Brewers and Chourio: Heyman reports 8 years, $80 million + 2 club option years

[monty57]

2 hours ago, DR28 said:

Hoskins would be a great fit! Just too bad that someone will give him more money then we can.

Probably, but MLBtr has him estimated at 2 years/$36M. That fits in nicely to the period where our young guys are still pre-arby, and we won't have much money on the books. Sign him and trade Burnes (netting at least one MLB-ready prospect), and we're set to be competitive as soon as this year. 

Follow the Chourio extension with extensions to some of the other young guys, and the period of to remain competitive extends for the next 5-10 years. I guess since Atlanta stole the Braves from us, we can steal their winning strategy from them.

[bigred]

35 minutes ago, Lathund said:

Automatic ban for the many posters who consistently spell his name "Huira"

I made a mistake. I'm only human though, sooooo......🤷‍♂️

[CheezWizHed]

4 hours ago, bigred said:

Well, you just mentioned Huira soooooooo.........you should be banned now? 🤣

 

But yes, this is good news about Chourio.  I was OK when we thought it was shorter and higher $$, so this just seems very low risk with high upside.  Bravo!

[Team Canada]

2 hours ago, Fear The Chorizo said:

If they aren't trading multiple other young OFs this offseason it seems to make alot of sense to have Yelich be their fulltime DH starting in 2024 and then give LF to Chourio, With Mitchell and Frelick in center and right and Wiemer in AAA to refine his hitting approach in the batters box.  

Agreed 100%. There's really no wrong answer though, this OF is going to be elite.

[CheezWizHed]

I would hope Chourio starts a little lower in the lineup to take pressure off of him.  He is essentially jumping AAA.  If he is crushing the ball then move him up.

[nate82]

7 minutes ago, wibadgers23 said:

Black and Chourio in the opening day lineup will be quite enjoyable.

I am not sure Black makes it on the opening day lineup but he definitely has a chance.

[DR28]

32 minutes ago, wibadgers23 said:

Black and Chourio in the opening day lineup will be quite enjoyable.

Would love to see it.... Too bad Black doesnt play 2B anymore.

Does he have the arm for 3rd?

[DR28]

34 minutes ago, monty57 said:

Probably, but MLBtr has him estimated at 2 years/$36M. That fits in nicely to the period where our young guys are still pre-arby, and we won't have much money on the books. Sign him and trade Burnes (netting at least one MLB-ready prospect), and we're set to be competitive as soon as this year. 

Follow the Chourio extension with extensions to some of the other young guys, and the period of to remain competitive extends for the next 5-10 years. I guess since Atlanta stole the Braves from us, we can steal their winning strategy from them.

Man, if we could also extend William........ Along with getting Hoskins...... This would be the best offseason for me as a Brewers fan ever!

[tmwiese55]

1 hour ago, markedman5 said:

Yelich isn’t moving down to 5 or 6 in the order and he shouldn’t.

I fully expect 1 of our young outfielders to be included in a trade this winter.

No idea who.

If they make a move for an established MLB player in a trade then sure using one of the young guys makes sense since the other team needs to be given something of value.

Otherwise, I don't see the need to trade them in order to clear a jam.  Literally 0 of these guys have proven anything at the MLB level. The chances of them all being good starter level guys is very low.  The chances of one or more being injured at any given time is high.  Yelich should be moved to DH anyway most days.    Wiemer should be in AAA to start the year anyway as he was completely overwhelmed at the plate.  They all have options left.  No rush IMO to make a decision on these guys, see how the year plays out.

If your hand does get forced Taylor is the one to go. Sure he's the only one who's proven anything but he's also more money and only has I think 3 years left.  Trade him for a lottery ticket or two if needed, hold onto the young guys and see which ones pan out. 

[DR28]

12 minutes ago, tmwiese55 said:

If they make a move for an established MLB player in a trade then sure using one of the young guys makes sense since the other team needs to be given something of value.

Otherwise, I don't see the need to trade them in order to clear a jam.  Literally 0 of these guys have proven anything at the MLB level. The chances of them all being good starter level guys is very low.  The chances of one or more being injured at any given time is high.  Yelich should be moved to DH anyway most days.    Wiemer should be in AAA to start the year anyway as he was completely overwhelmed at the plate.  They all have options left.  No rush IMO to make a decision on these guys, see how the year plays out.

If your hand does get forced Taylor is the one to go. Sure he's the only one who's proven anything but he's also more money and only has I think 3 years left.  Trade him for a lottery ticket or two if needed, hold onto the young guys and see which ones pan out. 

Idk man, Mitchell/Taylor could be a damn good platoon in RF... Will be very interesting to see how the rest of offseason unfolds now.

[tmwiese55]

2 minutes ago, DR28 said:

Idk man, Mitchell/Taylor could be a damn good platoon in RF... Will be very interesting to see how the rest of offseason unfolds now.

Yea, that's why I just keep them all and see what happens.    But if I'm trading one (just to clear a spot)it's gonna be the one who's over 30 and only has 3 years left and has pretty much proven he is what he is.    The others have 6-7 years left and have the upside to be more than a borderline starter type.  Of course, I do expect 1-2 to flop as well though to be less than what Taylor has become.      Taylor is just such a steady reliable vet to have on the roster as all these young guys get their feet wet.  And again, Wiemer has no business in MLB right now so I don't see the roster crunch issue people are worried about. 

As of now anyway, we'll see what trades happen. But like most here I'd assume one of the young OFs is who would be traded in a move for say some kind of proven corner IF type. 

[SF70]

11 minutes ago, DR28 said:

Idk man, Mitchell/Taylor could be a damn good platoon in RF... Will be very interesting to see how the rest of offseason unfolds now.

Please no platoon, especially now that CC is gone. Play the best and let him face the opposite hand to become a better player.

[Fear The Chorizo]

Following this Chourio deal that basically affirms their plan to have him on their Opening Day 2024 roster, it's quite exciting knowing there's a really good chance the Brewers could field an everyday position player roster consisting of Yelich, Adames, Mr. Vet 1B Retread, Contreras, and then five 1st or 2nd year MLB players (Black at 3rd, Turang at 2nd, and then 3 young OFs between Chourio/Mitchell/Frelick/Wiemer).  Not to mention Gasser in the rotation and Uribe throwing gas in the pen.  Makes you wonder just how good they'd be if they could ever develop hitting...

It also has me thinking they could try to make a splash 1B trade happen this offseason that does add a good chunk of salary to their payroll to offset the savings they're already baking in by nontendering Woodruff and not paying Winker to be awful on the 40 man roster.  The Brewers truly are one of the more intriguing teams this offseason based on how many different directions they could go with buying/selling via trade and free agency, and it's all because they're seeing the payoff of incremental improvements to their farm system that have occurred over the past 5-6 seasons (scouting, int'l signing, drafting, pitching lab, instructional development programs, etc).

[kestrel79]

Exciting!

[Outlander]

3 minutes ago, SF70 said:

Please no platoon, especially now that CC is gone. Play the best and let him face the opposite hand to become a better player.

Well that is why platoons are used so much, the best depends on the guy pitching. Really good players are the best no matter who pitches but the Brewers will never have a lineup full of really good players that don't require a platoon.

[Underachiever]

1 hour ago, monty57 said:

Probably, but MLBtr has him estimated at 2 years/$36M.

In other words, it would take the same money to sign Hoskins as it took to sign Yasmani Grandal 5 seasons ago. Count me in.

[SF70]

Remember this day fellow Brewers fans.

The last 7+ years have just been the appetizer— today is the beginning of the main course followed by the desert—10 years or there-abouts of excellence— including a WS and maybe another.

Its really gonna happen.

[SF70]

7 minutes ago, Outlander said:

Well that is why platoons are used so much, the best depends on the guy pitching. Really good players are the best no matter who pitches but the Brewers will never have a lineup full of really good players that don't require a platoon.

Huh?

Thats the point of letting talented players hit all-handed pitching. The Kind of talent we finally have now big-leagued. Let ‘em play!

[owbc]

5 minutes ago, SF70 said:

Remember this day fellow Brewers fans.

The last 7+ years have just been the appetizer— today is the beginning of the main course followed by the desert—10 years or there-abouts of excellence— including a WS and maybe another.

Its really gonna happen.

Yep, Chourio is going to lead us to the promised land. We can come back to this thread when he sends Counsell and the Cubs packing in the postseason. 

[HarveysWBs]

1 hour ago, SRB said:

but still this a rare move that should be beyond criticism for any Brewer fan 😂

What, are you new around here?

[csbysam]

Going from losing CC to signing Chourio is such a whiplash of emotions. Getting jacked for this season. Let’s see what else chef Arnold aka GOAT GM cooks up. 

[TURBO]

I don't see any reason Black can't move back to 2B.  That is where he played in Appleton.  Maybe to make room for Wilken at 3B in the near future?

After this year, could we see Wilken at 3B, Turang at SS, Black at 2B and Yelich orHoskins at 1B?  Yelich at DH.  Paving the way for a Mitchell, Chourio, Frelick OF. (Taylor as a 4th OFer)

Plus Boeve is on the way too.

It sure seems we have 3B covered in the near future, so I don't really want to go after a long contracted 3B via trade or FA.

The future's so bright, I gotta wear shades...

[DR28]

I sure hope Black becomes our everyday 2B, I'm over Turang... He's never gonna hit.

[Cool Hand Lucroy]

I love this deal. It's pretty low-risk for the team (Chourio's always going to have trade value based on the skillset, even if he struggles early, especially at this price), and it shows a lot of faith in a player. These are always fascinating economic situations. Chourio might be giving up $100 mil in hypothetical value, but it's clear what he's trading it for, and he'll still have a shot at another big contract if he can stick in the bigs.

Good day to be a Brewer fan. 

[Ron Robinsons Beard]

14 minutes ago, DR28 said:

I sure hope Black becomes our everyday 2B, I'm over Turang... He's never gonna hit.

After a measly 400 MLB at-bats? Yeesh. 

It sure is a good thing a guy like Jim Gantner played when he did, because today's fan never would have had patience for him.