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What are they gonna do with 10 starting pitchers though. They probably should keep Freddy for '26 and QO Woody too. 

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33 minutes ago, TURBO said:

For me personally, it's the 2 - 2.5 month rental that makes me against acquiring Suarez.

You trade a guy like Henderson with several years of control, for a guy that will be here 2 months.  Just isn't prudent for our organization.

That is the part I can't stomach.

it really just depends how the organization views Henderson. If they think he has a good shot at being a #3, then that seems too pricey to give up for a rental.  If they see him as a 4/5, also having a lot of other arms in the same mix and a staff that can identify and maximize pitchers, then he's expendable, especially with a low-90s fastball whose trade value is possibly peak.

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32 minutes ago, TURBO said:

For me personally, it's the 2 - 2.5 month rental that makes me against acquiring Suarez.

You trade a guy like Henderson with several years of control, for a guy that will be here 2 months.  Just isn't prudent for our organization.

That is the part I can't stomach.

If Suarez was a shortstop, I could get there with Pratt (because of Made/Pena in the system), and would have a harder time dealing Henderson (because I see him as one of our top 3 starters next year), but would be willing to have either be the headliner. The upgrade would be massive. 

But for me, the upgrade to Suarez (pushing Durbin into Mona's utility role) isn't big enough to merit headlining a deal with either of those two.

I would have to start with someone a little lower on our prospect board. Letson and Crow+ a flyer. 

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The Mariners have apparently moved on from Suarez for the moment, although they might have just leaked that information to try and bring the price down. 

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I don’t think the Cubs even want him.  They have more than enough power and won’t bail on Shaw as the future.   For those worried,  I doubt he goes there and we shouldn’t worry on rumors of them . 

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AZ prospect huggers in shambles 

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On 7/27/2025 at 9:49 PM, wiguy94 said:

Feel like most here would not want to do this?

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Wouldn't trade all 3 for him. Losing Adamczewski would sting big time. That kid can flat out hit. 

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7 hours ago, Lloyd330 said:

I just dont get why some of you guys are against trading when we have a legit chance....

Oh No...We cant give up on a guy that could be good for a guy that has proven this year that he is a difference maker. 

If we would have traded Henderson in the offseasn ( when he was our 17th best prospect) none of you would be against the trade

In the offseason when the Brewers traded for a top 100 prospect to play third, moved their impressive rookie 3B over to play short, had a platinum glove winner at second, Hoskins at 1B, and Yeli to DH? 

Yes, I would have been furious with that offseason trade. 

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3 hours ago, Matt said:

In the offseason when the Brewers traded for a top 100 prospect to play third, moved their impressive rookie 3B over to play short, had a platinum glove winner at second, Hoskins at 1B, and Yeli to DH? 

Yes, I would have been furious with that offseason trade. 

I have no idea who we're talking about here. What top 100 prospect did we trade for to play 3rd?

I could be missing it, but... we tried Dunn there, then Durbin there, neither sniffed the top 100. Maybe Dunn was close at one point, but not that I recall. Durbin wasn't even top 30 for the Yankees. 

I might be missing someone really obvious, but I don't think we traded for a top 100 to play 3rd. 

Ortiz and Turang were top 100 and then Hoskins and Yelich made the lineup look solid, but 3B was the question. Durbin has been a very good answer there either way. 

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17 hours ago, Lloyd330 said:

I just dont get why some of you guys are against trading when we have a legit chance....

Oh No...We cant give up on a guy that could be good for a guy that has proven this year that he is a difference maker. 

If we would have traded Henderson in the offseasn ( when he was our 17th best prospect) none of you would be against the trade

Ok...well, if you say he was the 17th, I'll take your word for it, but yes, I would have.

I'd have felt BETTER about it knowing you're going to be able to make the QO and get a pick right after the first round, so... yeah, it wouldn't have been the EXACT same scenario.

Now he's a top 100 prospect as a starting pitcher for a guy who... probably costs that+ and hasn't hit particularly well away from AZ. Hell, if you're talking about before this year, he hadn't hit that well in the last 3-4 years. 

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They overpay, beat us for division and we lose WC series...Rinse and repeat

 

 

What? The CUBS "overpay, beat us for division, we lost WC series... Rinse and repeat." 

 

Are you of the belief the Brewers have been finishing behind the Cubs after they've overpaid and that's been happening over and over? They've won one Division Title since 2017 and that was in the strike shortened year. 

We've won the division 4 times in that stretch and we're in 1st this year(Which...would make 5). So... yeah, that hasn't been "rinse and repeat." 

 

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Teams like the Cubs, When they have the opportunity to upgrade, they do. 

Some of you like hanging onto prospects at the thought they could be good. 

I'm not saying trade Made, Pena for Pratt for Suarez, but Henderson for him is fine. 

Henderson has just of a chance of being a top 3 starter as he does being Taylor Jungmann, Tyler Thornburg Luis Ortiz or Ethan Small

 

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1 hour ago, Lloyd330 said:

Teams like the Cubs, When they have the opportunity to upgrade, they do. 

Teams like the Cubs can spend prospect capital because they know they can just replace any potential loss from a trade by spending in free agency. It's just not the same risk for bigger market teams as it is for the Brewers.

That said, I understand the sentiment, and given our deep farm and the fact we're just about to enter August with the best record in baseball, if we're ever going to stretch our resources, this seems like a good year to do so. Should/might/could/may be an interesting next couple days!

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2 hours ago, Lloyd330 said:

Teams like the Cubs, When they have the opportunity to upgrade, they do. 

Some of you like hanging onto prospects at the thought they could be good. 

I'm not saying trade Made, Pena for Pratt for Suarez, but Henderson for him is fine. 

Henderson has just of a chance of being a top 3 starter as he does being Taylor Jungmann, Tyler Thornburg Luis Ortiz or Ethan Small

 

lol at comparing Henderson to Small …..just stop……..Small was never good……Henderson has excelled at every level 

im not saying they shouldn’t move him……but let’s at least be honest about what we are moving. 6 years of control vs 2 months. 

Ps there is the other end of that spectrum too…….Suarez could struggle once acquired and then leave…….its happened many times before with trade deadline rentals. Plus he’s a poor defender.

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If we are acquiring rentals, we should be trading depth guys like Burke and Wichrowski.

Henderson, Made, Pratt, etc should be saved for cost controlled talent.

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16 minutes ago, wallus said:

If we are acquiring rentals, we should be trading depth guys like Burke and Wichrowski.

Henderson, Made, Pratt, etc should be saved for cost controlled talent.

I think if you had a rental in a position of extreme need, then you could get to Pratt or Henderson for a rental. (Frankie Lindor or Bobby Witt Jr. was available as a rental right now, I would do Pratt or Henderson in a flash.)

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2 hours ago, Lloyd330 said:

Teams like the Cubs, When they have the opportunity to upgrade, they do. 

Some of you like hanging onto prospects at the thought they could be good. 

I'm not saying trade Made, Pena for Pratt for Suarez, but Henderson for him is fine. 

Henderson has just of a chance of being a top 3 starter as he does being Taylor Jungmann, Tyler Thornburg Luis Ortiz or Ethan Small

 

The Cubs can do that because they have an astronomically higher payroll than we do. If they give up prospects for a rental, they can go sign another 2-3 free agents the next year. We don't have that luxury.

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1 hour ago, markedman5 said:

lol at comparing Henderson to Small …..just stop……..Small was never good……Henderson has excelled at every level 

im not saying they shouldn’t move him……but let’s at least be honest about what we are moving. 6 years of control vs 2 months. 

Ps there is the other end of that spectrum too…….Suarez could struggle once acquired and then leave…….its happened many times before with trade deadline rentals. Plus he’s a poor defender.

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1 hour ago, markedman5 said:

lol at comparing Henderson to Small …..just stop……..Small was never good……Henderson has excelled at every level 

im not saying they shouldn’t move him……but let’s at least be honest about what we are moving. 6 years of control vs 2 months. 

Ps there is the other end of that spectrum too…….Suarez could struggle once acquired and then leave…….its happened many times before with trade deadline rentals. Plus he’s a poor defender.

Small was a top 5 prospect for us, It doesn't take much effort to look at Small stats and realize that they are very comparable. 

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2 minutes ago, Lloyd330 said:

Small was a top 5 prospect for us, It doesn't take much effort to look at Small stats and realize that they are very comparable. 

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Small was a highly ranked prospect for the Brewers when the Brewers had a very weak farm system. That's not the same as being a highly ranked prospect when the Brewers have a strong farm system like they currently do. Ethan Small was certainly never pushing to be a Top 100 prospect like Henderson currently is.

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Eugenio Suárez is out of Arizona’s lineup Tuesday after leaving Monday’s game with a right hand contusion.
 
Suárez was hit by a pitch last night, and we assume that’s the reason for his absence, though it’s also possible it’s because a trade is in the works. X-rays last night came back negative.
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