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Not super motivated to trade Peralta to the Dodgers but if they insist....

Dodgers:

Peralta (BTV: 26)

Brewers:

River Ryan (BTV: 14.7)

Alex Freeland (BTV: 5.2)

Mike Sirota (BTV: 21.4)

Would the Dodgers do it? Probably not. Do I really want to trade them Freddy? No.

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I get why Tong is a no go but Sproat and Williams seems pretty reasonable.

I haven't done a major deep dive into Sproat but I'm not seeing the reason for hype on the surface 

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38 minutes ago, Matt said:

 

If that’s accurate, then I’m fine with not trading Freddy to the Mets. I’d rather keep Freddy than trade him for peanuts.

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1 hour ago, wallus said:

Not super motivated to trade Peralta to the Dodgers but if they insist....

Dodgers:

Peralta (BTV: 26)

Brewers:

River Ryan (BTV: 14.7)

Alex Freeland (BTV: 5.2)

Mike Sirota (BTV: 21.4)

Would the Dodgers do it? Probably not. Do I really want to trade them Freddy? No.

How is Freeland only a 5.7 value while Sirota is a 21.4? That makes no sense to me. 
 

And, no…..can’t imagine there’s any chance LA is giving up that much for Freddy. I think we’d be fortunate to get Ryan and then either Freeland OR Sirota. Very little chance we’re getting all three. 

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I think that'd be a pretty great package for Freddy, tbh. Jett can play anywhere in the middle of the field and Sproat's at least a #3 or #4 with the upside to be a top of the rotation starter despite his age. I think the Brewers could tweak a couple things and turn him into something resembling Burnes. 

12 seasons of those two for one season of Freddy would probably end up being a massive haul for the Brewers. 

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1 hour ago, wallus said:

I get why Tong is a no go but Sproat and Williams seems pretty reasonable.

I haven't done a major deep dive into Sproat but I'm not seeing the reason for hype on the surface 

I wouldn't be amazed by a Sproat and Williams trade but I think it's fair. I'd consider it to be better value than the Burnes return.

Sproat has good stuff and a nice mix. Command hasn't been very good though. If you can get the command to improve (Brewers generally do a pretty good job with this) then I think he has a solid shot of being a mid rotation starter.

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17 hours ago, edfunderburk said:

Dodgers - Sheehan & DePaula excites me

Mets - Tong & Baty thrills me

I assume "thrills" is better by a smidge over "excites"?....

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29 minutes ago, Madhawk23 said:

How is Freeland only a 5.7 value while Sirota is a 21.4? That makes no sense to me. 
 

And, no…..can’t imagine there’s any chance LA is giving up that much for Freddy. I think we’d be fortunate to get Ryan and then either Freeland OR Sirota. Very little chance we’re getting all three. 

Sirota is the higher regarded prospect. Fangraphs has him at 45+. BA at 45 adjusted at 45th in the Top 100. Freeland is 45 on Fangraphs and 40 adjusted by Baseball America. Pipeline is the only place that has Freeland ranked higher but they haven't done their 2026 updates yet.

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Sproat spent considerable time at AAA (relative to how long most prospects pitch there) and didn’t dominate. 
 

If the return for Peralta is a middling major league ready prospect (Sproat) and a diminutive prospect/Caleb Durbin clone, I would just hang on to Peralta and take the comp pick when he rejects a QO next winter. 

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1 hour ago, Dadbauer said:

I highly doubt a source could be THAT specific.

 

this guy reminds me of the NBA "insider" on x that just posts fake rumors. Can't think of his name since I blocked him years ago. If Passan has it I'll run with it, Michael Marino no

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It would be a major disappointment if we don't get a bat that contributes immediately in 2026.  Not some light hitting prospect who can play all over the infield, but really not contribute to our biggest needs. 

We have a wealth of infielders coming soon, no need to add to that log-jam.

That Mets package is about as unexciting as it gets.

Like someone said above, if that's our best offer, keep Freddy and take the pick.  Don't want to give him away, and having him at the top of our rotation is still a good thing!

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41 minutes ago, Jopal78 said:

If the return for Peralta is a middling major league ready prospect (Sproat) and a diminutive prospect/Caleb Durbin clone, I would just hang on to Peralta and take the comp pick when he rejects a QO next winter. 

Well, yes, Williams is a short infielder. On the other hand, he was drafted much higher and has been rated much higher as a prospect than Durbin ever was, which may reflect the fact that he’s a shortstop who can also play cf and that (according to the first couple of scouting reports I’ve found) he has more power.  That doesn’t sound to me like a clone.

These are two top draft picks who have become top prospects in a very strong system. They do things the Brewers can use, and they come with full periods of team control. By all means, get more if you can, but I would take this deal for Freddy in a heartbeat.

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Not surprised the Brewers asked for Williams in a trade if they even did.  They were heavily connected to him when he was drafted.

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For the guys talking about Williams being a Durbin clone... if you can get a guy that can play SS, 2nd, and CF and put up his stats, that is a good piece to pickup.

As someone that has been pushing for someone that can be versatile in a Chris Taylor kind of way, Williams would be excellent. This team needs to limit ABs for the likes of Capra, Berroa, Dunn in future seasons. They also need to give their regulars more rest so they don't run of out steam in the playoffs.

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2 minutes ago, wallus said:

For the guys talking about Williams being a Durbin clone... if you can get a guy that can play SS, 2nd, and CF and put up his stats, that is a good piece to pickup.

As someone that has been pushing for someone that can be versatile in a Chris Taylor kind of way, Williams would be excellent. This team needs to limit ABs for the likes of Capra, Berroa, Dunn in future seasons. They also need to give their regulars more rest so they don't run of out steam in the playoffs.

What stats did he exactly put up, He was over matched at AAA and didn't really light the world on fire at AA

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5 minutes ago, Lloyd330 said:

What stats did he exactly put up, He was over matched at AAA and didn't really light the world on fire at AA

He had a 156 wRC+ in AA as a 21 year old. 

Cooper Pratt's wRC+ in AA was 106.

For the "traditional" people, he hit .261/.363/.465 with 17 homers for an OPS of .828.

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Sproat and Williams are a huge overpay for 1 year of Peralta.  FV 50 pitcher like Sproat has a $21 m value, a FV 50 like Williams has a $28 m value. Peralta has about $26m of value and may have a pick too but that is unknown given he might take the offer due to the lockout killing the free agency period next season. The pick has about a $6m value if it were to occur.

This is the kind of trade in which Megill would be involved in addition to Peralta. And it still would favor the Brewers.

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18 minutes ago, Lloyd330 said:

What stats did he exactly put up, He was over matched at AAA and didn't really light the world on fire at AA

He had a 156 wRC+ at AA last year as a 21 year old? He slashed .281/.390/.477 in a league where the average slash line was .232/.318/.362

Whoops @wallus beat me to it.

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Funny thing about Sirota with LAD is they got him (plus the 41st pick in last year's draft) from CIN for one year of Gavin Lux where he hit for a 102 wRC+ and 0.3 WAR before the Reds recently flipped him for one year of reliever Brock Burke.

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1 hour ago, Jopal78 said:

Sproat spent considerable time at AAA (relative to how long most prospects pitch there) and didn’t dominate. 
 

If the return for Peralta is a middling major league ready prospect (Sproat) and a diminutive prospect/Caleb Durbin clone, I would just hang on to Peralta and take the comp pick when he rejects a QO next winter. 

He spent 7 starts in 2024 and 24 in 2025. So one full season.  So 10 more than Henderson and substantially less than Gasser.

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