Brewer Fanatic Prospect Voting Results - July 2023

[CheeseheadInQC]

1. Jeferson Quero
   I'll be that guy. This isn't a knock on Chourio as much as I'm just that high on Quero. Everything about his profile screams longtime big leaguer, and it is very promising that he took his one knock at the plate, drawing walks, and made a ton of progress in-season.
2. Jackson Chourio
   I'm not down on Chourio. He is still absurdly young for his level and has amazing tools. How good he is at making the adjustments that this year has shown he needs will determine just how close to his sky high ceiling he gets.
3. Jacob Misiorowski
   Having seen one of his lesser outings probably didn't help him in the three-way race for the top spot here. If he can manage to consistently command that arsenal ... wow.
4. Sal Frelick
   A bit of a lost year so far, hopefully he can turn it around in the second half
5. Tyler Black
   The nervousness over where he plays keeps me from ranking him any higher.
6. Robert Gasser
   Has righted the ship, and looking like a big league starter while in AAA will go a long way in my rankings.
7. Luis Lara
   Upside is a question, but he is still 18 and has the third lowest swinging strike rate in the Carolina league, trailing two guys each four or more years his senior.
8. Carlos F Rodriguez
   We'll see if the command evens out once the sticky ball experiment is done. If it does, he might leap Gasser to the No. 6 spot.
9. Luke Adams
   While the recent slump has dropped it a bit, has a really low swinging strike rate for a 19-year-old with power in A ball. More line drives would be nice, but he has exceeded expectations so far.
10. Josh Knoth
    As I said in the draft thread, this is the pick I am most excited about.
11. Yophery Rodriguez
    I have a feeling this is either five spots too high or five spots too low. I'm beginning to think it is the latter.
12. Brock Wilken
    If he hits enough to get to the power, I don't care if he has to move to first
13. Hendry Mendez
    When he is at his best he is spraying line drives all of the field. He needs to be more consistent about it, but he is still really advanced for his age.
14. Cooper Pratt
    A surprising and very promising pick
15. Eric Brown Jr
    Has been solid considering the injuries have kept him from really getting into a groove.
16. Abner Uribe
    If he can command that stuff, the Brewers have another dominant reliever
17. Patricio Aquino
    This is the dropoff point, but when in doubt I go with a young pitcher putting up good numbers
18. Quinton Low
    Raw, but the stuff sounds electric. Hopefully he can shake off some of the recent control problems.
19. Alexander Cornielle
    His peripherals point to him being as good as last year even if the ERA doesn't. Hopefully a second half bounce-back is coming.
20. Daniel Guilarte
    When healthy, it seemed like some of the ground balls were starting to turn into line drives, a very good development.

The only clear-cut decisions for me were Frelick 4, Black 5, and, mostly, Carlos Rodriguez 8 (There's still a part of me that wonders if I made a mistake not bumping Yophery Rodriguez up 5 more spots to 6). 1-3 were very close, as were Gasser and Lara. Then you had the fact that there were 16 guys I would have been fine placing in my top 10. Very little separated Adams at 9 from Uribe at 16  (sorry Abner, in prospect rankings a tie definitely does not go to the relief pitcher).

Then It was a tough call on the last four spots among nine players. The other five: Henderson, Di Turi, Bitonti, Moore and Zamora. I had Henderson in and Guilarte out until swapping at the last minute. While Guilarte obviously hasn't been a picture of health either, being injury-prone just scares me more in a pitcher. If it weren't for that, he would have been 17th.

[Brewcrew82]

1. Jackson Chourio
2. Jacob Misiorowski
3. Jeferson Quero
4. Sal Frelick
5. Tyler Black
6. Luis Lara
7. Robert Gasser
8. Brock Wilken
9. Abner Uribe
10. Carlos F Rodriguez
11. Eric Brown Jr
12. Yophery Rodriguez
13. Cooper Pratt
14. Josh Knoth
15. Daniel Guilarte
16. Eric Bitonti
17. Robert Moore
18. Mike Boeve
19. Hendry Mendez
20. Logan Henderson

This farm system is in such great shape. Best it's been since we were briefly ranked #1 in 2016. And we haven't had to go through a full teardown like we did then.

[Harold Hutchison]

1. Tyler Black
   Broke out as 3B of the future - as soon as 2024?
2. Jackson Chourio
   Plenty of time to develop the skills to reach his very high ceiling.
3. Yophery Rodriguez
   Probably a Yelich-like talent.
4. Jeferson Quero
   Best catching prospect.
5. Justin Jarvis
   2024 rotation contributor
6. Juan Baez
   Future shortstop
7. Sal Frelick
   Dealing with a lost season.
8. Abner Uribe
   Closer of the future
9. Cam Devanney
   Probably a superb under-the-radar option at SS
10. Robert Moore
    Could be a dynamic 2B/SS.
11. Luke Adams
12. Freddy Zamora
13. Luis Lara
    Could be a superb sparkplug
14. Filippo Di Turi
15. Jacob Misiorowski
16. Matthew Wood
17. Daniel Guilarte
18. Tyler Woessner
19. Ethan Small
20. Eric Brown Jr

[ErnieRilesBrianGiles]

1. Jackson Chourio
2. Jeferson Quero
3. Sal Frelick
4. Jacob Misiorowski
5. Tyler Black
6. Robert Gasser
7. Carlos F Rodriguez
8. Eric Brown Jr
9. Abner Uribe
10. Luis Lara
11. Brock Wilken
12. Josh Knoth
13. Luke Adams
14. Daniel Guilarte
15. Mike Boeve
16. Cooper Pratt
17. Eric Bitonti
18. Patricio Aquino
19. Robert Moore
20. Cam Devanney

[wichmae]

1. Jackson Chourio
2. Sal Frelick
3. Jacob Misiorowski
4. Jeferson Quero
5. Tyler Black
6. Brock Wilken
7. Cooper Pratt
8. Carlos F Rodriguez
9. Mike Boeve
10. Josh Knoth
11. Robert Gasser
12. Eric Bitonti
13. Luis Lara
14. Eric Brown Jr
15. Daniel Guilarte
16. Robert Moore
17. Felix Valerio
18. Abner Uribe
19. Ethan Small
20. Matthew Wood

[wiguy94]

1. Jackson Chourio
2. Jeferson Quero
3. Jacob Misiorowski
4. Sal Frelick
5. Tyler Black
6. Luis Lara
7. Robert Gasser
8. Carlos F Rodriguez
9. Brock Wilken
10. Cooper Pratt
11. Josh Knoth
12. Eric Brown Jr
13. Abner Uribe
14. Luke Adams
15. Justin Jarvis
16. Daniel Guilarte
17. Logan Henderson
18. Eric Bitonti
19. Hendry Mendez
20. Yophery Rodriguez

[Matt Breen]

1. Jackson Chourio
2. Jeferson Quero
3. Sal Frelick
4. Tyler Black
5. Brock Wilken
6. Jacob Misiorowski
7. Eric Brown Jr
8. Cooper Pratt
9. Abner Uribe
10. Josh Knoth
11. Robert Gasser
12. Ethan Small
13. Mike Boeve
14. Freddy Zamora
15. Robert Moore
16. Carlos F Rodriguez
17. Eric Bitonti
18. Luis Lara
19. Daniel Guilarte
20. Justin Jarvis

[Mr Southpaw]

1. Jeferson Quero
2. Jackson Chourio
3. Sal Frelick
4. Jacob Misiorowski
5. Abner Uribe
6. Robert Gasser
7. Tyler Black
8. Justin Jarvis
9. Luis Lara
10. Brock Wilken
11. Eric Brown Jr
12. Mike Boeve
13. Robert Moore
14. Carlos F Rodriguez
15. Eric Bitonti
16. Ethan Small
17. Josh Knoth
18. Logan Henderson
19. Daniel Guilarte
20. Tyler Woessner

[brewerralph]

1. Jackson Chourio
2. Jeferson Quero
3. Jacob Misiorowski
4. Tyler Black
5. Sal Frelick
6. Carlos F Rodriguez
7. Abner Uribe
8. Robert Gasser
9. Eric Brown Jr
10. Justin Jarvis
11. Luis Lara
12. Matthew Wood
13. Freddy Zamora
14. Brock Wilken
15. Daniel Guilarte
16. Josh Knoth
17. Cooper Pratt
18. Logan Henderson
19. Juan Baez
20. Hendry Mendez

[jay87shot]

1. Jackson Chourio
2. Jeferson Quero
3. Jacob Misiorowski
4. Sal Frelick
5. Tyler Black
6. Brock Wilken
7. Luis Lara
8. Carlos F Rodriguez
9. Eric Brown Jr
10. Robert Gasser
11. Abner Uribe
12. Josh Knoth
13. Cooper Pratt
14. Eric Bitonti
15. Daniel Guilarte
16. Mike Boeve
17. Logan Henderson
18. Justin Jarvis
19. Luke Adams
20. Dylan O'Rae

I feel like this is the strongest our farm system has been in a really long time. There are easily 30 guys I could see in our top 20. 

[tbbrewers]

1. Jackson Chourio
2. Jeferson Quero
3. Jacob Misiorowski
4. Sal Frelick
5. Tyler Black
6. Robert Gasser
7. Brock Wilken
8. Cooper Pratt
9. Yophery Rodriguez
10. Carlos F Rodriguez
11. Luis Lara
12. Abner Uribe
13. Eric Brown Jr
14. Justin Jarvis
15. Daniel Guilarte
16. Luke Adams
17. Josh Knoth
18. Jhonny Severino
19. Mike Boeve
20. Eric Bitonti

[Spencer Michaelis]

1. Jackson Chourio
   I absolutely love Jeferson Quero and have been saying it for a couple years, but the upside for Chourio is still leaps and bounds above him. Chourio is on pace for a 20/40 season in AA as a 19 year old. I know some of the stats don't look great, but I'm expecting the true breakout to happen soon here. Especially now that the Southern League is back to the normal baseballs.
2. Jeferson Quero
   As I mentioned, I absolutely love Quero. Pretty much any time the last 10 years outside of the current time, he'd be my top prospect and it wouldn't be much of a debate.
3. Jacob Misiorowski
   Misiorowski passes Frelick for me in this update. I just think there's an insane upside with him. Like, best pitcher in baseball upside. The risk is still huge at this stage, so he isn't quite top 2 for me. I think the fastball, slider and curve can all be elite pitches.
4. Sal Frelick
   Frelick has struggled this year, there's no way around it. I still think there's a leadoff hitter here and I wonder if the thumb isn't still bothering him a bit. Last night (7/16) he had 4 hard hit balls, including 2 sweet spots, so hopefully that will be the start of a hot streak.
5. Tyler Black
   I have no clue how Black isn't in AAA yet. He is on pace for nearly a 20/80 season. The glove is still concerning and I think he most likely ends up at 1B still, but I'll say the defense is better than in the past and he seems to be a guy who works very hard to get better. I won't entirely rule out third or second working out, just for that reason.
6. Luis Lara
   A 129 wRC+ as an 18 year old, Lara is just a pure hitter. He plays a fantastic center field and has some raw power that you wouldn't expect from his frame. There's a ton of upside here.
7. Cooper Pratt
   Pratt has the highest ceiling of the Brewers picks in my opinion. Legit first round talent in the sixth round. I think he can stick at short and like many others, I see a lot of Gunnar Henderson in him.
8. Eric Brown Jr
   I still really strongly believe in EBJ. If he stays healthy, I think he's the starting SS once Willy is gone, or at least shortly after that. Staying healthy is going to be the most important thing. Outside of April, he was having a fantastic couple of months, until his latest freak injury.
9. Carlos F Rodriguez
   I really like Rodriguez. I'm not sure what else he needs to do to get national attention. It's a 4 pitch mix that all can play. Command can falter at times, but he has strikeout stuff and showed well in the WBC against a bunch of MLB hitters. I think he's in Milwaukee some time next season.
10. Josh Knoth
    Fastball up to 98 as a 17 year old, sitting mid-90's. 3000 RPM curve and slider combo. Just a really fun arm. Highest pitcher ceiling behind Misiorowski for sure.
11. Brock Wilken
    I've made my thoughts on Wilken pretty known. I think it ended up being a very solid pick once the rest of the draft played out. There is a Pete Alonso type bat in there as a semi-realistic outcome.
12. Robert Gasser
    He's ready for the majors. Not sure the Brewers have a clear opening for him any time soon, but he is ready to pitch MLB innings. He's been really good for a month and a half or so now.
13. Luke Adams
    Adams is one of my favorites. The swing is not pretty, but it gets the job done. Super advanced eye at the plate. Incredible athlete for his size. Can legitimately handle third base in my opinion. Needs to cut down the infield pop-ups a bit. If he turns those into regular fly balls or line drives, he's got a huge ceiling.
14. Mike Boeve
    One of my favorites in the draft. I think there's a real upside of a Tyler Black type hitter. You won't get the same SB production as with Black, but I think Boeve is much more likely to be able to handle third or second base defensively.
15. Eric Bitonti
    Absolutely huge power for a high schooler, did struggle with breaking balls a bit. Not in recognition, but just in squaring them up. Chased a surprisingly low amount in the summer circuit. Will move to third base. Could quickly move up my list if he shows an ability to handle spin.
16. Justin Jarvis
    Jarvis' test will come in Nashville as he gets used to the non-tacky ball and better competition. The fastball always had really good characteristics, so I don't think the tacky ball helped him as much as others. The velo jump was legit and the splitter is a great pitch. He's got the potential to be a major league starter.
17. Daniel Guilarte
    One of my favorite defensive players to watch. He can really pick it, has good range and a strong arm. It reminds me of Eduardo Garcia, but with a legitimate approach at the plate. He needs to start elevating more and preferably pulling the ball more, but if the bat is even average he will have a MLB career ahead of him.
18. Abner Uribe
    We got a small taste of what he has before the All Star break. It's a legit triple digit fastball and the slider is a really good pitch. Probably the best of his three, as he commands it much better and more regularly than his fastball/sinker.
19. Logan Henderson
    By far the best changeup in the system, it has some airbender qualities. Fastball plays well up and the slider gets really high spin numbers, though it looks to me like it could use some adjusting on it's axis. It seems like, at times, he gets around it too much and causes it to just spin but not get the movement you'd be hoping for.
20. Hendry Mendez
    If Mendez hits the ball in the air without losing his contact skills, he will shoot back up my rankings. When he hits the ball in the air and not on the infield dirt, it very often turns into extra base hits. Solid defender as well. The batted ball profile just really needs to improve.

Yophery Rodriguez would be 21. I rarely put DSL players that high, but I think they may have something here. He may end up following the Lara/Chourio route and skipping the ACL next year for Carolina.

Juan Baez probably would sneak in pre-draft, but got bumped by the 5 draftees. The contact skills are ridiculous. Hoping he can learn to draw a few more walks as he moves through the system.

Patricio Aquino also may have made my list before the draft guys got added. He's got a legit starters repertoire and is showing really well in Carolina having only turned 20 a couple months ago.

[BrewCrewBlueDevil]

1. Jackson Chourio
2. Jeferson Quero
3. Sal Frelick
4. Jacob Misiorowski
5. Abner Uribe
6. Tyler Black
7. Eric Brown Jr
8. Brock Wilken
9. Eric Bitonti
10. Mike Boeve
11. Carlos F Rodriguez
12. Robert Gasser
13. Robert Moore
14. Luis Lara
15. Hedbert Perez
16. Hendry Mendez
17. Daniel Guilarte
18. Josh Knoth
19. Cooper Pratt
20. Cam Devanney

[ctmyers]

1. Jackson Chourio
2. Jacob Misiorowski
3. Jeferson Quero
4. Tyler Black
5. Sal Frelick
6. Abner Uribe
7. Carlos F Rodriguez
8. Robert Gasser
9. Brock Wilken
10. Luis Lara
11. Luke Adams
12. Eric Brown Jr
13. Josh Knoth
14. Cooper Pratt
15. Eric Bitonti
16. Mike Boeve
17. Logan Henderson
18. Quinton Low
19. Freddy Zamora
20. Yophery Rodriguez

[Ro Mueller]

1. Jackson Chourio
2. Jeferson Quero
3. Abner Uribe
4. Sal Frelick
5. Jacob Misiorowski
6. Tyler Black
7. Robert Gasser
8. Carlos F Rodriguez
9. Daniel Guilarte
10. Luis Lara
11. Hendry Mendez
12. Luke Adams
13. Justin Jarvis
14. Patricio Aquino
15. Logan Henderson
16. Brock Wilken
17. Yophery Rodriguez
18. Juan Baez
19. Freddy Zamora
20. Eric Brown Jr

[sveumrules]

1. Jackson Chourio
2. Jacob Misiorowski
3. Jeferson Quero
4. Tyler Black
5. Sal Frelick
6. Robert Gasser
7. Carlos F Rodriguez
8. Abner Uribe
9. Luis Lara
10. Brock Wilken
11. Eric Brown Jr
12. Daniel Guilarte
13. Yophery Rodriguez
14. Josh Knoth
15. Justin Jarvis
16. Logan Henderson
17. Freddy Zamora
18. Luke Adams
19. Dylan O'Rae
20. Filippo Di Turi

[BrewersRice]

1. Jackson Chourio
2. Jeferson Quero
3. Jacob Misiorowski
   Could easily be number 2, but will need to see more longer starts and better control.
4. Sal Frelick
   I just dont feel his ceiling is as high as the other 3.
5. Tyler Black
   Has had a great year, but still feel I need to see more to know this breakout is real. Has position flexibility, but not super at any position.
6. Brock Wilken
   Excited that the brewers got some power in their system.
7. Carlos F Rodriguez
8. Josh Knoth
9. Abner Uribe
10. Eric Brown Jr
11. Mike Boeve
12. Logan Henderson
13. Daniel Guilarte
14. Luis Lara
15. Juan Baez
16. Cooper Pratt
17. Dylan O'Rae
18. Quinton Low
19. Eric Bitonti
20. Robert Moore

System is looking better than it has for a while, but shallow in TOR type starters.  I feel arguments could be made at the bottom end for several names out there and there is still a lot of upside potential that we have not seen verse quality competition. 

[YelichPosse]

1. Jackson Chourio
2. Tyler Black
3. Jacob Misiorowski
4. Jeferson Quero
5. Brock Wilken
6. Mike Boeve
7. Josh Knoth
8. Sal Frelick
9. Eric Bitonti
10. Cooper Pratt
11. Eric Brown Jr
12. Robert Gasser
13. Robert Moore
14. Abner Uribe
15. Carlos F Rodriguez
16. Ethan Small
17. Luis Lara
18. Hendry Mendez
19. Daniel Guilarte
20. Felix Valerio

[CheezWizHed]

2 hours ago, Brock Beauchamp said:

Whoo, the final step of this cool new tool is now on display! Thank you all for your contributions and feel free to peruse the votes and tell everyone else how wrong they are about everything!

Ranked Prospects

• Jackson Chourio
• Jeferson Quero
• Jacob Misiorowski
• Sal Frelick
• Tyler Black
• Robert Gasser
• Brock Wilken
• Abner Uribe
• Carlos F Rodriguez
• Luis Lara
• Eric Brown Jr
• Cooper Pratt
• Josh Knoth
• Eric Bitonti
• Mike Boeve
• Robert Moore
• Daniel Guilarte
• Luke Adams
• Justin Jarvis
• Yophery Rodriguez

@Brock Beauchamp So, I'm assuming this is the consolidated rating?  Any way to add a weighting score to each player? It would be nice to see how tightly grouped they were.

[Brock Beauchamp]

1 minute ago, CheezWizHed said:

@Brock Beauchamp So, I'm assuming this is the consolidated rating?  Any way to add a weighting score to each player? It would be nice to see how tightly grouped they were.

Here are the point totals:

Jackson Chourio Score: 835

Jeferson Quero Score: 773

Jacob Misiorowski Score: 744

Sal Frelick Score: 706

Tyler Black Score: 677

Robert Gasser Score: 526

Brock Wilken Score: 497

Abner Uribe Score: 478

Carlos F Rodriguez Score: 453

Luis Lara Score: 422

Eric Brown Jr Score: 391

Cooper Pratt Score: 360

Josh Knoth Score: 350

Eric Bitonti Score: 200

Mike Boeve Score: 194

Robert Moore Score: 173

Daniel Guilarte Score: 153

Luke Adams Score: 134

Justin Jarvis Score: 132

Yophery Rodriguez Score: 113

[sveumrules]

So Tiers Something Like This...

01 Jackson Chourio Score: 835

02 Jeferson Quero Score: 773
03 Jacob Misiorowski Score: 744

04 Sal Frelick Score: 706
05 Tyler Black Score: 677

06 Robert Gasser Score: 526
07 Brock Wilken Score: 497
08 Abner Uribe Score: 478
09 Carlos F Rodriguez Score: 453

10 Luis Lara Score: 422
11 Eric Brown Jr Score: 391
12 Cooper Pratt Score: 360
13 Josh Knoth Score: 350

14 Eric Bitonti Score: 200
15 Mike Boeve Score: 194
16 Robert Moore Score: 173
17 Daniel Guilarte Score: 153
18 Luke Adams Score: 134
19 Justin Jarvis Score: 132
20 Yophery Rodriguez Score: 113

[Brock Beauchamp]

14 minutes ago, sveumrules said:

So Tiers Something Like This...

01 Jackson Chourio Score: 835

02 Jeferson Quero Score: 773
03 Jacob Misiorowski Score: 744

04 Sal Frelick Score: 706
05 Tyler Black Score: 677

06 Robert Gasser Score: 526
07 Brock Wilken Score: 497
08 Abner Uribe Score: 478
09 Carlos F Rodriguez Score: 453

10 Luis Lara Score: 422
11 Eric Brown Jr Score: 391
12 Cooper Pratt Score: 360
13 Josh Knoth Score: 350

14 Eric Bitonti Score: 200
15 Mike Boeve Score: 194
16 Robert Moore Score: 173
17 Daniel Guilarte Score: 153
18 Luke Adams Score: 134
19 Justin Jarvis Score: 132
20 Yophery Rodriguez Score: 113

Yeah, I think that's about right.

Chourio - gold star, blue chip, all that

Quero, Misiorowski - ascendant, could be great

Black, Frelick - good solid prospects, could go either way

A bunch of guys

[wiguy94]

Figured I would post here. Gasser just made Baseball America’s top 100 with Elly De La Cruz graduating. 

 

[CheeseheadInQC]

I think Adams might be a bit underrated. His stats would fit right in with the non-Holliday first round prep hitters from last draft.

[sveumrules]

2 hours ago, CheeseheadInQC said:

I think Adams might be a bit underrated. His stats would fit right in with the non-Holliday first round prep hitters from last draft.

Looks like @Jim French Stepstool and @Playing Catch joined you putting him at the end of the top ten and there were a couple elevens too.

The plate discipline (63 BB vs 71 K in 322 career PA) and wheels (33 SB vs 8 CS career) are shades of Tyler Black in a larger body.

Obviously still young for his league and the 142 wRC+ is excellent, but the thing holding him back for me personally are the inconsistent batted ball results this year.

I ended up putting him at #18, but I’ve got everyone from #12 onward in pretty much the same tier so I can see the case for having him higher.