsay or Shelton in play)

 

[nate82]

The name no one is talking about.  Brent Suter! Convince him to retire and become a manager!

This is half blue and not 100% serious.

[Jopal78]

The last manager the Brewers hired with experience was Ken Macha, and it was a flop, so likely whomever is hired for ‘24 will be a rookie manager especially with a rebuild/retool/whatever you want to call it coming in ‘25. 
 

Of course, that being said Matt Klentak just joined the Brewers FO and he was the one who first hired Gabe Kapler as manager. Kapler also spent one year as a Brewer.

[yoshii8]

I wouldn’t mind Kapler or Venable from the little research I’ve done. 

[Brewcrew82]

Pat Murphy interviewing for the job tomorrow morning, per Verducci. 

[TPlush]

8 minutes ago, Brewcrew82 said:

Pat Murphy interviewing for the job tomorrow morning, per Verducci. 

Mark: "Good morning, Pat. Oh, so nice of you to bring coffee!"

Pat: "My pleasure, Mark. So, about this job posting I applied to."

Mark: "We're so glad you decided to apply. You're just what we need. But we are a small market team, so we'd only be able to pay $19.50/hour, and unfortunately we can't cover any travel-related expenses."

Pat: "I'll take it, thank you so much Mr. Attanasio!"

Mark: "Glad to have you onboard!"

[AKCheesehead]

I’d love the hilarity of hiring David Ross and then finishing ahead of the cubs next year while cubs are still paying Ross  

[jw5511986]

1 hour ago, Brewcrew82 said:

Pat Murphy interviewing for the job tomorrow morning, per Verducci. 

I recognize that they are not the same thing but Pat Murphy was an extremely capable Head Coach at the collegiate level. Would have to know how the locker room feels about him but wouldn't be opposed to him in the short term while he grooms a successor.

[Lathund]

On paper Murph has all the qualifications. Managed at the College level, a long stint as bench coach to Counsell, management experience (albeit brief) with the Padres, and he obviously knows all the players and staff so wouldn't have any issues working with the existing staff (as MA announced they're staying). But I don't know what it is, I just don't see it as a very good idea, or that he's what the team is truly looking for. 

I suspect they would've loved to have gotten Vogt. Will Venable is another, but IIRC he's turned down opportunities to interview elsewhere; I suspect because he knows he'll be the Rangers manager when Bochy retires. I also don't see what'd be so attractive about Seitzer; hiring the hitting coach of a good offense as your manager isn't somehow going to transform your own offense. Nor is there necessarily any reason to think the qualities of a hitting coach transfer to being a manager. Chris Hook was mentioned by some too. Presumably based on the strength of the Brewers pitching development, but why would we want to take him away from that then? If he wants a promotion and/or raise, I imagine it would be to some kind of "Director of Pitching Performance" rather than manager. 

But really, having said all this, I don't know how we as fans can possibly know with any real certainty who would or wouldn't make a good manager. We don't know what they're like as people, what their communication skills are (outside of interviews and such), their interpersonal skills, their knowledge of the game and analytics, or how the decisions behind the observable in-game decisions come about and their part in it etc. So I don't have any strong opinions. 

Now one thing that I'd really be curious about is to see how, if at all, the in-game decisions change with a new manager. Would be a way to know how much of what we associate with CC in terms of that is him, and how much is the front office. Most likely it's a combination of the two, but we'll see. Like I wonder about things like the reverse platoon split players being used in typical platoons for instance. Could make a real case that it's a result of either oldschool manager stuff (Righty vs lefty, and that's it) or extreme reliance on analytics (i.e everything suggest there *shouldn't* be a reverse platoon split for this player). Just one example, another is the bullpen usage. So which things change, and which don't, could be interesting. 

[homer]

Rickie Weeks!

 

 

[Bulldogboy]

Rickie Weeks? Wow. Mattingly would be great. Call Molina and see if he's interested. Anyone but Kapler who has bombed in two jobs already and lost the clubhouse in both.

[titletownking]

Erik Kratz would be my number 1. 

[wibadgers23]

48 minutes ago, homer said:

Rickie Weeks!

 

 

That list is pretty depressing but I guess that’s what happens when you’re having to scramble to hire someone. A big no thanks to Murphy. That would be about as exciting as watching paint dry.

[Austin Tatious]

I’m intrigued by Clayton McCullough, the Dodgers first base coach.  From what I’ve googled, he was a candidate in Cleveland and they did like him.  Apparently the Dodgers rave about him.  

But I agree with @Lathund, we, as fans, don’t have access to enough information to have more than a hunch on who would be good.  

[Ron Robinsons Beard]

The fact that Attanasio said yesterday that the entire coaching staff is returning sans Counsell tells me that they are looking to fill this internally. That means someone like Murphy, Viillanueva, Weeks or McKinven. Maybe someone like Matt Erickson or Rick Sweet. 

[Austin Tatious]

1 minute ago, Ron Robinsons Beard said:

The fact that Attanasio said yesterday that the entire coaching staff is returning sans Counsell tells me that they are looking to fill this internally. That means someone like Murphy, Viillanueva, Weeks or McKinven. Maybe someone like Matt Erickson or Rick Sweet. 

Villanueva would be interesting while keeping Pat Murphy as a mentor of sorts.  

[patrickgpe]

24 minutes ago, Ron Robinsons Beard said:

The fact that Attanasio said yesterday that the entire coaching staff is returning sans Counsell tells me that they are looking to fill this internally. That means someone like Murphy, Viillanueva, Weeks or McKinven. Maybe someone like Matt Erickson or Rick Sweet. 

That’s bs. How can you hire a decent manager if he can’t have any say in his staff and stick him with a bunch of guys loyal to the last. This is screaming Murphy is the guy. 

[nate82]

1 hour ago, homer said:

Rickie Weeks!

 

 

I had completely forgot they had added Weeks to the coaching staff in the minors.  I think he will need to wait a few more years before getting a manager position but it is nice to see the Brewers interviewing him to give him that experience.  It also puts his name out there as a possible candidate for another team. 

Not sure I would take Mattingly.  The Brewers front office and his style would be a complete clash.  The Brewers are more analytical and I think that was the reason the Dodgers moved on from him and the Marlins also.  Of that list I would have the top three in no particular order as Espada, McCullough and Snitker. 

I like Weeks but he needs some more grooming and getting him ready to take that leap.  I am not sure he is there yet.  Everyone needs to remember that Counsell had zero experience managing when the Brewers made him their manager.  He was only in the front office at the time.  Weeks actually has more coaching experience than Counsell did at the time of his hire as manager. 

[dlk9s]

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