Trade deadline day thread

[BruisedCrew]

6 hours ago, Brewcrew82 said:

What if I told you the Brewers added this hitter before the deadline.....

 

 

 

I would say you’re dodging the question by using a small sample produced by a player whose MLB and minor league performance should tell you that what he’s done since being called up from the minors isn’t likely to continue. 

[Yaz19]

Haase cleared waivers and accepted assignment to Nashville.  Glad he is still around.   I know he hasn't been as productive at the plate this year.  Still pulling for the guy.

[liveforoctober]

28 minutes ago, Yaz19 said:

Haase cleared waivers and accepted assignment to Nashville.  Glad he is still around.   I know he hasn't been as productive at the plate this year.  Still pulling for the guy.

I know we all felt bad that he lost his job and rightfully so... But the only question whether he stayed with us was whether he was going to be too hurt at the release to stay. 

The best way for Haase to help the Brewers was to be in Nashville working with Myers, Henderson, Patrick and the new arms soon coming up from AA. This is great.

[kestrel79]

How about we just trust this Brewers Front Office knows what they are doing? How many similar comments did we all see on these boards for the Vaughn trade, the Priester Trade, any signing this off season the past couple years and you know what? These deals have worked out for the most part and proven all of us wrong.

There's a reason they were FO of the year last year, and most likely this year as well. Manager of the year too. How about we all just shut up and see what these guys can do and trust the system? I think they've earned that from us.

Didn't we add Donaldson really late a couple years ago to our roster down the stretch? If we add any veteran depth going forward, I bet it will be a really late add like that again and work out maybe?

I was disappointed like the rest of us, but looking back at all our moves the past couple years most of them worked out pretty damn good so I'm just gonna trust these guys know what they are doing.

[homer]

2 hours ago, BruisedCrew said:

I would say you’re dodging the question by using a small sample produced by a player whose MLB and minor league performance should tell you that what he’s done since being called up from the minors isn’t likely to continue. 

You are making some fair points but I just don't see a whole lot out there that would have improved the team.

Just looking at the bats that were traded Suarez definitely would have helped. Correa wanted to play 3rd and had a no trade clause. O'Hearn has been a sub 700 OPS player since the beginning of June. McMahon has a sub 600 OPS away from Coors Field this year, Josh Naylor would probably have helped but I don't know if he fit positionally. Then you're into Bader, Hayes, Mullins territory and none of them would have helped. The one guy who seemed like a fit was Willie Castro. He would have been a slight upgrade as a backup utility guy but not much of one. Same with Ramon Urias. Neither of those guys is probably gonna move the needle much if anything.

 

[dlk9s]

So pissed they didn't buy low on Mookie Betts.

[wibadgers23]

10 minutes ago, kestrel79 said:

Didn't we add Donaldson really late a couple years ago to our roster down the stretch? If we add any veteran depth going forward, I bet it will be a really late add like that again and work out maybe?

You can't make August trades anymore like you could in the past.  

[dlk9s]

Skimmed some ESPN articles.

The "winners and losers" article called the Brewers "losers," but couched it by saying they still have the best record in MLB and really only had good things to say. There was no "what are they doing" narrative.

In a Q&A with baseball writers on reactions to the trade deadline, one called the Brewers a "finely tuned machine" and neither considered any other team to have jumped them (a bunch of NL teams will be racing each other to the World Series).

This morning's post-trade deadline power rankings still have the Brewers #1.

Conclusion: at least one national media outlet doesn't think the sky is falling for the Crew.

Now hopefully losing Chourio for a while doesn't hurt.

[Playing Catch]

13 minutes ago, homer said:

You are making some fair points but I just don't see a whole lot out there that would have improved the team.

I just posted in the Transactions forum, but I concur. Suarez is an obvious upgrade to the Brewers at the dish, but the lineup/defensive ramifications to his playing every day end up dulling his shine, and other than Ke'Bryan Hayes, I'm not sure there were any infielders that could sniff Ortiz's defense, other than Correa, which was a unique case.

There are moves that I would have made, but usually when the choices are between MY being wrong, and Matt Arnold being wrong, I'm guessing I'm wrong 9 out of 10 times.

And as dlk9s just posted, NATIONAL outlets from outside Brewerland, felt the Brewers were the only contender that didn't have any obvious holes.

 

[sveumrules]

Seems like an awful lot of consternation over not trading for Willi Castro or Ramon Urias (neither of whom can really play SS anyway).

Or was a legit SS moved and I missed it?

[homer]

1 minute ago, sveumrules said:

Seems like an awful lot of consternation over not trading for Willi Castro or Ramon Urias (neither of whom can really play SS anyway).

Or was a legit SS moved and I missed it?

Correa? But he has been asking to move to third for two years and ended up approving the trade to Houston because they said he was going to play 3rd.

[Frisbee Slider]

1 minute ago, homer said:

Correa?

Correa has 0.1 WAR this season

He has exclusively played SS this year, though 🙂

 

[Thurston Fluff]

7 hours ago, greenlawler said:

Except this is the Brewers best chance at a World Series since 82......but yeah let's just settle for the infield we have now. 

Why does this team have so much better a chance at a World Series than last season? Or any of the last seven times they've been good enough to get in the playoffs? Nor buying into the magical year mentality is the Brewers superpower.

Overall I'm a bit confused with some of the complaints. I get being disappointed by nor upgrading shortstop. Yet, when adding defense into the mix, I don't know how much of an improvement could have been made. We are a top ten offense with a defense only shortstop. Was there any combination of infielder help available to make us a top five without hurting our top five defense? What I don't get is one of the complaints I've seen is we didn't improve on the margins. Yet we got a marginal improvement at catcher and reliever. Just because we didn't improve in an area fans wanted doesn't mean we didn't improve. I think it boils down to some people equating not addressing every need to doing nothing. 

[Mr Southpaw]

I am very glad our organizational chart looks this healthy and robust. We have at least 7 MLB ready starting pitchers with at least 3-6 years of team control with each level stocked with quality prospects. Our A Level team at Carolina looks soooooo good, it could have 5 MLB position players in 3-4 years.  Just happy to be a Brewers fan!

Feel free to download.

 

 

Brewers Prospects 2025.xlsx

[Ignitor 4ever]

Everybody always wants the new shiny toy while ignoring what they already have. I could not care less what ESPN or other writers think. They are of the same ilk as talking heads and writers that declare winners and losers of NFL drafts within 24 hours of the draft ending and (conveniently) never revisit their "hot takes" four years later when you can really tell who the "winners" and "losers" were. Why? Because most of the time their takes were proven to be stupid as players they thought were great flame out.

I trust Arnold. Do not sell off the prospects we will need in a year or two just to rent a guy like Suarez and then hope he does not regress to the mean down the stretch. The Brewers have the team right now to win in the postseason, especially if a guy like Hoskins can also catch fire down the stretch. 

[narwhalattack]

42 minutes ago, homer said:

You are making some fair points but I just don't see a whole lot out there that would have improved the team.

Just looking at the bats that were traded Suarez definitely would have helped. Correa wanted to play 3rd and had a no trade clause. O'Hearn has been a sub 700 OPS player since the beginning of June. McMahon has a sub 600 OPS away from Coors Field this year, Josh Naylor would probably have helped but I don't know if he fit positionally. Then you're into Bader, Hayes, Mullins territory and none of them would have helped. The one guy who seemed like a fit was Willie Castro. He would have been a slight upgrade as a backup utility guy but not much of one. Same with Ramon Urias. Neither of those guys is probably gonna move the needle much if anything.

 

That’s honestly what I’m thinking. When the best option available is a 34 year old one trick pony, that doesn’t exactly scream of an abundance of options. Not to mention that being hyperaggressive isn’t going to guarantee even a WS appearance either- just ask the Padres how many WS appearances they’ve had since 1998. 
 

If we were to burn draft capital and prospects for marginal upgrades just for the sake of doing something and don’t even make the WS, then what? These folks gonna be happy with a “You Tried” sticker?

[sveumrules]

The Brewers most recent “best chance to win a World Series” was before Game 7 of the 2018 NLCS.

27 teams had already been eliminated, all they had to do was beat the Dodgers then win four of seven versus Boston. FanGraphs gave that sequence of events a 9.0% chance of happening.

No matter what moves are or aren’t made, early in the season or at the deadline, the Brewers are always going to be a World Series long shot.

[StearnsFTW]

16 hours ago, folly412 said:

Saw an article a couple weeks ago that looked at moves that made the most sense each team should make.  Ours was to acquire Shelby Miller.  Interesting.  Montgomery must be some kind of salary move.  

Yes.  That actually is the case 

[StearnsFTW]

BulldogBoy with an absolute first ballot hall of fame performance itt. 

 

Bravo.

[dlk9s]

I know Ortiz has been poor offensively aside from a couple-week hot stretch and people want to fill that hole in the lineup, but it seems to me that the angst among people who are upset with the trade deadline is that they still hold on to the perception of some of the young guys that they did before the season started.

I think lots of people still don't think guys like Collins and Durbin are actually good. After all, before the season, they were both just short rookies who didn't look like they'd be much of anything this year. Frelick and Turang, while certainly competent, were still just fast, slick-fielding, grit merchants. 

I truly believe fans haven't been able to shake their perceptions of those guys and are waiting for all of them to turn into pumpkins. They see the Brewers with the best record in baseball two-thirds of the way through the season and think it can't actually be true.

[wiguy94]

1 hour ago, sveumrules said:

Seems like an awful lot of consternation over not trading for Willi Castro or Ramon Urias (neither of whom can really play SS anyway).

Or was a legit SS moved and I missed it?

Caballero was moved for not much. He’s not good but would stand to be an upgrade from what Joey Ortiz has been or at minimum would be an upgrade over Monasterio.

[wiguy94]

1 hour ago, sveumrules said:

The Brewers most recent “best chance to win a World Series” was before Game 7 of the 2018 NLCS.

27 teams had already been eliminated, all they had to do was beat the Dodgers then win four of seven versus Boston. FanGraphs gave that sequence of events a 9.0% chance of happening.

No matter what moves are or aren’t made, early in the season or at the deadline, the Brewers are always going to be a World Series long shot.

Brewers actually have their best shot since the playoff format was changed to significantly improve their WS odds by virtue of being a Top 2 seed and getting a bye to the NLDS. That alone improves your odds. 

Let’s hope their lack of action at the deadline doesn’t come back to bite them and that they can hang onto the top spot. 

[Brian]

2 hours ago, dlk9s said:

So pissed they didn't buy low on Mookie Betts.

July 31, 2025 indicate that Mookie Betts is still struggling with his illness and experiencing symptoms such as being unable to keep down solid food without vomiting. 

[Playing Catch]

I think the Reds move for Ke'Bryan Hayes was interesting. He is signed through 2029 but has hit like Joey Ortiz for nearly two full seasons... at THIRD BASE.

Methinks they are imagining all of the Brewers' infield hits turning into groundball outs when they play each other for the next 4 seasons.

[SRB]

We're clearly a trade deadline winner simply because the Cubs did not go all in. The trade deadline matters most for ensuring you win your division. Once we get to the playoffs anything can happen.