2022 Trade Market

[Hopper]

Believe it or not Yelich is outplaying Bellinger by a wide margin this year.  Bellinger has been complete garbage for two seasons now, comparable to Yelich, but far worse. At least Yelich has settled into his new "lead off and can only hit singles now" role.  I'm not sure what Bellinger's contract looks like, but if they signed him long term like we did with Yelich, I'd rather keep Yelich.  If it was only one year that we had to pay Bellinger, then we could let him walk, I'd take that swap even up just to be rid of the Yelich contract.

[LouisEly]

2 hours ago, Hopper said:

Believe it or not Yelich is outplaying Bellinger by a wide margin this year.  Bellinger has been complete garbage for two seasons now, comparable to Yelich, but far worse. At least Yelich has settled into his new "lead off and can only hit singles now" role.  I'm not sure what Bellinger's contract looks like, but if they signed him long term like we did with Yelich, I'd rather keep Yelich.  If it was only one year that we had to pay Bellinger, then we could let him walk, I'd take that swap even up just to be rid of the Yelich contract.

A simple lookup at B-R.com will show you that 2023 is his final year of arbitration and eligible for free agency in 2024.

[nate82]

The Red Sox have fallen so far behind now that they could be sellers.  They are currently sitting 3 games back from the final wild card spot and they are playing like garbage.  They are currently 5-13 in the month of July and haven't won a series against an AL East team.  The Red Sox have 0 games against teams below .500 until the deadline.  They have 2 more against Toronto 4 against Cleveland and then 3 against Milwaukee to finish July.  

The Red Sox could be out of the wild card running before the deadline and if they are I wouldn't be surprised if they sell.  With Bogaerts opting out after this season and with Martinez and others becoming free agents I could see the Red Sox selling off some of its pieces probably just Martinez and Eovaldi and maybe Bogaerts if they are blown away by an offer.  The Red Sox basically have everyone that is useful on the IL right now.  Some may come back in August but by then it would be far too late to make a run.  

[nate82]

Another loss for the Red Sox today.  If they don’t win their next series against Cleveland it is over for them.  There are just far to many teams they will have to overcome.  I think the Red Sox will be in sell mode by the time they are playing the Brewers next week.

[Brewcrew82]

4 hours ago, nate82 said:

The Red Sox have fallen so far behind now that they could be sellers.  They are currently sitting 3 games back from the final wild card spot and they are playing like garbage.  They are currently 5-13 in the month of July and haven't won a series against an AL East team.  The Red Sox have 0 games against teams below .500 until the deadline.  They have 2 more against Toronto 4 against Cleveland and then 3 against Milwaukee to finish July.  

The Red Sox could be out of the wild card running before the deadline and if they are I wouldn't be surprised if they sell.  With Bogaerts opting out after this season and with Martinez and others becoming free agents I could see the Red Sox selling off some of its pieces probably just Martinez and Eovaldi and maybe Bogaerts if they are blown away by an offer.  The Red Sox basically have everyone that is useful on the IL right now.  Some may come back in August but by then it would be far too late to make a run.  

Bogaerts would be a great get for the Brewers if we can find a way to do it. Prospect cost won't be insurmountable considering his impending free agent status. Maybe Mitchell and Small/Kelly? I would probably pull the trigger. 

[nate82]

If the Brewers trade Chourio would you rather it be for Soto or Ohtani?  

[Brewcrew82]

1 minute ago, nate82 said:

If the Brewers trade Chourio would you rather it be for Soto or Ohtani?  

Good question. Assuming we are unable resign either (which isn't much of an assumption), it would have to be Soto as he has more team control remaining. Ohtani makes it a difficult choice though with his ability to be an elite hitter AND pitcher. 

[brewers888]

17 minutes ago, nate82 said:

If the Brewers trade Chourio would you rather it be for Soto or Ohtani?  

The Brewers cannot under any circumstances trade Chourio. 

[rickh150]

10 minutes ago, brewers888 said:

The Brewers cannot under any circumstances trade Chourio. 

Any? Come now.

[brewmann04]

he could be a star but think Soto would be worth moving him for.

[crossface2311]

https://twitter.com/mlb_leaks/status/1551060438057734144?s=20&t=c_ALsC9thMdc_urku6YftA

[wibadgers23]

Let’s just say the rumors on Twitter about Benintendi and Bell are true - what prospects are we thinking we’d have to give up to acquire both?

[brewers888]

11 hours ago, rickh150 said:

Any? Come now.

Certainly not for any player with less than 4 years of control remaining and that player would have to be the type of star that wouldn't be moved anyway.

[brewers888]

Benintendi would be a fine rental but I wouldn't pay a high price for him. Turang is about as high a price as they should be willing to pay.

[Eye Black]

What about the Marlins as a trade partner? They’ve fallen to 6 games under .500 and are solidly in 4th place in a touch division. The Brewers have made a couple of trades with the Marlins since Kim Ng took over their baseball operations. 

Here are some potentially reasonable targets:

Utility player options that can cover shortstop include left handed hitting Joey Wendle and to a lesser extent the right handed hitting Jon Berti. The Brewers clearly like players with positional flexibility (see Jace Peterson). Wendle as a rental would likely cost less than Berti who has a few years of team control remaining. 

1B/DH types obviously include former Brewers Garrett Cooper who can play both first base and possibly an outfield corner in addition to fan favorite Jesus Aguilar. Cooper has one year remaining of team control after this one. 

On the pitching side there are a some intriguing bullpen options, but possibly no better fit than LHRP Steven Okert who has been dominant the past two years and was previously drafted [but not signed] by the Brewers on two different occasions. 

[Hopper]

1 hour ago, brewers888 said:

Benintendi would be a fine rental but I wouldn't pay a high price for him. Turang is about as high a price as they should be willing to pay.

Imo, Turang is too much.  Benintendi alone isn't enough to fix our offensive issues.  I think it's frightening as hell as to what we are going to have to give up to get a couple of bats at the deadline.  I just feel impending disaster on the horizon if we give up any of our big prospects. (Small, Wiemer, Frelick, Mitchell, or God help us Chourio) 

 

[wntrtxn21]

15 hours ago, Brewcrew82 said:

Bogaerts would be a great get for the Brewers if we can find a way to do it. Prospect cost won't be insurmountable considering his impending free agent status. Maybe Mitchell and Small/Kelly? I would probably pull the trigger. 

Unless the Red Sox dumped in a boat load of cash the Brewers aren't even thinking about Bogaerts. He's scheduled to make $20M the next four years. Way, way out of Stearns' price range.  Martinez,  or relief pitchers Schreiber, or Whitlock would be a possibilities if the price was right. 

[pitchleague]

1 hour ago, Hopper said:

Imo, Turang is too much.  Benintendi alone isn't enough to fix our offensive issues.  I think it's frightening as hell as to what we are going to have to give up to get a couple of bats at the deadline.  I just feel impending disaster on the horizon if we give up any of our big prospects. (Small, Wiemer, Frelick, Mitchell, or God help us Chourio) 

 

While I agree with this comment for the most part, I also can totally see the team discussions centered around a "let's go for it and go get a World Series while we still have Burnes, Woodruff, and Hader" type of attitude.

While I would be (beyond) thrilled if a series of trades would boost the Brewers into the World Series, it would also be disappointing to see the loss of a bunch of high prospects.   That is an entirely valid concern.

However, that's all they are . . . prospects.  There is no guarantee that they'll amount to anything.  We could just as easily hold onto them all, we don't make a World Series during the Burnes, Woodruff, and Hader era, and the prospects tank when they reach the big leagues.

I was talking about this with my wife during the 13-inning game the other night, and I am starting to feel that the Brewers should at least put out a very competitive offer for Soto.  The Nationals might not pick the Yankees or Dodgers or Mets or [insert team here] and go with the Brewers.  Who knows??

[Brewcrew82]

49 minutes ago, wntrtxn21 said:

Unless the Red Sox dumped in a boat load of cash the Brewers aren't even thinking about Bogaerts. He's scheduled to make $20M the next four years. Way, way out of Stearns' price range.  Martinez,  or relief pitchers Schreiber, or Whitlock would be a possibilities if the price was right. 

Bogaerts will be a free agent after the season when he opts out of his contract…

[MadThinker88]

Don't be surprised if Cleveland is both a buyer and a seller at the deadline...

SS Amed Rosario is a likely trade chip (with so many Middle INF guys in the CLE system & already on the 40 man roster). I'm hearing rumblings that RHP Zach Plesac is also a name in multiple trade discussions..

The CLE farm has a number of guys (both position and pitchers) ready/ needing the chance to play in the majors for CLE or another club.. 

Unsure if there is a match with MKE but there is always a chance of 3 team deals...

 

[Robocaller]

Can we please acquire a relief pitcher immediately? Someone about Boxberger's quality (or better)? The need has been obvious for some time, and I haven't heard about the imminent return of any of our relievers who have basically been injured the whole year.  And you can usually acquire one for a lottery ticket currently in A-ball.

 

[Robocaller]

17 hours ago, pitchleague said:

While I agree with this comment for the most part, I also can totally see the team discussions centered around a "let's go for it and go get a World Series while we still have Burnes, Woodruff, and Hader" type of attitude.
 

If they think Benintendi is a significant "all-in" move, they should be fired.

[pitchleague]

4 hours ago, Robocaller said:

If they think Benintendi is a significant "all-in" move, they should be fired.

Of course, I was referring more towards going after Soto.  But I was not clear about that, and I am sorry for that.

[Jopal78]

6 hours ago, Robocaller said:

If they think Benintendi is a significant "all-in" move, they should be fired.

The problem is with expanded playoffs, there are fewer teams "out of it" and some of the teams that are buried this year, are not necessarily looking to tear down as much as tweak the roster to compete next year: Detroit, Texas, LAA et al. Therefore, players like Benintendi are the best amongst those who certainly will be traded in the next week.

I'm not so sure how well of a match the Brewers are with Benintendi, he doesn't hit for much power, and his offensive numbers appear mostly to be driven by a high BaBiP of .365.  

The real question is would the offensive upgrade with Benintendi likely exceed the defensive downgrade of moving McCutchen or Renfroe to CF.

[nate82]

I think the Brewers are going to benefit from the collapse of the Red Sox who look like they are out of the playoff picture.  The Red Sox may not sell off but I don't see them buying either.  The Red Sox may just go with what they have and see if they can turn it around in August but that August schedule for the Red Sox is brutal.  With Sale having surgery and being out for the rest of the year it is probably best for the Red Sox to deal their pending FA like Martinez and Eovaldi.  

The Red Sox are a team that would be looking at the same players the Brewers would be looking at but now I don't see the Red Sox being buyers.