Trade deadline day thread

[Playing Catch]

Those Dodgers and Padres teams are going to get old quick. Padres already on the hook for $133,000,000 in guaranteed contracts in... 2030. Of course, no Dodger or Padres fan cares so long as they have a shot at the title, but with those aging rosters, I'll be curious how they unravel the knot.

Miller goes to his first of four arbitration seasons in 2026. He'll still have a ton of value for the next year or two before his salary catches up to his talent.

[Brewin]

24 minutes ago, Brewer77 said:

AJ Preller is ******* crazy giving up a top 5 prospect for a closer

If Preller was the Brewers GM I would be worried about some of the more "prospect loving" posters on this board. Many here don't like to trade a prospect in our top 20, let alone a top five in all of MLB prospect for a closer...WOW

I realize SD and MKE are different markets, but he is a go for it today, screw the future GM completely

 

[JCREW]

46 minutes ago, duewizard said:

That'll be expensive

Fangraphs Ranks and FV

DeVries - SDP#2 - 50FV - High A SS

Nett - SDP#10 - 40+FV - AA MIRP

Baez - SDP#26 - 35+FV - AA SP

Nunez - SDP#35 - 35+FV - AAA SIRP

 

[yfinn6]

Prospects are less valuable when you can spend as much money as you want. 

[wntrtxn21]

49 minutes ago, JCREW said:

How about this for insane and off-the-wall:

Collins, Quintana, Cortes -> SD

Tatis -> SD OF -> SD SS

Bogaerts -> MIL

No, no, no. He's scheduled to make OVER $200M (about $25.5M for the next 8 years). No thanks. 

[willie key]

I’m of the opinion to not even waste any of these insane prices for a bullpen arm.   We can convert some of these excess starters to good bullpen guys.  Myers could do a job this year. 

[JCREW]

Just now, wntrtxn21 said:

No, no, no. He's scheduled to make OVER $200M (about $25.5M for the next 8 years). No thanks. 

I'd imagine that we would get SD to eat some salary, and then flip him when Pratt or Made are ready.

It's insane and off the wall. 

[homer]

7 minutes ago, JCREW said:

Fangraphs Ranks and FV

DeVries - SDP#2 - 50FV - High A Catcher

Nett - SDP#10 - 40+FV - AA MIRP

Baez - SDP#26 - 35+FV - AA SP

Nunez - SDP#35 - 35+FV - AAA SIRP

 

Isn't DeVries a SS? Or maybe I'm missing the intent of the post?

[Joseph Zarr]

1 minute ago, homer said:

Isn't DeVries a SS? Or maybe I'm missing the intent of the post?

He is most definitely a SS, yes. Fort Wayne Tin Caps in da hizzy.

[JCREW]

2 minutes ago, homer said:

Isn't DeVries a SS? Or maybe I'm missing the intent of the post?

Whoops, yup, 

Saw DeVries, thought Salas.

[Joseph Zarr]

Also, can we please keep this thread strictly about the Brewers. I have IBS. That would really help me regulate.

Thanks all. Very thoughtful. 

[liveforoctober]

I know it was never going to happen with Miller... but there were about 18 minutes last week when I dreamt of adding Mason Miller and then moving Miz to the pen and we would close down every game with Uribe, Miz, Megill, Miller. It would have been the most must watch bullpen configuration of all time.

[kestrel79]

1 minute ago, liveforoctober said:

I know it was never going to happen with Miller... but there were about 18 minutes last week when I dreamt of adding Mason Miller and then moving Miz to the pen and we would close down every game with Uribe, Miz, Megill, Miller. It would have been the most must watch bullpen configuration of all time.

The Gas Brothers. Sounds nice.

[Luke99]

Cortes to SD for Suarez?  We get better in the BP and really don't give up anything that would bother us long term.  SD can deal Cease and re plenish the coffers. 

[endaround]

15 minutes ago, JCREW said:

Fangraphs Ranks and FV

DeVries - SDP#2 - 50FV - High A SS

Nett - SDP#10 - 40+FV - AA MIRP

Baez - SDP#26 - 35+FV - AA SP

Nunez - SDP#35 - 35+FV - AAA SIRP

 

Now this is an extreme example, but this is why comparing cardinal rankings of prospects across teams doesn't work. Multiple FV 40+ are in the Padre's top 10 starting at number 6.  The first FV 40+ prospect for the Brewers is #13.

[folly412]

1 hour ago, JCREW said:

Yeah. The Angels are buying right now. That's crazy to me, except for the fact that it is exactly Arte Moreno's track record. 

Having like the worst farm system in baseball on top of it.  Had a couple of generational talents and are never truly relevant.  Horribly run franchise.  

[rccola42]

3 minutes ago, folly412 said:

Having like the worst farm system in baseball on top of it.  Had a couple of generational talents and are never truly relevant.  Horribly run franchise.  

Let's give the Angels some credit. I think they may have the 2nd worst farm system ahead of the Padres, at least temporarily.

[tmwiese55]

But at least they have an owner who wants to win, that's really the key. Spending and doing splashy moves to show the fans you want it, even if the moves are really dumb.  To me that's a good owner. Much better than one who actually does win

[adambr2]

I wonder if Arnold is lowkey wondering if Megill and Cortes would have gotten him that same package. 

[Jim French Stepstool]

1 hour ago, Brewin said:

If Preller was the Brewers GM I would be worried about some of the more "prospect loving" posters on this board. Many here don't like to trade a prospect in our top 20, let alone a top five in all of MLB prospect for a closer...WOW

I realize SD and MKE are different markets, but he is a go for it today, screw the future GM completely

 

If Preller was the GM for a market like Milwaukees', that's exactly what he'd do. Screw the future. Of course I don't see how he'd ever want a job in a market this size. 

[JCREW]

27 minutes ago, adambr2 said:

I wonder if Arnold is lowkey wondering if Megill and Cortes would have gotten him that same package. 

This is an interesting question in the world of supply and demand.

Obviously DeVries would fit in any farm system. 

But you’d have to assume that one or more of Pratt/DeVries/Made/Pena eventually gets moved. And once you have that stockpile (4 top 100 SS) other teams would know you “need” to move one, possibly devaluing them. 

Concerning the three other pitchers, our farm is deep enough that the bottom two of them might not really see the light of day. 

[Fear The Chorizo]

At least the Padres have all those WS title banners flying in their stadium as reward for being uber aggressive and gutting their organization over the years....oh wait.

Had the Padres made zero prospect trades starting a handful of seasons ago at deadlines/offseasons from what was once an absolutely loaded system, they would be a better team today than they are now.  

[Jim French Stepstool]

1 hour ago, Playing Catch said:

Those Dodgers and Padres teams are going to get old quick. Padres already on the hook for $133,000,000 in guaranteed contracts in... 2030. Of course, no Dodger or Padres fan cares so long as they have a shot at the title, but with those aging rosters, I'll be curious how they unravel the knot.

Miller goes to his first of four arbitration seasons in 2026. He'll still have a ton of value for the next year or two before his salary catches up to his talent.

If you're Preller, when this all catches up to you I think what you do is look at the other teams in MLB that aren't happy with their GM, then move to whichever one of those has the largest market.

If it's done judiciously, with very few mistakes & w/o major injuries cropping up his style can actually be effective at a place that has money to spend. But it can be a house of cards, too.

[tmwiese55]

Just went through CBS deadline thread, had a mention of Boston looking for 1B and SP help. Quintana or Cortes plus Hoskins could line up if MKE trusts Vaughn is legit.    I don't know what they have for IF/SS help that could make sense.  Old friend Toro wouldn't be bad as a Mona upgrade, but he's not really a solution to SS either.    But maybe its just an area MKE could clear salary to pay for a different move they make.   would be putting a lot of faith in Vaughn too 

[Fear The Chorizo]

3 minutes ago, Jim French Stepstool said:

If Preller was the GM for a market like Milwaukees', that's exactly what he'd do. Screw the future. Of course I don't see how he'd ever want a job in a market this size. 

well, to be fair San Diego is actually a somewhat comparable market size, they just finance the heck out of their organization to come up with cash they don't have to fund their team.  MLB has been sniffing around trying to make sure the Padres don't wake up one day with the realization that they're bankrupt.  They had to take out a loan just to make this year's payroll.

Preller probably should be canned this offseason for the mess he put the organization into.