Off Season Ideas

[Outlander]

Bo Bichette isn't getting you a banner unless you want a winning the offseason award banner.

[Lloyd330]

12 minutes ago, Outlander said:

Bo Bichette isn't getting you a banner unless you want a winning the offseason award banner.

Just simply compare Bo to Ortiz

[sveumrules]

19 minutes ago, Lloyd330 said:

Just simply compare Bo to Ortiz

Hitting
Bo; 122 wRC+
Jo: 83 wRC+

Fielding
Bo: -19 DRS | -27 FRV
Jo: +8 DRS | +21 FRV

Salary
Bo: $27M
Jo: 800K

No doubt Bichette is a much better player, that’s why he’s trying for $200M.

The Brewers probably aren’t interested in that kind of FA outlay at this point (especially for a player with injury issues that isn’t up to their defensive standards at SS), if they were they could have just re-signed the devil they knew in Adames.
 

[Roderick]

3 hours ago, Lloyd330 said:

Could care less about the regualr season - Lets put up a banner that says " most wins in regular season"

You have to get to the playoffs first.

[yoshii8]

7 hours ago, Lloyd330 said:

Could care less about the regualr season - Lets put up a banner that says " most wins in regular season"

I mean you have to win in the regular season to get a chance in the playoffs. They just weren’t hot at the right time. 

[Lloyd330]

57 minutes ago, yoshii8 said:

I mean you have to win in the regular season to get a chance in the playoffs. They just weren’t hot at the right time. 

They didn't have enough talent when it counted

[Lloyd330]

4 hours ago, Roderick said:

You have to get to the playoffs first.

Thats never been the issue

[brewerfan82]

2 hours ago, Lloyd330 said:

Thats never been the issue

You haven't been following this team very long I guess

[Jopal78]

Shaping up to be another Brewers style offseason: bargain shopping for depth  to raise the talent “floor” and hoping  for young players Turang, Chourio, Durbin, Frelick to continue to develop offensively with a boost from Contreras being healthy again. 

[MattK]

15 hours ago, Lloyd330 said:

Thats never been the issue

3 times in the first 45+ years as a franchise was a big issue. Phenomenally spoiled we are nowadays. 

Would you rather be the Cubs with their 2016 WS win ... and then no playoffs again until 2025? 8 years in a row without making the playoffs? 

I guess personally I feel a 90+ win regular season with a playoff team that loses is significantly less disappointing than a team around .500.

[Lloyd330]

15 hours ago, brewerfan82 said:

You haven't been following this team very long I guess

Since the John Jaha days - I dont care what they were 15 years - They have been what Mark A always wanted them to be the last 10 years or so and thats a enjoyable team.  Screw that, give me a Championship. 

I'd rather suck for a long time, if we made it to the WS once

[Lloyd330]

2 hours ago, MattK said:

3 times in the first 45+ years as a franchise was a big issue. Phenomenally spoiled we are nowadays. 

Would you rather be the Cubs with their 2016 WS win ... and then no playoffs again until 2025? 8 years in a row without making the playoffs? 

I guess personally I feel a 90+ win regular season with a playoff team that loses is significantly less disappointing than a team around .500.

100% - You know what better than no Championships - ONE

You must love participation Trophy's then

[tmwiese55]

Here we go again 🙄.    Took a bit longer to come back than I thought, roughly June until Dec was a good break

[sveumrules]

15 minutes ago, Lloyd330 said:

I'd rather suck for a long time, if we made it to the WS once

That already happened once. They made the World Series in 1982, and then from 1983 until 2004 they were the 2nd worst team in MLB with a 1,635 W - 1.858 L record.

I don't think anyone loves a participation trophy, but it's certainly far more enjoyable (and much closer to a World Series) than decades of irrelevance.

All the money the Yankees spend and they've made the WS one time since their last win in 2009.

All the money the Phillies spend and they've made the WS one time since their B2B trips in 2008/09.

Cohen is the richest owner in the game, has spent obscene amounts on the Mets, and they've missed the playoffs in three of his five seasons owning the team winning 38 fewer games than the Brewers over that stretch. Last time the Mets did make the World Series in 2015 their OD payroll ranked 21st in MLB per Cot's.

The Padres were one of the most All In Go For It teams around when Papa Seidler was still alive, they still missed the playoffs two of the last five years, won 30 fewer games than the Brewers over that stretch, didn't make the World Series.

Going back to 2017 one of the Dodgers/Astros was in the World Series every season except for 2023, and they combined to take up nine of the 18 available spots. It's hard enough to make it to the World Series to begin with, it gets exponentially harder when two teams have a monopoly on half the spots for approaching a decade.

Even on this epic Dodgers run that started in 2013, they didn't reach the World Series until their 5th season and didn't win one until their 8th season in the pandemic altered 2020. They made it back to the NLCS in 2021, but went a combined 1 W - 6 L over the 2022-23 postseasons getting knocked out in the NLDS both years before finally winning a World Series after a full 162 game season in 2024, a dozen years after their first playoff appearance of the run.

It took the mighty Dodgers eleven full seasons to get that first 162 Game WS win, the Brewers are going into year nine of their run for 2026.

[Lloyd330]

I never said go for broke-  Make a big move or two

[Soupy]

Talk to a Cubs fan and what do they talk about? Winning it all. It matters.

 

 

 

 

[sveumrules]

6 minutes ago, Soupy said:

Talk to a Cubs fan and what do they talk about? Winning it all. It matters.

The last time the Cubs finished ahead of the Brewers in a full season was 2017.

Cubs fans talking about winning it all hasn't mattered much for some time now.

[TURBO]

4 hours ago, Lloyd330 said:

Since the John Jaha days - I dont care what they were 15 years - They have been what Mark A always wanted them to be the last 10 years or so and thats a enjoyable team.  Screw that, give me a Championship. 

I'd rather suck for a long time, if we WON the WS once

Fixed. 

[markedman5]

5 hours ago, Lloyd330 said:

Since the John Jaha days - I dont care what they were 15 years - They have been what Mark A always wanted them to be the last 10 years or so and thats a enjoyable team.  Screw that, give me a Championship. 

I'd rather suck for a long time, if we made it to the WS once

Unfortunately you can’t guarantee a championship…….especially when you are the brewers and competing with the Dodgers.

So would you rather have sustained success and a chance every year……or go for it in one season……miss ……and then suck for 5 years? 
 

Fans always say this but it’s never really true…….even if they won it……if they went into an extended rebuild fans would be ******** and moaning because they want them to be good again.

Nobody wants to watch bad baseball…….especially not for multiple years…….attendance suffers……..people lose interest…….very bad for business.

if you think being consistently really good in a market like this isn’t worth celebrating…..go ask Reds, Pirates, Marlins and Rockies fans if they would trade places with us……

[Scooterfletcher]

2 hours ago, markedman5 said:

Unfortunately you can’t guarantee a championship…….especially when you are the brewers and competing with the Dodgers.

So would you rather have sustained success and a chance every year……or go for it in one season……miss ……and then suck for 5 years? 
 

Fans always say this but it’s never really true…….even if they won it……if they went into an extended rebuild fans would be ******** and moaning because they want them to be good again.

Nobody wants to watch bad baseball…….especially not for multiple years…….attendance suffers……..people lose interest…….very bad for business.

if you think being consistently really good in a market like this isn’t worth celebrating…..go ask Reds, Pirates, Marlins and Rockies fans if they would trade places with us……

Well said.   We just need to keep positioning ourselves for a bigger bite of the apple.   Eventually, a crucial Dodgers injury (for instance) will occur and we will be in the World Series.   We aren’t going to have a dynasty in this particular major league sport, so in my opinion we have to have a “reverse baseball dynasty” essentially:  That is … have a consistent strong farm system and be in the playoffs 75% of the time or more in my opinion.

[trwi7]

2 hours ago, Scooterfletcher said:

Well said.   We just need to keep positioning ourselves for a bigger bite of the apple.   Eventually, a crucial Dodgers injury (for instance) will occur and we will be in the World Series.   

It's not like the Dodgers are our only competition.  We barely got by the Cubs.  We would've been underdogs to the Phillies.  There has to be a happy medium between going all-in and doing nothing.  

[Scooterfletcher]

58 minutes ago, trwi7 said:

It's not like the Dodgers are our only competition.  We barely got by the Cubs.  We would've been underdogs to the Phillies.  There has to be a happy medium between going all-in and doing nothing.  

[BrewerFan]

On 12/10/2025 at 8:52 AM, Lloyd330 said:

Banking on prospects/young guys is the reason we barely beat the Cubs and got smoke by the Dodgers. 

Yeah... Misiorowski, Chourio, those guys... REALLY blew it, didn't they?

 

[BrewerFan]

1 hour ago, trwi7 said:

It's not like the Dodgers are our only competition.  We barely got by the Cubs.  We would've been underdogs to the Phillies.  There has to be a happy medium between going all-in and doing nothing.  

Doing nothing at this point would be perfectly fine with me and close enough to going all in just by bringing Woodruff back and then having a full season of Mis, Henderson, Gasser, another year of Chourio. Woodruff hopefully for a full year. This is as good as it's going to be. We're not going to add another big name. 

It's these trade rumors about Megill or Peralta that are insane to me. You've got a farm system I've seen as high as #1 and doesn't get below #5-#7 in most other rankings. 

On 12/11/2025 at 8:19 AM, Outlander said:

Bo Bichette isn't getting you a banner unless you want a winning the offseason award banner.

Well... to be fair, you add an elite hitter. Ideally, you move him to 2B, Turang to SS. That would change the lineup a whole lot. Not much different than adding Marte. Same career OPS+.

It would certainly get you closer to a banner... obviously nobody guarantees you of one, but if you have a team that's close... outside of Kyle Tucker, not sure anyone else on the market does more to put you over the edge. He just... can't play SS. 

But... we're just not getting one of the top FA's on the market. He's going to get a Yelich like deal(Tucker will get an even dumber deal), and it's just not realistic. Running it back with Woodruff for a whole year and... just hoping you stay healthy and can watch Chourio and some guys take that next step gives you closer and things go your way in the playoffs. 

 

[BrewerFan]

On 12/11/2025 at 3:53 PM, Lloyd330 said:

Thats never been the issue

REALLY? That's NEVER been the issue?

They had ONE full season playoff appearance in their franchise history until Attanasio and then... they went "all in" and had two where hey made the big move and didn't win.

But... that's cute. Making the playoffs has "never been the issue." C'mon...