AZ Suarez rumors

[Redd Vencher]

IKF isn't really an upgrade. His season numbers say so, but Ortiz is outhitting him since the Brewers bottomed out at 21-25. (95 wRC+ to 69 wRC+)

[BrewerFan]

3 hours ago, Rick Daltons Flamethrower said:

I would prefer getting a starting SS who plays great defenseand can hit 250. Is that too much to ask for? His name is Oneil Cruz. Not a two month rental. Pittsburgh needs pitching help. 

Cruz is not a great fielding SS. If he were... the Pirates would not have taken him and moved him to the OF.

He does have a ton of power and ability... but he's not displacing Ortiz at SS. 

I'd be alright if you made a move and Collins came in to play 2nd or something along those lines(I don't know how good he is at 2nd, but assuming he's good). 

Cruz hits the ball harder than anyone else. That's going to turn into 30-40 HR seasons...even if it may be low 200 BA. 

[Team Canada]

1 hour ago, Bango said:

I noticed that as well and thought the same thing. Circumstances made it logical, but it was a first that I can recall this season and could be symbolic.

Welcome!

[BrewerFan]

4 hours ago, BrewLongma34 said:

Yoho is a stud!  Best be for sure to add the likes of Yoho.   He’s the next big wonder arm that comes from our system.  

Is he though? He throws in the low 90s and has a really good change that...seldom lands in the zone. Devin Williams when he was throwing well had a better change, threw in the mid 90s... and when he was throwing in the low 90s, it was really nerve wracking. 

I'll take Wichrowski over Yoho. Yoho is more refined, but he seems like he's pretty limited. Trading now would be selling high on a cheap, late round pick we signed for near the minimum amount. 

[BrewerFan]

8 hours ago, Jim French Stepstool said:

IMO, Turang moving to SS today was simply a byproduct of the late inning moves, that Murphy wanted to hold back Monasterio to run for Vaughn if need be, Monasterio was the last person on the bench who's been used at 1B, and Frelick was apparently off-limits.

Yeah, but it's also the first time he's played SS in a while. Even when he benched Ortiz, he played Monasterio at SS. So...this is at least noteworthy. Even if it simply means they would consider playing Siegler more at 3B vs tough righties for example. 

[StearnsFTW]

8 hours ago, Redd Vencher said:

IKF isn't really an upgrade. His season numbers say so, but Ortiz is outhitting him since the Brewers bottomed out at 21-25. (95 wRC+ to 69 wRC+)

He'd be a pretty big upgrade over Monasterio though.  I wouldn't give up much for him, but I'd be happy to have him.

[Lloyd330]

If we can get Suarez for Henderson and a couple of other low end prospects, you do it. 

We haven't gone all in since 2018. 

Wonder if we could unload Hoskins in the deal

[Scooterfletcher]

I’d rather see if we can send Cortes back to NYY along with Hoskins (with us paying his salary, and Patrick or Myers for Rice.   
 

Color me against a rental like Suarez being our target.   Yanks trade for Rice would be much preferred.

[Matt]

There's a strong, if not likely, chance that the Brewers are going to need four new starting pitchers next year with Quintana, Cortes, Woody, and Peralta gone. They can't afford to throw away cheap locked up players for two months of a corner bat. 

[Madhawk23]

28 minutes ago, Scooterfletcher said:

I’d rather see if we can send Cortes back to NYY along with Hoskins (with us paying his salary, and Patrick or Myers for Rice.   
 

Color me against a rental like Suarez being our target.   Yanks trade for Rice would be much preferred.

I've seen Rice's name mentioned a few times on the boards over the past few weeks, but I guess I'm curious - why would the Yanks be so quick to move a guy like that?  Did a national writer (from NY) suggest that he might be available?  Aren't they going to need a 1B here soon when Goldy is gone after this season?  Also, do the Yankees really want Cortes and Hoskins?  

Sorry - not trying to bash your trade suggestion, but I'm just having a hard time seeing a match here.  But, maybe I'm not seeing it clearly?  

[TURBO]

Finding a team to take on Hoskins will just cost us more in prospects.

I am against including Henderson in a deal for Suarez.  I just hate the idea of including a cost controlled possible top of the rotation pitcher for 2 months of a guy that plays below average defense but will hit some homers.

It's a mistake for an organization that refuses to spend.

[Scooterfletcher]

22 minutes ago, Madhawk23 said:

I've seen Rice's name mentioned a few times on the boards over the past few weeks, but I guess I'm curious - why would the Yanks be so quick to move a guy like that?  Did a national writer (from NY) suggest that he might be available?  Aren't they going to need a 1B here soon when Goldy is gone after this season?  Also, do the Yankees really want Cortes and Hoskins?  

Sorry - not trying to bash your trade suggestion, but I'm just having a hard time seeing a match here.  But, maybe I'm not seeing it clearly?  

 

Somebody of some level of a national reporter or a NY guy (not one of the top ones) wanted the Yanks to go after Myers or Patrick and dangled Ben Rice.   I too feel that’s light and that Cortes and Hoskins (if we paid their salary) might give them the rest of the year boost for their playoff run when combined with the controllable Patrick/Myers…..maybe that’s enough.

[Brewer77]

9 minutes ago, TURBO said:

Finding a team to take on Hoskins will just cost us more in prospects.

I am against including Henderson in a deal for Suarez.  I just hate the idea of including a cost controlled possible top of the rotation pitcher for 2 months of a guy that plays below average defense but will hit some homers.

It's a mistake for an organization that refuses to spend.

Suarez has a 143 wRC+, which would make him far and away the best hitter on the Brewers this season (Yelich, Frelick, and Chourio are all around 115). I think you’re really selling his bat short by how you have framed it

Now if you want to question if that type of production will be sustained in Milwaukee and if it’s worth the risk that it doesn’t, be my guest

 

[gregmag]

Suarez is having a career year at 33 — 143 OPS+ to 113 career.  He has hit two thirds of his homers at home; his road OPS is .783.  Everything about his season screams regression.  He would likely be a modest offensive upgrade and a substantial defensive downgrade. I can’t see how he’s worth serious assets. 

[narwhalattack]

I’m not a fan of trading away significant talent for a rental who’s on the wrong side of 30. If he can be had for cheap, then sure. But since that’s unlikely, I’m more than fine with passing on him.

[umphrey]

Mis 

Priester

Patrick

Gasser

That's 4/5th of a rotation and it assumes Peralta and Woody are both gone. Then we still have Hall, Ashby, Myers, Henderson. So I don't really mind trading a SP as long as they pick the right guy to send out the door. 

[TURBO]

USA TODAY’s Bob Nightengale says the Tigers “would love to finalize a deal for (Eugenio) Suárez” during the team’s series against the Diamondbacks that begins Monday.

 

The Tigers could definitely use more right-handed power, and Suárez brings plenty of it to the table. If the Tigers get a deal done, it’d turn Zach McKinstry back into more of a utilityman and probably result in less playing time for Wenceel Pérez and Matt Vierling.

 

Source: Bob Nightengale

[Madhawk23]

15 minutes ago, TURBO said:

USA TODAY’s Bob Nightengale says the Tigers “would love to finalize a deal for (Eugenio) Suárez” during the team’s series against the Diamondbacks that begins Monday.

 

The Tigers could definitely use more right-handed power, and Suárez brings plenty of it to the table. If the Tigers get a deal done, it’d turn Zach McKinstry back into more of a utilityman and probably result in less playing time for Wenceel Pérez and Matt Vierling.

 

Source: Bob Nightengale

Whoever gets Suarez at this stage is probably going to have to do so with a massive overpay in prospect capital.  At this stage, I think I would prefer that a team like the Tigers or Mariners land him, as I just don't think we can get into a bidding war here.  Would love to add a power bat to this lineup, but something tells me that we can get creative in finding more power for this lineup without giving up a ton for a rental bat like Suarez.  Just please keep him away from the north side of Chicago!  

[patrickgpe]

https://x.com/hgomez27/status/1949658826698813562

I would not be happy if this is the trade, three top 20 prospects for a rental

 

 

@hgomez27

SOURCE: The #Brewers emerge now as a top suitor for #Diamondbacks third baseman All-Star Eugenio Suárez. Prospects like RHP Logan Henderson, RHP Brett Wichrowski, and 2B Josh Adamczewski are involving in the proposal trade. #Mariners, #Cubs and #Phillies still show a lot of interest in him.

[TURBO]

I don't care who gets him, as long as it isn't us.

Cubs getting him might make them stronger NOW, but weaker in the future.  For that reason, I don't mind them being the team that overpays for his services.

[Matt]

1 hour ago, patrickgpe said:

https://x.com/hgomez27/status/1949658826698813562

I would not be happy if this is the trade, three top 20 prospects for a rental

 

 

@hgomez27

SOURCE: The #Brewers emerge now as a top suitor for #Diamondbacks third baseman All-Star Eugenio Suárez. Prospects like RHP Logan Henderson, RHP Brett Wichrowski, and 2B Josh Adamczewski are involving in the proposal trade. #Mariners, #Cubs and #Phillies still show a lot of interest in him.

That appears to have been taken from a fake trade the JS writers proposed last week. 

[Brian]

20 hours ago, BrewLongma34 said:

Yoho is a stud!  Best be for sure to add the likes of Yoho.   He’s the next big wonder arm that comes from our system.  

Hopefully he got better from when he was called up before https://www.mlb.com/player/craig-yoho-684974

[Lloyd330]

1 hour ago, TURBO said:

I don't care who gets him, as long as it isn't us.

Cubs getting him might make them stronger NOW, but weaker in the future.  For that reason, I don't mind them being the team that overpays for his services.

They overpay, beat us for division and we lose WC series...Rinse and repeat

[Lloyd330]

I just dont get why some of you guys are against trading when we have a legit chance....

Oh No...We cant give up on a guy that could be good for a guy that has proven this year that he is a difference maker. 

If we would have traded Henderson in the offseasn ( when he was our 17th best prospect) none of you would be against the trade

[TURBO]

11 minutes ago, Lloyd330 said:

I just dont get why some of you guys are against trading when we have a legit chance....

Oh No...We cant give up on a guy that could be good for a guy that has proven this year that he is a difference maker. 

If we would have traded Henderson in the offseasn ( when he was our 17th best prospect) none of you would be against the trade

For me personally, it's the 2 - 2.5 month rental that makes me against acquiring Suarez.

You trade a guy like Henderson with several years of control, for a guy that will be here 2 months.  Just isn't prudent for our organization.

That is the part I can't stomach.