Brewers acquire Jake Bauers from NYY

[Thurston Fluff]

This seems more like a Blake Perkins move than a move for a starter. The only difference is Perkins had an option left. I seriously doubt they have him penciled in as the starter. He does provide some power off the bench I suppose.

Question for someone who knows how arbitration works. If the Brewers cut bait before the season starts are they on the hook for his salary?

[RobertCrawley]

14 hours ago, Austin Tatious said:

I have defended a lot of the recent moves but this one is a head scratcher.  Bauers has a profile to avoid not acquire.  

Maybe the organization wants our expert hitting coaches to draw the inner MVP out of Bauers, as they have with so many of our hitters.

[Devinep]

My expert analysis of this:  gross

[edfunderburk]

3 hours ago, Thurston Fluff said:

Question for someone who knows how arbitration works. If the Brewers cut bait before the season starts are they on the hook for his salary?

My question as well 

[nate82]

To answer the arbitration question:

From: https://www.baseballamerica.com/stories/details-from-the-new-2022-2026-collective-bargaining-agreement/

Quote

A player who has been tendered an arbitration offer who reached an agreement on a contract before it is heard by the arbitration panel shall be eligible for termination pay if the player is terminated for failing to exhibit sufficient skill or competitive ability prior to Opening Day. That was not explicitly spelled out in the previous CBA.

 

[Oxy]

12 hours ago, nate82 said:

To answer the arbitration question:

From: https://www.baseballamerica.com/stories/details-from-the-new-2022-2026-collective-bargaining-agreement/

 

Uhm. So what is "Termination pay?" Sounds like something a lot less than the actual salary.

[Fear The Chorizo]

1 hour ago, Oxy said:

Uhm. So what is "Termination pay?" Sounds like something a lot less than the actual salary.

If they settle on an arby salary without having to go to a hearing, that salary is guaranteed.

 

[Lathund]

On 11/17/2023 at 10:59 PM, markedman5 said:

If history is any guide……the more BF hates it……the better the trade will be! 😉

Indeed. The usual crowd of posters who compete about who can be the most negative about every move the Brewers have made over the 7-8 years I've been visiting this site. 

It's not even the negative part I care about; if you come through that conclusion through analysing and legitimately trying to understand a trade that's fine. But it's just the automatic hyperbolic negativity, all the time, that gets me. Trash every move the team has ever made, ignore the majority of the time when you've been dead wrong; live forever on the "glory" of the automatic negativity being right a couple times, never acknowledge how you absolutely trashed the Yelich trade or wished Wade Miley got injured so the team wouldn't add him to the ML roster. No self-awareness at all. Some genuinely believe they'd make better decisions as GM than Stearns/Arnold did. 

[Ron Robinsons Beard]

On 11/19/2023 at 9:08 AM, Lathund said:

Indeed. The usual crowd of posters who compete about who can be the most negative about every move the Brewers have made over the 7-8 years I've been visiting this site. 

It's not even the negative part I care about; if you come through that conclusion through analysing and legitimately trying to understand a trade that's fine. But it's just the automatic hyperbolic negativity, all the time, that gets me. Trash every move the team has ever made, ignore the majority of the time when you've been dead wrong; live forever on the "glory" of the automatic negativity being right a couple times, never acknowledge how you absolutely trashed the Yelich trade or wished Wade Miley got injured so the team wouldn't add him to the ML roster. No self-awareness at all. Some genuinely believe they'd make better decisions as GM than Stearns/Arnold did. 

[Ron Robinsons Beard]

On 11/18/2023 at 9:06 AM, TURBO said:

What bothers me the most is the fact that since we just got this guy, does that mean we have no shot at resigning Santana for another year?

What sense does it make to pay Bauers almost 2 million on top of what it would cost to resign Santana?

I already knew we wouldn't be making a big splash at 1B, so Santana seemed like what we would end up with, now this?  Santana said all the right things about Milwaukee, and since his price tag would be relatively inexpensive, I was really hoping we'd have him back.

I really hate this trade on so many levels.

Guessing they likely don't see much upside with Santana entering his age 38 season. Which is unfortunate because he seems like a great leader and locker room guy who could put up league average numbers at 1B. 

[StearnsFTW]

4 pages.  I can only imagine why.

Which I'll have to because I sure as hell ain't reading it.

[torts]

2 hours ago, StearnsFTW said:

4 pages.  I can only imagine why.

Which I'll have to because I sure as hell ain't reading it.

[Turnbows Barber]

2 hours ago, StearnsFTW said:

4 pages.  I can only imagine why.

Which I'll have to because I sure as hell ain't reading it.

It's mostly people who are disappointed because they misread the title and thought we had acquired Jack Bauer.

Since you aren't going to read it, you'll never know if that's true or not.

[Sixtolezcano]

11 hours ago, Ron Robinsons Beard said:

Guessing they likely don't see much upside with Santana entering his age 38 season. Which is unfortunate because he seems like a great leader and locker room guy who could put up league average numbers at 1B. 

If the FO sees more in Bauers than Santana this team is in a world of trouble. 

[Ron Robinsons Beard]

On 11/22/2023 at 8:00 PM, Sixtolezcano said:

If the FO sees more in Bauers than Santana this team is in a world of trouble. 

You know what you are getting with Santana. Best case given his age, its 20 dingers and an OPS in the mid .700s. Bauers certainly has a lower floor, but he probably is also in close proximity to that ceiling as well.  

[SF70]

24 minutes ago, Ron Robinsons Beard said:

You know what you are getting with Santana. Best case given his age, its 20 dingers and an OPS in the mid .700s. Bauers certainly has a lower floor, but he probably is also in close proximity to that ceiling as well.  

Why not both?

[Ron Robinsons Beard]

2 minutes ago, SF70 said:

Why not both?

Good point. Can't imagine Santana is going to be all that pricey. 

[SF70]

1 minute ago, Ron Robinsons Beard said:

Good point. Can't imagine Santana is going to be all that pricey. 

If the Pirates don’t overpay for Santana, I believe he’ll be back. I’m wanting him back, especially at $7-8M, which is probably what he gets.

[Outlander]

4 pages is a lot for Bauers but not exactly a lot to talk about so not real surprising. He actually looked pretty decent through July. Thought he might even be a Brewers target at the trade deadline with the way Winker/Tellez and the 1B/DH castoffs were playing. Would absolutely take 232/314/497/811 out of Bauers which he was through July. However, August and September happened and he was absolutely brutal, can't hit much worse than that and struck out over 40% of the time.

[BrewerFan]

On 11/17/2023 at 2:53 PM, wiguy94 said:

I'm pretty perplexed on this one. Bauers' had solid underlying numbers last year but has not been good in his MLB career. Brewers must have been lower on Avina than I would have imagined.

I'm late to this one, but I loved Avina. I know he had a loooong way to go and it was a long shot, we have a lot of OFers, all of that. But that swing was so pretty and the power so easy, I just would have liked to have kept him. 

But my prospect evaluation has sucked compared to the Brewers, so...I'll defer to them.

[Jopal78]

On 11/27/2023 at 8:04 AM, Ron Robinsons Beard said:

Good point. Can't imagine Santana is going to be all that pricey. 

Depends what on your definition of “pricey”.

I would bet Santana won’t sign with anyone until after Rhys Hoskins finds a new home.
Using Hoskins’s salary as leverage and Santana’s own performance in ‘23, he probably looks for 10+ million dollars. While not “pricey” in the grand scheme of things, Milwaukee simply doesn’t go after players at that price often. 

[CheezWizHed]

21 hours ago, Outlander said:

4 pages is a lot for Bauers but not exactly a lot to talk about so not real surprising. 

And like every other thread over 2 pages, it has bobbed and weaved around through many other players. 😉

[Underachiever]

The Mets message board thread would have been 8 pages, but since Attanasio is cheap, we only get 4 pages.

[TURBO]

13 minutes ago, Underachiever said:

The Mets message board thread would have been 8 pages, but since Attanasio is cheap, we only get 4 pages.

 

[sveumrules]

Jake Bauers has moved down the depth chart.