2024 MLB Postseason

[MrTPlush]

The former Brewer 3B prospect, Lucas Erceg, got the save for the Royals.

 

[Underachiever]

Can I make a point for the way Brewers have operated? There is a lot of praise for all of the Orioles' young talent, and rightfully so. They have drafted well, and are set up for good things. But they are 0-5 in the playoffs the last two years, and their fans had to live through seasons from 2018 to 2021 with 110, 108, and 115 losses (25-35 in Covid year) to get where they are. That's a four-year stretch where the fans had to watch their team go 190 games under .500 (178-368). Would a lot of us still be here after all of that?

[nate82]

46 minutes ago, Underachiever said:

That's a four-year stretch where the fans had to watch their team go 190 games under .500 (178-368). Would a lot of us still be here after all of that?

While the Brewers haven't been that bad they have been bad over a 4-year stretch but they have been bad and people have stuck around.  Does it really matter if you lose 90 games instead of 100 games?

[Underachiever]

24 minutes ago, nate82 said:

While the Brewers haven't been that bad they have been bad over a 4-year stretch but they have been bad and people have stuck around.  Does it really matter if you lose 90 games instead of 100 games?

Brewers haven't had a stretch that bad since 2001-2004 (four losing seasons in a row). That pre-dates the message board era. Yes, I know that there have been boards since the 90s, but not like now. I think this place would be a ghost town if they had a stretch like that, yes. 

And it makes me shudder to think of the tone of this place with the people who stayed if you removed hope from the equation. 

[Joseph Zarr]

13 hours ago, MrTPlush said:

The former Brewer 3B prospect, Lucas Erceg, got the save for the Royals.

 

Really really happy for Erceg. The Brewers did him a solid when they traded him to the A's and back to his familiar stomping grounds out West. He's only run with his opportunities since then. It's just awesome to see him have mastery and control of his tools. He always had the raw talent with the Brewers. He struggled with repeating releases and results. Always sat mid to upper 90's on the heater. He really just hadn't mastered his change-up. Well, watching him now? His change-up is a certifiable weapon. Just an awesome development and just insanely happy for him and his family given what he's endured in his own life as a man.

[Joseph Zarr]

In other news:

 

[kestrel79]

Did anyone see the pitch location data for the pitch before Hader gave up the big hit? It looked like a strike to me and he didn't get the call. Would have ended the inning. Next pitch and it's over. I'll check that Umpire scorecard page too.

[Stealofhome]

5 minutes ago, kestrel79 said:

Did anyone see the pitch location data for the pitch before Hader gave up the big hit? It looked like a strike to me and he didn't get the call. Would have ended the inning. Next pitch and it's over. I'll check that Umpire scorecard page too.

This one? Looks like a clear ball outside:

[kestrel79]

2 minutes ago, Stealofhome said:

This one? Looks like a clear ball outside:

Dang ok. Their pitch track did look different on TV maybe thats what threw me off.

[RightFieldCoder]

1 hour ago, Underachiever said:

Brewers haven't had a stretch that bad since 2001-2004 (four losing seasons in a row). That pre-dates the message board era.

I swear I started following BFnet in 2002 or 2003 and became a "regular" by 2004. In fact I know I did because I met Mr. and Mrs. Weeks shortly after being drafted. I was only able to recognize the name because of all the talk on BFnet. That and there weren't a lot of people going around at that time with a ton of Brewers merchandise which is what made me look at their last name.

So at least some of us would still be here during/after a rough stretch.

[NewerBrewer]

Can't wait for a Yankees vs Mets world series! We've all been waiting for this!

 

I'd also be okay with the Mets breaking the streak of teams knocking out the Brewers and making it there.

[Thurston Fluff]

21 hours ago, Underachiever said:

Brewers haven't had a stretch that bad since 2001-2004 (four losing seasons in a row). That pre-dates the message board era. Yes, I know that there have been boards since the 90s, but not like now. I think this place would be a ghost town if they had a stretch like that, yes. 

And it makes me shudder to think of the tone of this place with the people who stayed if you removed hope from the equation. 

This board was around back then and it wasn't a ghost town.

[owbc]

27 minutes ago, NewerBrewer said:

Can't wait for a Yankees vs Mets world series! We've all been waiting for this!

 

I'd also be okay with the Mets breaking the streak of teams knocking out the Brewers and making it there.

I hope it’s the Padres in the NL. 

[Cool Hand Lucroy]

3 hours ago, Thurston Fluff said:

This board was around back then and it wasn't a ghost town.

Yeah, it's just different modes of fandom. I LOVED following the 2016 Brewers. Knew it was a rebuild, took a lot of pure baseball joy in just watching players play and monitoring the direction of the org. 2017 was surprisingly competitive and tons of fun despite a second-to-last day of the season elimination. That's a steadier kind of hobby. You don't expect it to deliver ecstasy or pain. It's like a gorgeous walk in the fall woods outside your house.

What we've got is full of thrills like Game 2 and losses like last night. It's like the Grand Canyon. The scenery! The rush! But sometimes you look down and your guts fall out.

Neither is better or worse. Part of the natural cycle. But I'll sure appreciate the opportunity of being in one of these October stretches, even if it includes October failure. You gotta have some risk every now and then. Keeps things spicy.

The Royals (and Tigers) definitely feel on a free-roll. I'll be pulling for KC because they've always felt like the Brewers sibling team. And I enjoyed those 2014-2015 WS teams as much as I ever have as a neutral. 

[Thurston Fluff]

1 hour ago, Cool Hand Lucroy said:

Yeah, it's just different modes of fandom. I LOVED following the 2016 Brewers. Knew it was a rebuild, took a lot of pure baseball joy in just watching players play and monitoring the direction of the org. 2017 was surprisingly competitive and tons of fun despite a second-to-last day of the season elimination. That's a steadier kind of hobby. You don't expect it to deliver ecstasy or pain. It's like a gorgeous walk in the fall woods outside your house.

What we've got is full of thrills like Game 2 and losses like last night. It's like the Grand Canyon. The scenery! The rush! But sometimes you look down and your guts fall out.

Neither is better or worse. Part of the natural cycle. But I'll sure appreciate the opportunity of being in one of these October stretches, even if it includes October failure. You gotta have some risk every now and then. Keeps things spicy.

The Royals (and Tigers) definitely feel on a free-roll. I'll be pulling for KC because they've always felt like the Brewers sibling team. And I enjoyed those 2014-2015 WS teams as much as I ever have as a neutral. 

The part of the cycle I think is the least fun is after a team wins it all and people can't enjoy the ride the next couple years if they aren't dominating all season long. The opposite of the rebuild were expectations are so high that every loss is the end of the world just isn't fun.

[UsainJolt]

1 hour ago, Thurston Fluff said:

The part of the cycle I think is the least fun is after a team wins it all and people can't enjoy the ride the next couple years if they aren't dominating all season long. The opposite of the rebuild were expectations are so high that every loss is the end of the world just isn't fun.

Reminds me of our neighbors to the south, post-their two deep playoff runs. It seemed like everyone came out tight after that and, combined with players getting old and injury-prone, the burden of expectation made the next few seasons a slog for them once the slogan went from “try not to suck” to “how the hell did we lose game 163 to a team spending 2.5x less than us”.

I’m sure they wouldn’t trade any of the last few years of rebuild for 2016, mind you, but they’re definitely a cautionary tale of what happens when you have a core meeting expectations, and then suddenly the “then what?” questions start adding up. European soccer teams rotate their cores up quite a bit to avoid that hangover effect — keeps the players hungry when the youth on your squad have something to achieve.

There’s something to be said, I think, for the ethos a teams radiates when they play the underdog role, even in their own heads (glares at Mets), and I think you often lose a lot of that momentum once you reach the plateau, and suddenly the target is directly on you, permeating from the players to management to the fans itself.

[Nola Beery]

On 10/1/2024 at 5:42 PM, duewizard said:

Burnes went 8IP 1ER and lost

He must feel like he never left the Brewers.  (Though our offense was pretty decent this year.)

[Nola Beery]

8 hours ago, owbc said:

I hope it’s the Padres in the NL. 

The first team I ever really followed, as a kid, was the AAA Pacific Coast League Padres, who played at the Westgate Ball Park. Al Schuss and Al Coupee (sp?) were the radio announcers. (No TV back then.)

But for now, it's basically anyone but the Mets (subject to change.)

[TURBO]

Can't root for the Padres as long as Manny PUNK Machado graces their dugout.  Just can't...

[Brock Beauchamp]

3 hours ago, UsainJolt said:

Reminds me of our neighbors to the south, post-their two deep playoff runs. It seemed like everyone came out tight after that and, combined with players getting old and injury-prone, the burden of expectation made the next few seasons a slog for them once the slogan went from “try not to suck” to “how the hell did we lose game 163 to a team spending 2.5x less than us”.

I’m sure they wouldn’t trade any of the last few years of rebuild for 2016, mind you, but they’re definitely a cautionary tale of what happens when you have a core meeting expectations, and then suddenly the “then what?” questions start adding up. European soccer teams rotate their cores up quite a bit to avoid that hangover effect — keeps the players hungry when the youth on your squad have something to achieve.

There’s something to be said, I think, for the ethos a teams radiates when they play the underdog role, even in their own heads (glares at Mets), and I think you often lose a lot of that momentum once you reach the plateau, and suddenly the target is directly on you, permeating from the players to management to the fans itself.

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[adambr2]

Didn't realize that Will Smith has been hanging out in MLB bullpens just collecting World Series rings every year the last few years. Guess we know who we should havd acquired last offseason. 

[Brewcrew82]

Kinda frustrating seeing the Guardians who are no better than us dominating in the ALDS.

Postseason often comes down to luck of the draw. Really wish we could've gotten that bye, and we would've had we been in the AL. 

[Cool Hand Lucroy]

52 minutes ago, Brewcrew82 said:

Kinda frustrating seeing the Guardians who are no better than us dominating in the ALDS.

Postseason often comes down to luck of the draw. Really wish we could've gotten that bye, and we would've had we been in the AL. 

Somehow, the Guardians only went 8-5 against the White Sox. But the Twins, Royals, and Tigers were all pretty flawed teams bolstered by winning like 12 games against the Sox, so yeah. I mean, we got Colorado in 2018, so definitely helped us then, but this year I think the NL is clearly the stronger league on the whole.

Still, I like Vogt. I don't begrudge Cleveland any success.

[wiguy94]

Zach Wheeler is averaging 98mph with his FB through 3 innings which is up almost 3mph over his season average.

[Cool Hand Lucroy]

I have no idea how that call at first (Mets-Phillies Game 1, 3rd inning) stands while Marte is ruled safe in our series. That was a much closer play, and it was overturned. I don't understand MLB replay. Seems like soccer where different review crews have different standards. It just seems weird that it ends up so inconsistent, even in super important games.